Arriving in London (and UK)

[Tom Crispin]

On 25 Mar 2006 18:31:12 GMT, Ian Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Mar, Elisa Francesca Roselli <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Unlike in Britain, where traffic regulations oblige cars to stop at
>> pedestrian crossings if there is a pedestrian waiting,
>
>I believe you are wrong. Can you cite this supposed regulation?

Not quite a regulation to stop for pedestrians waiting. The wording
suggests pedestrian priority.

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm

171: Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

look out for people waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop
to let them cross
you MUST give way when someone has moved onto a crossing
allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
do not wave people across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle
is approaching
be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing.
Law ZPPPCR reg 25

 

[Elisa Francesca Roselli]

Ian Smith wrote:

> I believe you are wrong. Can you cite this supposed regulation?

OK, so I'm wrong. In my experience, however, I have had cars courteously
stopping for me as I waited at crossings in Cambridge (where I lived 13
years), whereas in France I generally have to get into the middle of the
crossing and frantically wave my hands to make them understand that I
would LIKE by their gracious leave to reach the other side alive. They
still think it appropriate to honk me out of their way.

EFR
Ile de France

 

[Ian Smith]

On Sat, 25 Mar, Tom Crispin <> wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2006 18:31:12 GMT, Ian Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 25 Mar, Elisa Francesca Roselli <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Unlike in Britain, where traffic regulations oblige cars to stop at
> >> pedestrian crossings if there is a pedestrian waiting,
> >
> >I believe you are wrong. Can you cite this supposed regulation?
>
> Not quite a regulation to stop for pedestrians waiting. The wording
> suggests pedestrian priority.
>
> http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm

The fact that the highway code suggests something does not mean there
is a traffic regulation requiring it.

> 171: Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing look out
> for people waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let
> them cross
> you MUST give way when someone has moved onto a crossing

Exactly - the legal requirement (the only 'MUST') is if the pedestrian
is already on the crossing.

regards, Ian SMith
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[Tom Crispin]

On 25 Mar 2006 19:18:18 GMT, Ian Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Mar, Tom Crispin <> wrote:
>> On 25 Mar 2006 18:31:12 GMT, Ian Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 25 Mar, Elisa Francesca Roselli <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Unlike in Britain, where traffic regulations oblige cars to stop at
>> >> pedestrian crossings if there is a pedestrian waiting,
>> >
>> >I believe you are wrong. Can you cite this supposed regulation?
>>
>> Not quite a regulation to stop for pedestrians waiting. The wording
>> suggests pedestrian priority.
>>
>> http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/18.htm
>
>The fact that the highway code suggests something does not mean there
>is a traffic regulation requiring it.
>
>> 171: Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing look out
>> for people waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let
>> them cross
>> you MUST give way when someone has moved onto a crossing
>
>Exactly - the legal requirement (the only 'MUST') is if the pedestrian
>is already on the crossing.

I think we are in full agreement.