ASO still refusing to admit Astana in TDF



Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Your inability to admit that you're wrong, even when it's in black and
> white


Doesn't that ring a bell ?
 
Donald Munro wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> Your inability to admit that you're wrong, even when it's in black and
>> white

>
> Doesn't that ring a bell ?
>


I never should of open sourced him.

Bob Schwartz
 
MagillaGorilla wrote:
> Ever see an official's communique from an NRC race? They cite
> violations of USCF rules and level fines accordingly.


Where do they get the schedule of fines? It's in the
rulebook, you could check if you wanted.

Bob Schwartz
 
Off The Back wrote:
> Re this NRC-vs-UCI discussion: I know that USA Cycling has changed a
> bunch of USCF rules to align better with UCI rules (e.g., TT bikes must
> conform to UCI rules), but that doesn't mean an NRC race follows *all*
> UCI rules. I'm pretty sure you could find something in the UCI rulebook
> that is not enforced by your local NRC crit, for example, or even Nature
> Valley GP (which is underway as I type this). Besides, they don't let
> hacks like me ride in a UCI event but I can ride an NRC race.
>
> I think Magilla is technically correct. Bob is playing a semantics game,
> teasing a gorrila in his cage, and I for one appreciate it!


The statement was made that NRC races do not follow UCI
rules. They do. No, not all of them. But there are numerous
references to UCI rules.

For example, one of the guys working the NVGP has a UCI
bike jig, used to quickly and easily tell if a bike conforms
to the UCI bike regs, as specified in the USCF rulebook.

Bob Schwartz
 
Bob Schwartz wrote:

> Off The Back wrote:
>
>> Re this NRC-vs-UCI discussion: I know that USA Cycling has changed a
>> bunch of USCF rules to align better with UCI rules (e.g., TT bikes
>> must conform to UCI rules), but that doesn't mean an NRC race follows
>> *all* UCI rules. I'm pretty sure you could find something in the UCI
>> rulebook that is not enforced by your local NRC crit, for example, or
>> even Nature Valley GP (which is underway as I type this). Besides,
>> they don't let hacks like me ride in a UCI event but I can ride an NRC
>> race.
>>
>> I think Magilla is technically correct. Bob is playing a semantics
>> game, teasing a gorrila in his cage, and I for one appreciate it!

>
>
> The statement was made that NRC races do not follow UCI
> rules. They do. No, not all of them. But there are numerous
> references to UCI rules.
>
> For example, one of the guys working the NVGP has a UCI
> bike jig, used to quickly and easily tell if a bike conforms
> to the UCI bike regs, as specified in the USCF rulebook.
>
> Bob Schwartz



Hey asshat,

The NRC rule for bikes is a USCF rule that simply says that bike
standards will conform to the UCI definition. That's still a USCF rule.

All NRC races are run under USCF rules. The fact that a very small
minority of those rules MIGHT adopt a UCI definition does not make it a
UCI rule.

Nor does it mean that NRC races are run under UCI rules, as you falsely
claimed.

Thanks,


Magilla
 

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