Aspartame & Diabetes



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Wwll, they al;ways start with a shill like him THEn an
asshole like you says "OHH Momma Betty is TRUE'

mellstrr wrote:

> "Ted Rosenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>Look shithead You and Betty the fraud are not welcome here
>>
>>and, for anyone who doesn't already know. Betty is NOT a
>>doctor, merely a pitiful fraud who fillds thebandwith with
>>attacks on artificial sweetners, ALL phony, not a SIMGLE
>>one true
>
>
> I'm sure you can give us specific examples of how the
> "attacks" she makes aren't true.
>
> Newsflash: Bashing the messenger doesn't kill the message.
> Or haven't you been paying attention lately?
>
> mellstrr
>
>
>
>>(The following is a note from Betty to Fred Keville...)
>
>
> Dear Fred,
>
> This is an incredible letter and you have said many things
> I have said for years. For instance, I truly believe no
> one should get elected in this country for anything unless
> they are willing to help remove this deadly chemical
> poison from the market. It comes under the Domestic
> Genocide Law, Title 18, Chapter 50A, Sec 1091-3
>
> This law has no statute of limitations: Whoever, whether
> in time of peace or time of war, with specific intent to
> destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a national,
> ethnic, racial or religious groups as such --
>
> (1) Kills members of that group
> (2) Causes serious bodily injury to members of that group
> (3) Causes the permanent impairment of the mental
> faculties of members of the group through drugs,
> torture or similar techniques
> (4) Subjects the group to conditions of life that are
> intended to cause the physical destruction of the
> group in whole or in part
> (5) Impose measures intended to prevent births within the
> groups..
>
> Shall be punished as provided in subsection B (B says if
> death results: Death or life imprisonment and a fine of
> not more than $1,000,000).
>
> All five rules have been smashed by the
> aspartame/NutraSweet industry. we, the population of the
> United States are the GROUP. The sellers of aspartame
> poisoned foods and drinks knew in advance the havoc it
> would wreck on our nation's health. That knowledge
> establishes intention. Test SC 18862, submitted for
> aspartame approval involved feeding aspartame to 7 infant
> monkeys. One died; 5 had grand mal seizures, an 86%
> casualty rate, nevertheless FDA approved the poison so is
> equably culpable with the manufacturers. More than 75% of
> all complaints on food additives are on aspartame which
> FDA tallied into a list of 10,000 complaints of 92
> symptoms including death. You will note on the secret
> trade information on www.dorway.com in the last paragraph
> that Searle said they had to consider almost complete
> conversion of DKP (a brain tumor agent) and if they told
> the FDA they wouldn't get it approved. So they knew they
> were going to give the population brain tumors and they
> didn't care. The rest of the document submitted in
> Congress reads like psychomanipulation to get aspartame
> approved. It is hideous.
>
> Aspartame is an endocrine disrupting drug, stimulates
> prolactin and causes infertility in the woman. A recent
> study in Japan wrote of infertility in the man. If a woman
> gets off aspartame and gets pregnant aspartame is an
> abortifacient and some tell of as many as 8 miscarriages.
> Aspartame is also a teratogen and causes birth defects and
> mental retardation. Fulfills rule five, destruction of our
> unborn and living children.
>
> Note #3, mental impairment: Aspartame depletes serotonin
> from which victims suffer manic depression,
> hallucinations, paranoia, rage, suicidal tendencies,
> anxiety and panic. Surgeon General Satcher said 22% of the
> population now suffer mental problems. Aspartame is
> involved.
>
> For a tome of medical horrors triggered by aspartame all
> one has to do is read the medical text on the global
> plague of aspartame disease by diabetic specialist, H. J.
> Roberts, M.D. - Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic,
> www.sunsentpress.com or 1 800 827 7991. It covers all
> five rules.
>
> This law makes all producers and marketers of aspartame
> criminals. Will the Justice Department protect us or are
> they all waiting for jobs in the aspartame industry like
> Sam Skinner and William Conlon, who were appointed to
> prosecute Searle and then switched sides hiring on with
> the defense team?
>
> I have filed a Citizens Petition with the FDA for ban
> based on the fact we have their government documents and
> they lie to the public. The law requires the FDA to answer
> this in 180 days. It will soon be 2 years and they refuse
> with the excuse: "We have competing priorities".
> Translation: "We are guilty as charged and therefore we
> cannot answer the petition for ban or we would have to
> recall aspartame. We can't do that because we are the
> handmaiden of the pharmaceutical and chemical industry and
> our loyalty is not to the public but to industry. We can
> get away with this because we are the FDA and historically
> are known for serving above the law."
>
> There was a time the FDA were heros. They refused to
> approve aspartame for 16 years even though the U.S.
> Prosecutors switched sides and the statute of limitations
> expired. Today they have rebirthed the toxin with Neotame
> which voids the statute of limitations with an informant.
> U.S. Attorneys can then be sent in. At the time of
> approval of aspartame Don Rumsfeld, now Secretary of
> Transportation, was CEO of Searle. When the FDA refused to
> approve aspartame he said he would call in his markers and
> get it approved anyway. So he did not care whether it was
> safe or not or what it would do to the population. He was
> on President Reagan's transition team and the day after he
> took office he appointed an FDA Commissioner who would
> approve aspartame, Arthur Hull Hayes. Even then the FDA
> set up a Board of Inquiry of the finest scientists they
> had and said aspartame had not been proven safe and caused
> brain tumors and the petition for approval was revoked.
> Hayes over-ruled the Board of Inquiry and went to work for
> the PR Agency of the manufacturer and has refused to talk
> to the press ever since. He was paid $1000.00 a day.
>
> Now let's discuss the group being destroyed called
> diabetics. Diabetic specialist H. J. Roberts, M.D. says
> aspartame can precipitate diabetes, simulates and
> aggravates diabetic retinopathy and neuropathy, and
> destroys the optic nerve. It keeps blood sugar out of
> control and can cause diabetics to go into convulsions. It
> also interacts with insulin. All of this is in the medical
> text, and Dr. Roberts has many books and tapes on
> aspartame. It is my opinion this is why there is an
> epidemic of diabetes. The professional organizations like
> the American Diabetes Association are funded by the
> manufacturer and push the propaganda of the manufacturer.
> They also defend them. So what we have is those
> responsible to solve the problem are the problem.
>
> The reason aspartame causes joint pain is it hardens the
> synovial fluids. This was proven on studies in South
> America by Searle. They used people in poor villages as
> guinea pigs and gave them things like brain tumors and
> seizures. The studies also showed aspartame destroys the
> brain and central nervous system. They didn't publish
> these studies and the affidavit of the translator is on
> www.dorway.com Headache is number one on the FDA list of
> 92 symptoms. And yes, aspartame has an affect on the skin.
>
> As to weight, aspartame is not a diet product. If you want
> to get fat NutraSweet is where it's at. Read the protest
> of the National Soft Drink Association on web, at the
> bottom and you'll see Dr. Wurtman's affidavit admitting
> aspartame makes you crave carbohydrates so you gain
> weight. The Trocho study shows the formaldehyde converted
> from the methanol or wood alcohol accumulates in the cells
> and damages DNA with most toxicity in the liver but
> substantial amounts in the brain, retina, adipose tissue
> (fat cells) and kidneys. So when you see somebody with
> heavy hips and thighs it may be an aspartame with all that
> formaldehyde in the fat cells. When the liver is this
> toxic it is even hard to lose weight. And when you damage
> DNA you're talking about survival of the human race.
>
> Tinnitus or ringing in the ears is another big time
> symptom of aspartame. The components of aspartame and
> their multiple breakdown products is potentially toxic to
> the brain and inner ear. These organs are highly
> vulnerable to metabolic disturbances and neurotoxins
> because of their unique metabolic requirements. At the
> time Dr. Roberts wrote a position paper on aspartame and
> ear and equilibrium problems some years ago he said the
> American Tinnitus Association found the cause of tinnitus
> in 18,000 suffers was unknown in one-third.
>
> As to your eyes, the wood alcohol or methanol converts to
> formaldehyde and formic acid in the retina and destroys
> the optic nerve. The late
> Dr. Morgan Raiford, an ophthalmologist and "the specialist
> in methanol toxicity in the US" said in one of his
> papers that if vision is in the "wet stage" it will
> improve when you get off this toxin. Depression and
> suicidal tendencies are triggered by depletion in
> serotonin.
>
> As to lack of concentration, yes aspartame triggers this
> big time and memory loss is # 9 on the FDA list because
> its so prevalent. Your statements remind me of a victim
> who wrote for one of our Governors here in Georgia. He
> started using aspartame and not only could he not write
> anymore but his wife had to introduce him to his
> relatives. Aspartame is escalating Alzheimers and Dr.
> Roberts has also written Defense Against Alzheimers
> Disease.
>
> About doctors, you are correct again, many don't have a
> clue about aspartame. That's why the experts have written
> medical texts on the subject to educate them and the
> public. Another one is Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills
> by neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D.
> www.russellblaylockmd.com And he also wrote Health &
> Nutrition Secrets To Save Your Life. From this book you
> will find out what you have to avoid the rest of your life
> because aspartame is a chemical hypersensitization agent.
> It has an additive and synergistic effect with MSG, and it
> interacts with fluoride, and vaccines and other toxins. It
> will tell you how to regain your health and heal your
> damaged immune system. Dr. Blaylock has also written a
> paper on what to do if you have used aspartame. Go to
> www.wnho.net and click on registry of articles.
>
> Understand the reason doctors don't have a clue is because
> the manufacturers of aspartame (Searle sold to Monsanto
> and Monsanto sold to Ajinomoto, Childs in Boston, Merisant
> and Michael Dell's Investment
> Co ) as well as the FDA and professional organizations
> funded by the manufacturers lie to consumers and
> physicians tying their hands. How they can diagnose
> all these horrible diseases aspartame triggers if
> they don't know to correlate them with the toxin? Nor
> do they know that aspartame interacts with most drugs
> used to treat the problems it causes, as outlined in
> Dr. Roberts medical text. However, Dr. Roberts does
> write about a precedent set where a physician must be
> responsible to new research and findings. He can't
> simply ignore documentation given and allow patients
> to die. And that is what is going on now because many
> physicians are using the toxin themselves. It is the
> chronic methanol toxicity that affects the dopamine
> system of the brain and causes the addiction.
> Methanol is classified as a narcotic. And consider
> our children are using this deadly poison. Any doctor
> who doesn't listen when told and not willing to
> research the issue should be reported because he is
> going to bury a lot of his patients. In fact, what
> you can do is put an ad in your paper for all your
> doctor's patients to contact you. That might wake him
> up. And being a deputy sheriff I don't think you
> would have any qualms!
>
> Yes, I remember the 60's. My saying is similar - "One
> thing they can't fight is consumer power in action".
> Mission Possible International is a worldwide, unpaid
> volunteer force in 50 states and over 22 countries of
> the world warning all consumers off NutraSweet. I'm
> sorry it took 3 years for you to find us. We do give out
> flyers, and do all kinds of things to get the word to
> the public. I wish we could afford to put billboards
> across the nation.
>
> You might be interested to know a bill was written to
> outlaw aspartame in New Mexico. It didn't all pass but
> part of it did, to set up a task force. And the
> legislation is available for all states to use. If you
> knew the history of aspartame you would be shocked at how
> many have changed sides, and even been threatened against
> doing studies. Even research funds have been rejected
> until doctors and scientists agreed to comply. You should
> read the book by Cynthia Crossen: The Tainted Truth: The
> Manipulation of Fact. It says it all. And read the United
> Press International 8 month investigation of aspartame on
> www.dorway.com There have been three congressional
> hearings with nothing being done because people like
> Senator Orrin Hatch was paid by Monsanto. But if it hadn't
> been for a lot of the experts, physicians and scientists,
> who have written the reports (and some books) that tell
> the facts millions would not know about aspartame. They
> have written the papers you find on these web sites,
> www.dorway.com and www.wnho.net and testified before
> Congress. These are the ones who wouldn't sell out. There
> are a lot of courageous physicians and scientists. We are
> the messengers who take their information to the public.
>
> Many things you say I have said in similar words including
> "even giants can fall", and yes it will take some legal
> eagles. And yes, you were poisoned by your own country
> because the FDA doesn't have the courage or integrity to
> take aspartame off the market and have given their loyalty
> to the monsters who have caused what may become one of the
> largest plagues in world history.
>
> As a retired deputy sheriff, you should also know how
> aspartame affects crime. And, I've heard Dr. Russell
> Blaylock and Dr. H. J. Roberts both say a lot of people
> in mental hospitals today are simply aspartame victims.
> One of the worst horrors aspartame causes is damage to
> the cardiac conduction system causing sudden death. It
> triggers an irregular heart rhythm and interacts with
> all cardiac medication. A body builder and athlete who
> played basketball four times a week drank 10 diet drinks
> a day and other aspartame products. When he died the
> police saw the methanol poisoning on the autopsy and
> thought his wife poisoned him even though she passed
> their lie detector test. And she was the one who called
> the police not knowing how he got methanol poisoning.
> Ever heard of a murderer calling the police to
> investigate the murder? Diane Fleming was sentenced to
> 50 years in prison in Troy, Virginia. And what do they
> use in prisons instead of sugar? Aspartame. In another
> case a man had an aspartame black out, and they are very
> common. His car went six blocks and killed 3 people and
> he served 5 years in prison. Consider fire fighters who
> give dopamine in the field. Aspartame changes the
> dopamine in the brain. Consider Aviation. Five pilots on
> American who were heavy users have died, one in flight
> drinking a diet drink. The other pilot had to land the
> plane. Aviation is no longer safe.
>
> Because of the obesity issue some want the pop machines
> out of school, although they think its sugar instead of
> the real cause, pop sweetened with aspartame. So now
> American Water Star wants to fill the schools with water
> flavored with aspartame. Dr. Baret in the Dominican
> Republic decided to change the diet of 360 children from
> milk to aspartame juice. Almost all the children became
> restless, losing their concentration, showing anxiety,
> etc. Because it was all of them Dr. Baret knew it had to
> be the addition of aspartame. When he removed the
> aspartame laced juice all the children were back to normal
> in 4 days. Aspartame also reduces IQ and triggers such
> things as ADD, ADHD, Turettes, autism, etc. A study in
> Norway a few years ago showed that aspartame destroys the
> brain, especially in the area of learning.
>
> You can go to www.greatfallspro.com , Mission Possible
> Maine, and can get a CD for about $5.00 of Dr. John
> Olney's testimony to the Board of Inquiry of the FDA
> telling what would happen to the brains of our kids if
> aspartame is approved. He is one of the most renowned
> neuroscientists on the planet today, and founded the field
> of neuroscience called excitotoxicity. Dr. Blaylock wrote
> the book on it. The aspartic acid in aspartame is an
> excitotoxin, product that literally stimulates the neurons
> of the brain to death causing brain damage. The FDA did
> agree with him and attempted to revoke the petition for
> approval until Arthur Hull Hayes over-ruled it. Consider
> the epidemic of ADD and ADHD has only been since aspartame
> has been on the market, and that goes for the epidemic of
> obesity as well. Would you believe they are trying to get
> a bill passed so you can't sue food manufacturers over
> obesity? Perhaps the thieves would like to get legislation
> passed that would prevent thieves from being prosecuted
> for thief. Makes about as much sense!
>
> Also, this CD has on it the entire Board of Inquiry report
> saying to revoke the petition for approval as well as the
> l985 congressional hearing.
>
> The Idaho Observer (www.idaho-observer.com) went to press
> today with an update on the Fleming story. They are going
> to publish a 24 page booklet people can give out next week
> on aspartame, The Artificially Sweetened Times. It will
> sell for probably $35.00 for about 100 of them postpaid.
> That will definitely help get the word out. And you can
> get them in large quantity at reduced rates.
>
> Also a movie has been made about aspartame which also has
> Diane Fleming in it, Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World. You
> can preorder it from [email protected] It
> will make believers out of a lot of people. I think its
> $24.98. Remember I told you aspartame causes methanol
> toxicity. The producer who used a lot of aspartame also
> gained a lot of weight and then was diagnosed with MS at
> the Mayo Clinic and was in a wheelchair. The lesion was
> the largest ever diagnosed at Mayo in an MS victim. Cori
> like you got on www.dorway.com and got off aspartame and
> walked out of her wheelchair. The lesion has now all but
> disappeared off this toxin. She made this movie to get the
> world out. MS is epidemic because of aspartame disease
> which mimics
> it.
>
> Don't mail your sugar free drinks back where they came
> from. Take them to the store and ask for your money back.
> It makes a statement, and if they are opened they can't
> resell. Take one of our warning flyers from www.dorway.com
> and tell them not to sell poison to the public.
>
> We can publish your case history with your permission as a
> warning to others. This too will help get the word out.
> And you can write Letters to the Editor, give your
> testimony by radio and even cut and paste it to web pages
> having to do with diabetes. I would also put it on the
> diabetic newsgroup. Keep in mind its one of the most
> hostile on the Internet with people from the manufacturer,
> the dietitians who are their media flacks, those from
> front groups, etc. But as a retired deputy sheriff I think
> you can handle yourself very well. There are many things
> you can do to help. Also fill out the Medwatch form to the
> FDA which you can click on to from Dorway. It will put it
> on the record even though the FDA ignores anything that
> has to do with aspartame.
>
> As a diabetic you can use Stevia which is an herb used in
> Brazil for thousands of years as a sweetener , especially
> diabetics because it is known to help in the metabolism of
> sugar. It's so healthful it was outlawed in Europe, so
> aspartame could be pushed. I lectured in England and was
> actually locked up in immigration for 3 1/2 hours with
> questions like: "If we let you in England how many people
> will find out about the dangers of aspartame?" The
> aspartame industry can really be annoying at times. Be
> sure to read my letter to Ajinomoto. I also gave all the
> damning government documents and medical reports to the
> European Union who left them out of their report, also
> showing their loyalty to industry.
>
> As long as this note is, it only tells you a small amount
> about aspartame. Be sure to read all the new press
> releases on www.wnho.net, just click on aspartame. If you
> would like me to add your name to the Mission Possible
> list so you can read new news and case histories let me
> know, its one way. Or you can click on to the support
> groups from DORWay.
>
> I'm so happy to meet you Fred. I'll send a copy of this
> note to the FDA. I just told them the other day I consider
> them an abomination before God and man for allowing the
> marketing of this deadly neurotoxic drug for human
> consumption and refusing to recall it even though they
> have full knowledge of its toxicity. After all, they were
> the ones who wanted the manufacturer indicted under Title
> 18, Section 1001.
>
> All my best, Betty
> Dr. Betty Martini Founder, Mission Possible International
> 9270 River Club Parkway, Duluth, Georgia 30097 770 242-
> 2599 www.dorway.com and www.wnho.net
>
> At 02:10 PM 3/9/2004, Fred Keville wrote:
>
> Hello, My name is Fred Keville. I am a 62 year old
> caucasion male who retired as a deputy sheriff in 1997 and
> who became a metal artist. Every thing in my life was
> going very well health wise until about three years ago
> when my personal physician diagnosed me with Diabetes.
> From day one he advised me to use diet foods and drinks
> such as "diet cokes and others" as I would have to stay
> away from the consumption of regular sugar. I didnt much
> like the taste of diet drinks or diet foods but he scared
> me enough about my diebetes condition that I switched to
> only diet foods. I began my diabetes life with oral
> medications of Glucaphage and Avandia. A couple of years
> later I had continued to gain weight and I was falling
> apart. I had occassional headaches that I couldnt explain
> as I never had them before. All of my joints ached
> constantly especially my knees and hands. I thought I had
> arthuritis and the diabetes was taking hold of my health
> in a very negative way.
>
> Early on I started with a condition under both arms and in
> the groin that I considered to be "Jock itch". I started
> using Cortisone 10 cremes and if I used that at least
> every other day the condition could be controlled and if
> not, the sores were very raw and bloody and boy did it
> burn. I continued to use the cortisone until recently.
> Also, about that time, I developed a thick scaling in the
> scalp and around the ears that I thought might just be
> exzema or worse and I used head and shoulders shampoo but
> it didnt control it. My lower legs and feet were swelling
> and I could no longer wear my favorite cow boy boots and
> most of the time I had to wear soft slippers.
>
> Traveling became almost impossible. Besides all of these
> problems I had frequent urination problems and rarely got
> more than two hours of sleep at a time. I was becoming
> more and more irritable around my wife. My Doctor during
> this period of time was totally exasperated with me as I
> couldnt control my blood sugar levels and I continued to
> gain weight and by this time I was up to 320 pounds.
>
> About a year ago, my Doctor put my on insulin in an effort
> to control the blood sugar levels. He started me out on
> low doses at first but with 3 months I was up to using 65
> units of 70/30 humilin in the AM and 60 units in the PM.
> Sometimes I would test in the morning and I would be 105
> and sometimes I would be 205. I was not eating very much
> at all but I could never convince him of that.
>
> By this time I was developing so many physical problems
> that I couldnt keep track of them all. In the morning for
> the first few minutes my vision was blurry as if I had a
> film coating over my eyes but then it would gradually
> disappear. I started having ringing or hissing in my ears
> that wouldn't go away. Every morning, I would run hot
> water over my hands so that I could close them. My knuckes
> were swollen and again I blamed it on arthuritis. I blamed
> every thing on my age and diabetes. If I got down on my
> hands and knees to do something I was unable to get back
> up without crawling over to the wall or some furniture.
>
> One day, as I was driving my 84 year old mother to her
> dialysis appointment I began questioning her about any
> illnesses I might of had while growing up. "I never took
> you boys to the Doctor while you were growing up other
> than for broken bones." My brothers and I were very active
> living in the country. Our diet in those days was meat,
> potatos, fresh vegetables, fruit and home made bread and
> fresh milk.
>
> My Mother then said, "you worse off than me" to which I
> replied "He doesnt know what all is wrong with me as all
> my blood tests are O.K. and everything, Im at my wits end.
> I was getting real depressed and even contimplated ending
> it all. My whole life, I had been very healthy and real
> strong and now I was as weak as could be. I then started
> reading books and surfing the internet. After a few weeks
> I found "Dorway".
>
> Long story short, I cleaned out my pantry and kitchen of
> all the sugar free Jello, pudding, No sugar added
> IceCream, sugar free cookies and Diet Drinks that
> contained aspertame. Within 3 days I noticed some
> improvement. Within 2 weeks I felt like a thirty year old
> again. I could drop down and do about 5 push ups and
> wanted to go walking around the farm. My knees completely
> cleared up and the head aches went away. With the help of
> using Aloe Vera Gel in my scalp and in my shower soap my
> skin condition cleared up 90 percent. I have not had one
> bit of under arm and groin rash since I quit using
> aspartame products.
>
> Did I mention that I also had been writting a book on my
> computer but I was unable to concentrate on spelling even
> the most simple of words until I got off that darn poison.
> I'm back to writting again. I'm now starting up in my
> metal shop which I stopped doing nine months ago.
>
> Now here's the good part. I went in to see my Doctor about
> six weeks ago about a cyst on my inner thigh that may or
> may not be related to Aspartame use. Anyway he had already
> given up on me regarding my Diabetes condition and
> scheduled me to see a Diabetic Specialist for the 17th of
> this month. I had gain 18 pounds on the last visit with
> him and my blood sugar levels were still out of control.
>
> He asked me in general conversation, "well how you been
> doing". I said "Great, never been better"
>
> By the way Doctor do you still use sugar free food and
> drinks? Sure, I drink diet pepsi, to which I replied,
> "Well, Doc, you might consider giving them up. You see,
> Doc, I've had Aspartame toxins in me since you first
> advised me to use them three years ago. Besides feeling
> great now, my blood sugar levels have come down to about
> 95 in the morning and about 110 in the PM and besides did
> you notice what my weight is today compared to three weeks
> ago?" He checked his Nurses notes and said your down
> considerably. about 20 pounds. I replied, "Yeah, and I
> dont even crave anything sweet any more. "Hmm, very
> interesting, let me know how your improving." He didn't
> have a clue about aspartame. I then took the new
> prescription and went to my trusted Pharmacist who didnt
> have a clue about the effects of Aspartame either.
>
> Then it hit me, the medical profession doesnt have a clue
> about food additives not even Aspartame. By the way, I
> also told my Doctor that probably a third of his patients
> probably have Aspartame poisoning and he never knew it. To
> that, he didnt have a response.
>
> I'm now reading every thing I can get my hands on
> regarding Aspartame. I've gotten three Diabetic friends
> off any thing sugar free or diet.
>
> If you dont remember the sixties very well there was a
> saying back then. "Power to the People".
>
> If I had my way there wouldnt be a congressman or
> Senator serving one more term unless he got on the band
> wagon and helped all of us victims of this terrrible
> injustice. We need to get literature out just before
> election time so any one would know how to vote
> responsibly. This is the only way we can get enough
> people educated. "I'M WONDERING, WHAT MORE CAN I DO".
> Should I mail all my sugar free drinks back to where
> they came from? No body and I mean nobody is so big and
> powerful that they cant be crippled legally. Forget your
> scientists and their truth ful results as that hasnt
> worked and never will. Hit em where it hurts. You have
> to ask your self one more question. If the movement to
> educated people like me is having any success then how
> come this ol' cowboy had to go through three years of
> living hell before I accidently "stumbled" across all
> the good word that you are putting out.
>
> I'm not going to apologize for the length of this e-mail
> because it all had to be said. I'm just an average guy who
> fought for his country and did everything asked of me only
> to be poisoned by my own country the good ol' U.S. of A.
>
> God Bless and Guide you now and always,
>
> Fred Keville, Lodi, CA
 
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>
> "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > [email protected] (Hurt Beyond Repair) wrote:
> >
> > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> >
> > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> >
> > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> >
>
> Because it's your job?
>
> mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?

<plonk>

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"mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > [email protected] (Hurt Beyond Repair) wrote:
> >
> > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> >
> > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> >
> > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> >
>
> Because it's your job?
>
> mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?

<plonk>

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"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > > [email protected] (Hurt
Beyond
> > > Repair) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> > >
> > > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> > >
> > > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> > >
> >
> > Because it's your job?
> >
> > mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>
> <plonk>

Another troll melts down.

mellstrr--I love this place
 
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > > [email protected] (Hurt
Beyond
> > > Repair) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> > >
> > > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> > >
> > > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> > >
> >
> > Because it's your job?
> >
> > mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>
> <plonk>

Another troll melts down.

mellstrr--I love this place
 
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > > [email protected] (Hurt
Beyond
> > > Repair) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> > >
> > > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> > >
> > > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> > >
> >
> > Because it's your job?
> >
> > mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>
> <plonk>

Thaaat's right, go make up some more names and try to
paint others as "ass-licking trolls", since you couldn't
do it to me.

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/
http://www.sweetpoison.com/

[...etc., etc., et.al., ad nauseam, all calling aspartame
"poison", which it most certainly is...]

Shilltroll. You and "all your sockies" see who's still here
and who isn't. Right?

You're just afraid people will actually make up their own
minds. Mustn't have that, then, right?

mellstrr--making friends and warming hearts wherever I go ;)
 
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
> > > [email protected] (Hurt
Beyond
> > > Repair) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Aspartame & Diabetes
> > >
> > > People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
> > >
> > > Why are we arguing with these twits?
> > >
> >
> > Because it's your job?
> >
> > mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>
> <plonk>

Thaaat's right, go make up some more names and try to
paint others as "ass-licking trolls", since you couldn't
do it to me.

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/
http://www.sweetpoison.com/

[...etc., etc., et.al., ad nauseam, all calling aspartame
"poison", which it most certainly is...]

Shilltroll. You and "all your sockies" see who's still here
and who isn't. Right?

You're just afraid people will actually make up their own
minds. Mustn't have that, then, right?

mellstrr--making friends and warming hearts wherever I go ;)
 
cc'd by email ALL - and trolls like you do her bidding

mellstrr wrote:

> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Ted Rosenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Look shithead You and Betty the fraud are not
>>>>welcome here
>>>>
>>>>and, for anyone who doesn't already know. Betty is NOT a
>>>>doctor,
>
> merely
>
>>>>a pitiful fraud who fillds thebandwith with attacks on
>>>>artificial sweetners, ALL phony, not a SIMGLE one true
>>>
>>>I'm sure you can give us specific examples of how the
>>>"attacks" she
>
> makes
>
>>>aren't true.
>>
>>I'm sure he can and so can I.
>
>
> Perhaps I wasn't specific enough for you.
>
> Are you saying that ALL the attacks on aspartame on the
> Internet trace back to "Dr." Betty, or just the ones
> relevant to diabetes?
>
> I don't care if it brings on diabetes or not, the **** is
> _poison_. Why else would there be those nifty little, erm,
> "health bulletins" on the cans of Diet Coke that used to
> litter my recycle bin?
>
> mellstrr
>
>
 
cc'd by email ALL - and trolls like you do her bidding

mellstrr wrote:

> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Ted Rosenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>Look shithead You and Betty the fraud are not
>>>>welcome here
>>>>
>>>>and, for anyone who doesn't already know. Betty is NOT a
>>>>doctor,
>
> merely
>
>>>>a pitiful fraud who fillds thebandwith with attacks on
>>>>artificial sweetners, ALL phony, not a SIMGLE one true
>>>
>>>I'm sure you can give us specific examples of how the
>>>"attacks" she
>
> makes
>
>>>aren't true.
>>
>>I'm sure he can and so can I.
>
>
> Perhaps I wasn't specific enough for you.
>
> Are you saying that ALL the attacks on aspartame on the
> Internet trace back to "Dr." Betty, or just the ones
> relevant to diabetes?
>
> I don't care if it brings on diabetes or not, the **** is
> _poison_. Why else would there be those nifty little, erm,
> "health bulletins" on the cans of Diet Coke that used to
> litter my recycle bin?
>
> mellstrr
>
>
 
mellstrr wrote:

> I don't care if it brings on diabetes or not, the **** is
_poison_.
> Why else would there be those nifty little, erm, "health
bulletins"
> on the cans of Diet Coke that used to litter my recycle
bin?

The health bulletins are there to warn people who suffer
from PKU that the product contains phenylalanine (an
essential amino acid) as required by law.
 
sore pupped droolings s

ellstrr wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
>>>>[email protected] (Hurt
>
> Beyond
>
>>>>Repair) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Aspartame & Diabetes
>>>>
>>>>People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
>>>>
>>>>Why are we arguing with these twits?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Because it's your job?
>>>
>>>mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>>
>><plonk>
>
>
> Thaaat's right, go make up some more names and try to
> paint others as "ass-licking trolls", since you couldn't
> do it to me.
>
> http://www.assholistiscam.com/aspartame/
> http://www.poisonbetty.com/
>
> [...etc., etc., et.al., ad nauseam, all calling aspartame
> "poison", which it most certainly is...]
>
> Shilltroll. You and "all your sockies" see who's still
> here and who isn't. Right?
>
> You're just afraid people will actually make up their own
> minds. Mustn't have that, then, right?
>
> mellstrr--making friends and warming hearts wherever I go
> ;)
 
mellstrr wrote:

> I don't care if it brings on diabetes or not, the **** is
_poison_.
> Why else would there be those nifty little, erm, "health
bulletins"
> on the cans of Diet Coke that used to litter my recycle
bin?

The health bulletins are there to warn people who suffer
from PKU that the product contains phenylalanine (an
essential amino acid) as required by law.
 
"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Perhaps I wasn't specific enough for you.
> >
> > Are you saying that ALL the attacks on aspartame on the
> > Internet trace
> back
> > to "Dr." Betty, or just the ones relevant to diabetes?
>
> Betty is NOT a Dr. and she is the one who started this
> whole Aspartame Urband legend.

So you're saying that she's responsible for ALL the attacks
on Aspartame?

Funny, I don't see that here:

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/

Or here:

http://www.sweetpoison.com/

Dr. Hull is a real doctor. And she says a lot of the same
stuff Betty does, though I haven't looked through her
site to check any mentions of "diabetes" in relation to
aspartame.

God, Julie, you need to go back to Shill School. It took me
a whole five minutes to look this up.

The **** is bad for you. If you don't understand that, I'm
sorry for you.

mellstrr
 
sore pupped droolings s

ellstrr wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>"Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>On 10 Mar 2004 11:55:47 -0800,
>>>>[email protected] (Hurt
>
> Beyond
>
>>>>Repair) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Aspartame & Diabetes
>>>>
>>>>People - read the cross-post: alt.conspiracy.
>>>>
>>>>Why are we arguing with these twits?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Because it's your job?
>>>
>>>mellstrr--otherwise, why would you bother?
>>
>><plonk>
>
>
> Thaaat's right, go make up some more names and try to
> paint others as "ass-licking trolls", since you couldn't
> do it to me.
>
> http://www.assholistiscam.com/aspartame/
> http://www.poisonbetty.com/
>
> [...etc., etc., et.al., ad nauseam, all calling aspartame
> "poison", which it most certainly is...]
>
> Shilltroll. You and "all your sockies" see who's still
> here and who isn't. Right?
>
> You're just afraid people will actually make up their own
> minds. Mustn't have that, then, right?
>
> mellstrr--making friends and warming hearts wherever I go
> ;)
 
"mellstrr" <[email protected]> obeyed the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> The **** is bad for you. If you don't understand that, I'm
> sorry for you.
>
> mellstrr

I personally kept Nutrasweet in business for I don't know
how many years, but just last week stopped drinking diet
soda. I can only hope I haven't harm my health at all.

--
Regards, UHD

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World Order. Coming soon to a town near you.
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"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > "mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Perhaps I wasn't specific enough for you.
> >
> > Are you saying that ALL the attacks on aspartame on the
> > Internet trace
> back
> > to "Dr." Betty, or just the ones relevant to diabetes?
>
> Betty is NOT a Dr. and she is the one who started this
> whole Aspartame Urband legend.

So you're saying that she's responsible for ALL the attacks
on Aspartame?

Funny, I don't see that here:

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/

Or here:

http://www.sweetpoison.com/

Dr. Hull is a real doctor. And she says a lot of the same
stuff Betty does, though I haven't looked through her
site to check any mentions of "diabetes" in relation to
aspartame.

God, Julie, you need to go back to Shill School. It took me
a whole five minutes to look this up.

The **** is bad for you. If you don't understand that, I'm
sorry for you.

mellstrr
 
"mellstrr" <[email protected]> obeyed the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> http://www.sweetpoison.com

Dr. Hull's big thing is hair analysis, which to my knowledge
has been debunked as a valid health assessment
procedure. More at:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

Commercial Hair Analysis: A Cardinal Sign of Quackery

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Hair analysis is a test in which a sample of a person's hair
-- typically from the back of the neck -- is sent to a
laboratory for measurement of its mineral content. This
discussion concerns multielemental hair analysis in which a
single test is used to determine values for many minerals
simultaneously. This type of analysis used by chiropractors,
"nutrition consultants," physicians who do chelation
therapy, and other dubious practitioners who claim that hair
analyses can help them diagnose a wide variety of diseases
and can be used as the basis for prescribing supplements.

Analysis of Proponent Claims

Proponents of hair analysis claim that it is useful for
evaluating a person's general state of nutrition and health
and is valuable in detecting predisposition to disease. They
also claim that hair analysis enables a doctor to determine
if mineral deficiency, mineral imbalance or heavy metal
pollutants in the body may be the cause of a patient's
symptoms. These claims are false.

Although hair analysis has limited value as a screening
device for heavy metal exposure, it is not reliable for
evaluating the nutritional status of individuals. In 1974,
the AMA Committee on Cutaneous Health and Cosmetics noted:
"The state of health of the body may be entirely unrelated
to the physical and chemical condition of the hair . . .
Although severe deficiency states of an essential element
are often associated with low concentrations of the element
in hair, there are no data that indicate that low
concentrations of an element signify low tissue levels nor
that high concentrations reflect high tissue stores.
Therefore . . . hair metal levels would rarely help a
physician select effective treatment." [1] Most commercial
hair analysis laboratories have not validated their
analytical techniques by checking them against standard
reference materials. The techniques typically used to
prepare samples for analysis can introduce errors for many
of the elements being determined. Hair mineral content can
be affected by exposure to various substances such as
shampoos, bleaches and hair dyes. No analytic technique
enables reliable determination of the source of specific
levels of elements in hair as bodily or environmental. The
level of certain minerals can be affected by the color,
diameter and rate of growth of an individual's hair, the
season of the year, the geographic location, and the age and
gender of the individual. Normal ranges of hair minerals
have not been defined. For most elements, no correlation has
been established between hair level and other known
indicators of nutrition status. It is possible for hair
concentration of an element (zinc, for example) to be high
even though deficiency exists in the body. Hair grows slowly
(1 cm/month), so even hair closest to the scalp is several
weeks old and thus may not reflect current body conditions
for purposes of health diagnosis. The use of a single
multielemental hair analysis test as the sole means of
diagnosis violates basic tenets of medical practice that
laboratory findings should be considered together with the
patient's history and physical examination, and that the
practitioner should keep in mind that laboratory errors
occur. For these reasons, multielemental analysis of human
hair is not a valid technique for identifying an
individual's current bodily excesses or deficiencies of
essential or nonessential elements. Nor does it provide a
valid basis for recommending vitamins, minerals, or other
dietary supplements [2,3]

--
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World Order. Coming soon to a town near you.
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"mellstrr" <[email protected]> obeyed the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> The **** is bad for you. If you don't understand that, I'm
> sorry for you.
>
> mellstrr

I personally kept Nutrasweet in business for I don't know
how many years, but just last week stopped drinking diet
soda. I can only hope I haven't harm my health at all.

--
Regards, UHD

Reading only in misc.survialism. alt.conspiracy, The New
World Order. Coming soon to a town near you.
www.infowars.com (Go Alex!) Free Ernst Zundel!
http://zundelsite.org
 
"mellstrr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Funny, I don't see that here:

<snip>
>
> Or here:

<snip>

I didn't say you would SEE it! But it does all trace
back to her.

> Dr. Hull is a real doctor. And she says a lot of the same
> stuff Betty
does,
> though I haven't looked through her site to check any
> mentions of
"diabetes"
> in relation to aspartame.

There IS no relationship between Aspartame and diabetes,
except that a lot of diabetics use it. I don't know if
Dr. Hull is a real Dr. or not. And I also don't know why
she says what she does. Could it be that she read what
Betty wrote and believes it to be true? I was once warned
of the dangers of Aspartame by the leader of my diabetes
support group. She had printed off page after page of
stuff that came from Betty. She found it on the Internet,
therefore it must be true! Or so she thought. And so a
lot of people think.
>
> God, Julie, you need to go back to Shill School. It took
> me a whole five minutes to look this up.

You're calling me a shill? Who am I shilling for then? Or
would that be whom? Took me less than 5 minutes to look up
my three links.
>
> The **** is bad for you. If you don't understand that, I'm
> sorry for you.

It's perfectly safe. Don't feel sorry for me. I am swigging
down my Diet Coke with Lime as I type. Yummy!

--
Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
 
"mellstrr" <[email protected]> obeyed the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> http://www.sweetpoison.com

Dr. Hull's big thing is hair analysis, which to my knowledge
has been debunked as a valid health assessment
procedure. More at:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html

Commercial Hair Analysis: A Cardinal Sign of Quackery

Stephen Barrett, M.D.

Hair analysis is a test in which a sample of a person's hair
-- typically from the back of the neck -- is sent to a
laboratory for measurement of its mineral content. This
discussion concerns multielemental hair analysis in which a
single test is used to determine values for many minerals
simultaneously. This type of analysis used by chiropractors,
"nutrition consultants," physicians who do chelation
therapy, and other dubious practitioners who claim that hair
analyses can help them diagnose a wide variety of diseases
and can be used as the basis for prescribing supplements.

Analysis of Proponent Claims

Proponents of hair analysis claim that it is useful for
evaluating a person's general state of nutrition and health
and is valuable in detecting predisposition to disease. They
also claim that hair analysis enables a doctor to determine
if mineral deficiency, mineral imbalance or heavy metal
pollutants in the body may be the cause of a patient's
symptoms. These claims are false.

Although hair analysis has limited value as a screening
device for heavy metal exposure, it is not reliable for
evaluating the nutritional status of individuals. In 1974,
the AMA Committee on Cutaneous Health and Cosmetics noted:
"The state of health of the body may be entirely unrelated
to the physical and chemical condition of the hair . . .
Although severe deficiency states of an essential element
are often associated with low concentrations of the element
in hair, there are no data that indicate that low
concentrations of an element signify low tissue levels nor
that high concentrations reflect high tissue stores.
Therefore . . . hair metal levels would rarely help a
physician select effective treatment." [1] Most commercial
hair analysis laboratories have not validated their
analytical techniques by checking them against standard
reference materials. The techniques typically used to
prepare samples for analysis can introduce errors for many
of the elements being determined. Hair mineral content can
be affected by exposure to various substances such as
shampoos, bleaches and hair dyes. No analytic technique
enables reliable determination of the source of specific
levels of elements in hair as bodily or environmental. The
level of certain minerals can be affected by the color,
diameter and rate of growth of an individual's hair, the
season of the year, the geographic location, and the age and
gender of the individual. Normal ranges of hair minerals
have not been defined. For most elements, no correlation has
been established between hair level and other known
indicators of nutrition status. It is possible for hair
concentration of an element (zinc, for example) to be high
even though deficiency exists in the body. Hair grows slowly
(1 cm/month), so even hair closest to the scalp is several
weeks old and thus may not reflect current body conditions
for purposes of health diagnosis. The use of a single
multielemental hair analysis test as the sole means of
diagnosis violates basic tenets of medical practice that
laboratory findings should be considered together with the
patient's history and physical examination, and that the
practitioner should keep in mind that laboratory errors
occur. For these reasons, multielemental analysis of human
hair is not a valid technique for identifying an
individual's current bodily excesses or deficiencies of
essential or nonessential elements. Nor does it provide a
valid basis for recommending vitamins, minerals, or other
dietary supplements [2,3]

--
Regards, UHD

Reading only in misc.survialism. alt.conspiracy, The New
World Order. Coming soon to a town near you.
www.infowars.com (Go Alex!) Free Ernst Zundel!
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