On Jun 6, 8:42 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:52161a0d-c3c7-4669-8423-18aadad43770@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 5, 11:57 am, hizark21 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > Yes, but Astana has gotten rid of all the old management and most of
> > > 07's riders. Like I said before the ASO should have told Astana that
> > > they have to resolve certain issues if they want to enter to the
>
> > They have. They told them "Prove it by staying clean for a year."
>
> Think about that statement Bill. Firstly the team has very little control
> over what riders do and since riders become millionaires if they succeed
> they can afford to hire the best and to take chances. The past problems were
> the lower tier riders were using lower tier doctors who didn't know how to
> design the doping regime to clear the testings.
>
> Now the testing protocols are getting so sensitive that most doping won't
> work. That won't stop doping of course but it can limit it which is the best
> we can hope to do.
I'm not willing to give the teams a free pass. There's way too much
evidence that they've known what was going on, or organized it, for
way too many of them.
Now we are back to the quality of the dopingbusts/testing. I was
going to say that the teams need to be allowed/encouraged to recover
money for the damage done, from the rider, for when a rider gets
busted, but with the way Wada, and the UCI hacve conducted themselves
in the past this is a problem too. When the folks running the system
are at least as questionable as the criminals, or supposed criminals,
what the hell do you do.
In a perfect world they'd dump most of the leadership, clean up the
system, open up the system, and start over, but that ain't gonna
happen anytime soon.
In a lot of ways this is like the NBA defending Tim Donaghy, before
he started talking his head off. They said "there's NO way he could
have affected any games because we review all the ref's performances,
in every game, and he's one of our very best!". Well, he says he was
dirty, and so are others, but noone is allowed to see what the system
is, or how it works, and anyone questioning the mighty leadership/
system is given draconian penalties.
They're dirty as ****, but rather than clean the mess up, and give up
power, they'll kill the game, and take as many people down as possible
before going.
When everyone is shoveling **** around you, you're gonna stink too,
and that's unfortunate for those who are clean.
Bill C
