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  1. aus.bicycle FAQ Version 1.0.0, Last updated 10-DEC-2003

    Welcome to the aus.bicycle FAQ

    This is a compendium of Frequently Asked Questions from the newsgroup aus.bicycle, some of
    them even have answers. The lastest version is always available from:

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    maddogsbreakfast.com.auaus.bicycle.FAQ.txt
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    This document is Copyright (c) 2003 Kingsley Turner. Permission is granted to
    distribute this document on the criteria that it is remains unmodified, and it is not
    sold for profit.

    1 - Bicycling Resources & Propaganda
    1.1 What other bicycle newsgroups are there?
    2.2 What are some good cycling websites?
    3.3 What are some good mailing lists?
    4.4 What are some good cycling (paper) publications?

    2 - Riding

    5.1 Miscellany
    5.1.1 What do I do about this f@#$%^ing Magpie?
    5.2.2 Why do you shave your legs?

    6.2 Kids
    6.1.1 What are the options for carrying (non-riding) children by bike?
    6.2.2 Which is better: child seat or trailer?

    7.3 Touring

    8.4 Organised Rides

    8.1.1 Miscellany
    8.1.1.1 What are the major events on the Australian
    Cycling Calendar?
    8.1.2.2 What is Critical Mass?

    8.2.2 Clubs & BUGs

    8.3.3 Polaris

    8.4.4 Road Racing
    8.4.1.1 The TdF: What do the coloured jerseys mean?

    8.5.5 Couriers

    9.5 Laws, Accidents & Road Rage
    9.1.1 I've been involved in an accident, what do I do?
    9.2.2 I've been a victim of road rage, what do I do?

    10.6 Training, Fitness & Weight
    10.1.1 Reducing Body Fat
    10.2.2 How do I calculate my BMR (Basil Metabolic Rate)?

    3 - Gear

    11.1 Miscellany

    12.2 Shopping
    12.1.1 What online bike stores are there?
    12.2.2 Can I save money by importing gear myself?
    12.3.3 Where can I buy a 2nd-hand bike?

    13.3 Frame Building/Builders
    13.1.1 Does anyone know a good framebuilder?

    14.4 Parts & Maintenance

    14.1.1 Miscellany

    14.2.2 Lights
    14.2.1.1 Where can I get a cheap Vistalite Nightstick battery?
    14.2.2.2 Can someone recommend a smart charger?

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    1 Bicycling Resources & Propaganda:

    15.1 What other bicycle newsgroups are there?
    * aus.bicycle
    * uk.rec.cycling - Much like aus.bicycle
    * rec.bicycles.marketplace - Bike stuff for sale
    * rec.bicycles.misc - General bike discussion
    * rec.bicycles.off-road
    * rec.bicycles.racing
    * rec.bicycles.rides - About touring, but sometimes not
    * rec.bicycles.soc - The social ascpects of cycling
    * rec.bicycles.tech - Technical Q&A
    * alt.collecting.bicycles
    * alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
    * alt.mountain-bike

    1.2 What are some good cycling websites?
    * Cycling News: www.cyclingnews.com - Packed with news & reports.
    * Audax Australia: www.audax.org.au
    * Bicycle Fish: users.chariot.net.au/~gloria - Australian Bicycle Touring.
    * Aussie Cycling: www.aussiecycling.com.au/cycling - Books, links & for sale.
    * Tandem Club of Australia: home.vicnet.net.au/~tandem/
    * Biking Asia with Mr Pumpy: www.mrpumpy.net - Bicycle touring South-east Asia.
    * Bicycle Victoria: www.bv.com.au
    * Bicycle NSW: www.bicyclensw.org.au
    * Pedal Power ACT: www.pedalpower.org.au
    * Bicycle SA: www.bikesa.asn.au
    * Bicycle Tasmania: www.biketas.org.au (non-aussie pages)
    * MTB Review: www.mtbreview.com - User reviews of bike gear.
    * Ken Kifer's Bike Pages: www.kenkifer.com/bikepages
    * Sheldon Brown's: www.sheldonbrown.com - Bike gear and repairs

    1.3 What are some good cycling mail lists?
    * Phreds Bicycle Touring: www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/touring - Bicycle Touring,
    and sometimes unrelated topics (can be very high volume).
    * Hobbes Tandem List: www-acs.ucsd.edu/home-pages/wade/tandem.html - Tandem Everything
    (moderate volume).

    1.4 What are some good cycling (paper) publications?

    Magazine What's it about Australian Cyclist Bit of a mix: bike politics, touring, lists of
    clubs and diary of club rides, occasional gear review. Not usually any road racing news. Six
    issues a year, available at most newsagents and bike shops. RIDE Cycling Review Completely
    covers the bicycle racing scene, including both road and track. Has great gear reviews,
    although it does tend towards the top-end stuff. Six issues a year, available some newsagents,
    and bike shops Cycling Australia Covers racing, road & track. Always has reviews of high-end
    bikes, the occasional maintenance tip, and a bit of cycling gossip. Published five times a year
    Mountain Biking As above, but for mountain bikes. Australia Australian Mountain Covers the
    mountain bike racing scene in detail, usually Bike has interviews with Aussie riders, gear
    review, maintenance and (technical) riding tips. Six issues a year. Velovision (UK) This is an
    exceedingly interesting magazine, it focus is mainly bicycles as transport (or maybe 'bikes as
    a part of life'😉, with a heavy bent towards recumbent and other non-mainstream cycling. It does
    have a British and European focus, but contains articles sourced from all over the world.

    Available (at least) at Cheeky Monkey in Sydney.

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    2.2 Riding: Kids

    2.1.1 What are the options for carrying (non-riding) children by bike?

    This mostly depends on your childs age and capability:

    Child Seats: There are two types of child carriers, the ubiquitous rear-rack mounted
    seats, and the seats that mount on the handlebars so that the child sits between the arms
    of the rider.

    Trailer Bikes: A trailer bike is basically the back-half of a diamond-frame bike. There
    is no front wheel, but a tow arm that commonly connects to the seatpost or under the
    seat. These require some bike riding skills and balance, but not steering.

    Trailers: These are usually tethered to the bike by a socket-jointed tow-arm to the left
    chainstay. They can hold one or two children, who are held in with a seatbelt, but are
    still requried to wear a helmet. It's common for trailers to come with instructions that
    specify the minimum child age of 1 year.

    2.2.2 Which is better: child seat or trailer?

    Kingsley Turner wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Both of these have pros and cons:

    Both:
    * Child needs decent head control, approx 1 year old although I read about someone who
    strapped their car capsule into a trailer.
    * Adds at least a little weight to the bike, effecting handling.

    Seats:
    * Cheap - sub $100 for rear model, around $200 for a front.
    * Back & front (Bobike mini) available
    * Child is exposed to the elements
    * Child goes over with the bike in a crash (seen this happen twice)
    * You can talk quite easily with your child
    * Must be cautious that legs are properly strapped in (and not near spokes/wheels)
    * Loose usage/access to rear rack

    Trailer:
    * Expensive ($500-$1000)
    * Can hold 2 kids (Trek models up to 45kg)
    * Bike can stack, but trailer stays put
    * Slim chance of rolling it if you clip a gutter in exactly the wrong way at speed
    * Difficult to talk to your kids, near impossible with the plastic weather-shield down
    * Child is not exposed to the weather (don't forget hot sunny days too) and is toasty
    warm in winter/rain.
    * Weighs about 10-12kg depending on the model
    * Has plenty of 'boot' space for nappy bags, drinks, food, spare change of clothes,
    big doll, and the other doll.
    * Food & drink tends to get trampled into the floor (but you can just about
    hose it out)
    * High wind-resistance
    * Makes your bike into a wide load, watch the bollards on bike paths!
    * Weight of children is not directly on the bike
    * Can convert some trailers into a stroller (very important for touring)

    As you can probably guess most of my experience is with trailer. We towed both the brats
    1200km touring last year (and many km since) When they weren't being towed, they were
    being parambulated with the stroller conversion kit engaged.

    For quick trips, the seat is probably better/quicker but for longer ones the
    trailer is great.

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    2.3.1 Riding: Miscellany

    2.4.1 What do I do about this f@#$%^ing Magpie?

    (i) Ride fast, duck oppertunely!

    2.5.2 Why you shave your legs?

    (i) It makes applying first-aid/bandages simpler.

    (ii) It looks and feels good.

    (iii) Andrew Morris wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Have you ever had gravel nail brushed out of hairy legs???

    (iv) Paul J wrote in aus.bicycle:

    ... Reasons include; it feels damn nice, it look's good (so I'm told) and after a 120km
    ride the much needed massage afterward is so much better and easier.

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    2.6.1 Riding: Organised Rides: Miscellany

    2.6.1.1 What are the major events on the Australian Cycling Calendar?

    What When Where Audax Alpine Classic Australia Day See www.audax.org.au weekend Around the
    Bay in a Day ? Melbourne Tour Down Under January Usually around Adelaide and Adelaide Hills
    Sydney to the 'Gong First Sunday in Two start locations, one in Sydney, November the other
    closer to Woolongong. See www.msnsw.org.au/oe for further information. Cycle Sydney Late
    November A mass-ride through the heart of Sydney See www.bicyclensw.org.au for further
    information. RTA Big Ride: 8 days of Varies, but Changes each year, always around New
    supported once per year South Wales. bicycle-touring.

    2.6.2.2 What is Critical Mass?

    "Critical Mass is a monthly bicycle ride to celebrate cycling and to assert cyclists'
    right to the road."

    Probably the most spectacular thing about this assertion is that it happens during peak-
    hour traffic.

    For more information visit: www.criticalmass.org.au or criticalmassrides.info

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    2.7.4 Riding: Organised Rides: Road Racing

    2.7.1.1 The TdF: What do the coloured jerseys mean? Yellow - The daily overall leader by general
    classification (time minus bonuses). Green - The sprint leader, by points awarded at
    specific locations throughout the stages. Polka-dot - The 'King of the Mountains', by
    points are awarded for each climb. White - awarded to the fastest rider aged under 25.

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    3.5 Riding: Laws, Accidents & Road Rage

    3.1.1 I've been a involved in an accident, what do I do?

    You must call the police if anyone is injured. Whether or not you must call them for
    other circumstances varies from state to state. You may be legally required to give
    identification details to the other parties involved. You may also have to report the
    accident within 24 hours.

    Get name, address, and licence (if a car) details from the other party, you may also want
    to collect details from a witness.

    3.2.2 I've been a victim of road rage what do I do?

    (i) Report it to the police, try to include details like the rego number

    (ii) Claire Petersky wrote in rec.bicycles.misc:

    Quoted message said:

    One car-full of passing geniuses suggested that I get off the


    copulating road.

    Quoted message said:

    Only they didn't say copulating. I was a bit surprised that


    the road could

    Quoted message said:

    do that -- that asphalt certainly doesn't look like it


    reproduced that way.

    No, no, you misunderstood their intentions. The road does not copulate with itself.
    Rather, it is *you* who is partnered with the road.

    Have you not had a day, where you get out there on your bike, and there is the road
    before you, warm, inviting? It feels good, it smells good, it almost seems to taste good
    to be on it. Some days you start out eager, knowing what lies ahead. Other days you start
    out a little reluctantly -- surely you have better things to do -- clean the house, mow
    the lawn -- but here you are anyway, your bike and the road together, and after a little
    bit you know its going to be a good time.

    There are days when you dominate the road. It does your bidding. You groove on your
    control. There are other days when the road is your master. You submit to its demands.
    You get a perverted pleasure from the pain of your burning legs, your oxygen-starved
    lungs screaming for air.

    In any of these instances, though, you with your bike, and the road, are lovers. The
    term, "get off" as we all know, is a slang term that means to "derive pleasure". Thus,
    the encouraging, if

    "Enjoy yourself as you and the road make beautiful love together".

    To take this a step further -- in many mystical traditions, the physical act of love is
    understood as a metaphor for the spiritual union of human with the Divine. Can you ride
    as if you and the Road are One?

    The mudra of the single upraised digit is a reminder of this oneness: unity in Christ
    Consciousness, being at one with the Tao, La illaha Il' Allah, Adonai Echad. Thus, when
    someone makes this gesture at you, you should understand that they are wishing you the
    experience of this ecstatic union.

    The horn that is honked as the mudra is made is a meditation bell. Like a church bell,
    like the call of the muezzin's voice, it calls you into this sacred space of union, of
    you, your bike, and the road, as One.

    Thus, when the motorist honks his horn, raises the single digit, and makes his sincere
    invocation, you have but one response: to smile, to wave, and return to the joy of riding
    your bike.

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    2.6 Riding: Training, Fitness & Weight

    2.1.1 Reducing Body Fat

    (i) DMR wrote in aus.bicycles:

    There's no way you can advise anyone on their recommended daily fat consumption without
    knowing enough about their physiology, lifestyle and goals to properly calculate their
    actual calorific consumption, their BMR and then set their targets accordingly.

    I am currently reducing my body fat% and I'm eating accordingly
    - yet my recommended daily fat intake is (just checking the spreadsheet) 49.5grams. And
    I've lost about three kilos so far. The problem with the low fat message is that it's
    [censored] and any honest nutritionist will tell you the food pyramid we've grown up with
    is just accurate enough to be dangerous (there's a new one due out soon). For the past
    twenty to thirty years we've been steadily reducing our fat intake and yet as a society
    we've been getting steadily fatter. Think about it.

    I don't advocate a full Atkins diet (too many saturated fats for starters) but he was
    right about one thing: if you want to lose body fat you need to reduce your
    *carbohydrate* consumption. Cutting your fats intake - and you need the good fats, the
    poly- and monounsaturated ones, plus Omega-3 etc. - without cutting your *sugar* intake
    (which, at the end of the day, is all carbohydrates are) is a recipe for... (wait for
    it)... GETTING FAT!

    Broadly speaking the macronutritional breakdown for someone exercising regularly should
    be (in this order of importance):

    Protein: .8g/lb Lean Body Mass (that's your weight minus your fat).

    Fats: About 33% of your target calories, of which saturated fats should be
    33% or less.

    Carbohydrates: Whatever is left.

    The thing is this. Your body is incredibly good at keeping itself alive and it will use
    whatever it has to. Having said that, it prefers certain energy sources to others, and
    since losing or gaining weight is ultimately all about manipulating energy levels you can
    use that fact to your advantage. Roughly speaking your body will use carbohydrates, then
    fats and lastly proteins as sources of energy. So, when you cut back on the carbohydrates
    it will go for the fat stores next - which is what you want. However, don't cut your
    calorie intake too far below maintenance or your body will kick into starvation mode, and
    it will do everything it can to avoid using its fat stores, so it will start targetting
    your muscles. Breaking down proteins to use as energy is inefficient but in starvation
    mode it will do that rather than use your fat stores.

    So, having calculated your BMR and your actual daily calorific consumption, if you want
    to lose weight healthily set a target daily calorific consumption about 500 calories
    below maintenance, keep your protein and fat intake at their correct levels, drop your
    *carbohydrate* consumption heavily - and you'll see your body fat% drop slowly but
    steadily. There's roughly 3,500 calories per pound of fat so this regime should consume
    about one pound of fat per week, not including any loss of weight due to water loss.

    (ii) Gags wrote in aus.bicycles:

    The 65% to 85% max HR range is actually more like the range to train in to increase
    cardiovascular fitness (good for base training and general fitness). Sure, you will burn
    fat at these intensities but if fat loss is your main goal, then you are actually better
    off training at about 45% to 65% of max HR. The catch is that this only rings true if the
    distance is the same rather than the time (ie 1 hr @ 45-65% will not burn more fat than 1
    hr @ 65% to 85%, but, 47km @ 45-65% will utilise more fat than 47km @ 65-85%). As with
    most things you have to compromise depending on how much time you have available and what
    your long term goals are.

    [...] If you want to lose weight, you should concentrate on LSD training (don't get
    excited, it means Long, Slow, Distance). Basically you need to have your body utilising
    its aerobic energy systems and to do this you need to exercise at a moderate intensity
    for long periods of time. She is especially correct in that what you eat plays a big part
    in your results. As you have not said what your current situation is (could range from
    wanting to lose a couple of kg for summer to up in the obese range), it is hard to know
    what your final goals are.

    2.2.2 How do I calculate my BMR (Basil Metabolic Rate)?

    (i) Gags wrote in aus.bicycles:

    BMR = 66 + (13.7 x weight(kg)) + (5 x height(cm)) - (6.8 x age) kcal

    (ii) DMR wrote in aus.bicycles:

    I use the ISSA Basil Metabolic Rate (BMR) formula:
    1. For Men: 1 x body weight (kg) x 24 For Women: 0.9 x body weight (kg) x 24

    For you, that's 95 * 24 = 2280.

    2. Factor in your body fat percentage. Multiply the result from Step 1 by the
    multiplier factor:

    Men 10 to 14%, Women 14 to 18%: 1.0

    Men 14 to 20%, Women 18 to 28%: 0.95

    Men 20 to 28%, Women 28 to 38%: 0.90

    Men over 28%, Women over 38%: 0.85

    For the sake of illustration I'll assume you're in the 20-28% group, therefore:

    2280 * 0.90 = 2052 calories per day.

    This is your BMR. It's your base rate.

    3. Factor in your daily activity level. Multiply your BMR by the daily activity level
    multiplier factor:

    The Average Couch Potato range:
    4.30 (130%) = Very Light: Sitting, studying, talking, little walking or
    other activities through out the day
    5.55 (155%) = Light: Typing, teaching, lab/shop work, some walking
    throughout the day

    The Average Fitness Buff Range:
    6.55 (155%) = Light: Typing, teaching, lab/shop work, some walking
    throughout the day
    7.65 (165%) = Moderate: Walking, jogging, gardening type job with
    activities such as cycling, tennis, dancing, skiing or weight
    training 1-2 hours per day

    The Average Athlete or Hard Daily Training Range:
    8.80 (180%) = Heavy: Heavy manual labor such as digging, tree felling,
    climbing, with activities such as football, soccer or body building
    2-4 hours per day
    9.00 (200%) = Very Heavy: A combination of moderate and heavy activity
    8 or more hours per day, plus 2-4 hours of intense training per day

    For the sake of illustration I'll put you in the moderate group, therefore: Actual
    Daily Calories = 2052 * 1.65 = 3386 calories (* 4.18
    = 14153 kiloJoules) per day. This is how much you use every
    day on average. As a general rule, if you want to lose weight then consume fewer
    calories than this every day (start at -500 and see how you go), if you want to
    increase weight consume more (start at +500 and see how you go):

    Target calories:

    Maintenance: 3386 calories Gain: 3886 calories (maintenance +500) Loss: 2886
    calories (maintenance -500).

    9. (a) Protein:

    .8g/lb LBM. For the sake of illustration I'll assume your body fat % is 20%. Since
    your weight is 95kg (209lb) that would give you a LBM of 76kg (167.2lb) and
    therefore your protein intake should be 0.8 * 167.2 = 134 grams = 536 calories.

    (b) Fats:

    Roughly (Target calories * 1/3). Since we're assuming weight loss that would be
    (2886 * 0.3) = 866 calories = 96 grams. No more than (96/3 =) 32 grams of that
    should be saturated fats, preferably less. Rule of thumb: poly and mono-unsaturated
    fats and Omega3 fatty acids good, saturated fats not so good, trans fats bad.

    (c) Carbs:

    Whatever is left. 2886 - 536 - 866 = 1484 calories = 371 grams.

    There's a bit of flexibility in these targets but as long as you're fairly close
    over the long haul they'll work for sustainable weight loss. The same would go for
    maintenance or weight gain.

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    3.2 : Gear: Shoppping

    3.3.1 What online bike stores are there?

    Limited to web sites where you can actually complete a purchase online:

    * Phantom Cycles - www.phantomcycles.com.au
    * Dean Woods Direct - www.deanwoods.com.au
    * Cecil Walker - www.cecilwalker.com.au
    * VicMtb - www.vicmtb.com.au
    * Wooly's Wheels - www.woolyswheels.com.au
    * Ferntree Gully Cycles - www.ferntreegullycycles.com.au
    * Bicycling Direct - www.bicyclingdirect.com
    * Netti - www.netti.com.au

    3.4.2 Can I save money by importing gear myself?

    Well, sometimes yes.

    Local stores must charge you GST, and have already paid most of the
    shipping. Depending on the value of what you import, you will be
    charged GST by customs and perhaps duty too.

    Before you buy, ensure sizing and specifications are absolutely
    correct, and for electrical equipment (e.g. battery chargers) are
    compatible with the local system. Also work out what will happen for
    warranty returns.

    So factor in shipping, GST, possible customs duty, currency conversion
    charges (especially with credit card transactions), compatibility and
    then compare the cost. Less calcuable costs are warranty return
    problems, and discounts you might accrue via shop loyalty. Certain
    shops will also give a significant percentage discount to state-bicycle-
    body members, for example: BNSW card holders can get 5-10% off gear
    most places.

    3.5.3 Where can I buy a 2nd-hand bike?
    * The Trading Post newspaper / www.tradingpost.com.au.
    * Bicycling Australia classifides:
    www.bicyclingaustralia.com.au/ba/classifides.
    * EBay www.ebay.com.au - know your prices though.
    * Victoria:
    * Bicycle Recycle - South Rd, Oakleigh
    * Freedom Machine - Prahran
    * Cecil Walker - Melbourne

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    3.3 Gear: Frame Building/Builders

    3.1.1 Does anyone know a good framebuilder?

    * Paconi in Melbourne
    * -----------------------------------------

    3.4 Gear: Parts & Maintenance

    3.1.1 Gear: Parts & Maintenance: Miscellany

    3.2.2 Gear: Parts & Maintenance: Lights

    3.2.1.1 Where can I get a cheap Vistalite Nightstick battery?

    Nick Payne wrote in aus.bicycle:

    I made my own stick batteries. It cost about $55 for 10 2.9Ah
    NiMH sub-C cells with solder tags from Jaycar - enough for
    two sticks. I used garden irrigation pipe and endcaps to make
    the stick. I already had the pipe etc lying around from
    having installed an irrigation system in my garden, but
    they're not expensive items. I also needed a couple of
    sockets to fit the plugs on the Vistalite cables. So total
    cost was around $70 plus a few hours of time.

    3.2.2.1 Can someone recommend a smart charger?

    Nick Payne wrote in aus.bicycle:

    See www.angelfire.com/electronic/hayles/charge1.html. I built
    a couple of these, with the addition of a switch to toggle a
    resistor so that I can charge either 6v or 12v. They work
    fine with bottle batteries and stick batteries.

    All trademarks are property of their respective owners

  2. Yes, this should be posted automatically once a week, or preferably, if the
    enwsgroup server could hol dit in position 1 at all times.
    "kingsley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    aus.bicycle FAQ
    Version 1.0.0, Last updated 10-DEC-2003

    Welcome to the aus.bicycle FAQ

    This is a compendium of Frequently Asked Questions from the newsgroup aus.bicycle, some
    of them even have answers. The lastest version is always available from:

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    This document is Copyright (c) 2003 Kingsley Turner. Permission is granted to distribute
    this document on the criteria that it is remains unmodified, and it is not sold for
    profit.

    1 - Bicycling Resources & Propaganda
    1.1 What other bicycle newsgroups are there?
    1.2 What are some good cycling websites?
    1.3 What are some good mailing lists?
    1.4 What are some good cycling (paper) publications?

    2 - Riding

    2.1 Miscellany
    2.1.1 What do I do about this f@#$%^ing Magpie?
    2.1.2 Why do you shave your legs?

    2.2 Kids
    2.2.1 What are the options for carrying (non-riding) children by bike?
    2.2.2 Which is better: child seat or trailer?

    2.3 Touring

    2.4 Organised Rides

    2.4.1 Miscellany
    2.4.1.1 What are the major events on the Australian Cycling
    Calendar?
    2.4.1.2 What is Critical Mass?

    2.4.2 Clubs & BUGs

    2.4.3 Polaris

    2.4.4 Road Racing
    2.4.4.1 The TdF: What do the coloured jerseys mean?

    2.4.5 Couriers

    2.5 Laws, Accidents & Road Rage
    2.5.1 I've been involved in an accident, what do I do?
    2.5.2 I've been a victim of road rage, what do I do?

    2.6 Training, Fitness & Weight
    2.6.1 Reducing Body Fat
    2.6.2 How do I calculate my BMR (Basil Metabolic Rate)?

    3 - Gear

    3.1 Miscellany

    3.2 Shopping
    3.2.1 What online bike stores are there?
    3.2.2 Can I save money by importing gear myself?
    3.2.3 Where can I buy a 2nd-hand bike?

    3.3 Frame Building/Builders
    3.3.1 Does anyone know a good framebuilder?

    3.4 Parts & Maintenance

    3.4.1 Miscellany

    3.4.2 Lights
    3.4.2.1 Where can I get a cheap Vistalite Nightstick battery?
    3.4.2.2 Can someone recommend a smart charger?

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    1 Bicycling Resources & Propaganda:

    1.1 What other bicycle newsgroups are there?
    * aus.bicycle
    * uk.rec.cycling - Much like aus.bicycle
    * rec.bicycles.marketplace - Bike stuff for sale
    * rec.bicycles.misc - General bike discussion
    * rec.bicycles.off-road
    * rec.bicycles.racing
    * rec.bicycles.rides - About touring, but sometimes not
    * rec.bicycles.soc - The social ascpects of cycling
    * rec.bicycles.tech - Technical Q&A
    * alt.collecting.bicycles
    * alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
    * alt.mountain-bike

    1.2 What are some good cycling websites?
    * Cycling News: www.cyclingnews.com - Packed with news & reports.
    * Audax Australia: www.audax.org.au
    * Bicycle Fish: users.chariot.net.au/~gloria - Australian Bicycle Touring.
    * Aussie Cycling: www.aussiecycling.com.au/cycling - Books, links & for sale.
    * Tandem Club of Australia: home.vicnet.net.au/~tandem/
    * Biking Asia with Mr Pumpy: www.mrpumpy.net - Bicycle touring South-east Asia.
    * Bicycle Victoria: www.bv.com.au
    * Bicycle NSW: www.bicyclensw.org.au
    * Pedal Power ACT: www.pedalpower.org.au
    * Bicycle SA: www.bikesa.asn.au
    * Bicycle Tasmania: www.biketas.org.au (non-aussie pages)
    * MTB Review: www.mtbreview.com - User reviews of bike gear.
    * Ken Kifer's Bike Pages: www.kenkifer.com/bikepages
    * Sheldon Brown's: www.sheldonbrown.com - Bike gear and repairs

    1.3 What are some good cycling mail lists?
    * Phreds Bicycle Touring: www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/touring - Bicycle Touring,
    and sometimes unrelated topics (can be very high volume).
    * Hobbes Tandem List: www-acs.ucsd.edu/home-pages/wade/tandem.html - Tandem
    Everything (moderate volume).

    1.4 What are some good cycling (paper) publications?

    Magazine What's it about Australian Cyclist Bit of a mix: bike politics, touring, lists of
    clubs


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    diary of club rides, occasional gear review. Not


    usually

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    any road racing news. Six issues a year, available at


    most

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    newsagents and bike shops. RIDE Cycling Review Completely covers the bicycle
    racing scene, including


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    road and track. Has great gear reviews, although it


    does

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    tend towards the top-end stuff. Six issues a year, available some newsagents,
    and bike shops Cycling Australia Covers racing, road & track. Always has
    reviews of high-end bikes, the occasional maintenance tip, and a


    bit

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    of cycling gossip. Published five times a year Mountain Biking As above, but
    for mountain bikes. Australia Australian Mountain Covers the mountain bike
    racing scene in detail,


    usually

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    Bike has interviews with Aussie riders, gear review, maintenance and (technical) riding tips. Six
    issues a year. Velovision (UK) This is an exceedingly interesting magazine, it focus


    is

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    mainly bicycles as transport (or maybe 'bikes as a


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    life'😉, with a heavy bent towards recumbent and other non-mainstream cycling.
    It does have a British and European focus, but contains articles sourced from
    all over the world.

    Available (at least) at Cheeky Monkey in Sydney.

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    2.2 Riding: Kids

    2.2.1 What are the options for carrying (non-riding) children by bike?

    This mostly depends on your childs age and capability:

    Child Seats: There are two types of child carriers, the ubiquitous rear-rack mounted
    seats, and the seats that mount on the handlebars so that the child sits between the
    arms of the rider.

    Trailer Bikes: A trailer bike is basically the back-half of a diamond-frame bike. There
    is no front wheel, but a tow arm that commonly connects to the seatpost or under the
    seat. These require some bike riding skills and balance, but not steering.

    Trailers: These are usually tethered to the bike by a socket-jointed tow-arm to the
    left chainstay. They can hold one or two children, who are held in with a seatbelt, but
    are still requried to wear a helmet. It's common for trailers to come


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    instructions that specify the minimum child age of 1 year.

    2.2.2 Which is better: child seat or trailer?

    Kingsley Turner wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Both of these have pros and cons:

    Both:
    * Child needs decent head control, approx 1 year old


    although

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    I read about someone who strapped their car capsule into a trailer.
    * Adds at least a little weight to the bike, effecting handling.

    Seats:
    * Cheap - sub $100 for rear model, around $200 for a front.
    * Back & front (Bobike mini) available
    * Child is exposed to the elements
    * Child goes over with the bike in a crash (seen this happen twice)
    * You can talk quite easily with your child
    * Must be cautious that legs are properly strapped in (and not near spokes/wheels)
    * Loose usage/access to rear rack

    Trailer:
    * Expensive ($500-$1000)
    * Can hold 2 kids (Trek models up to 45kg)
    * Bike can stack, but trailer stays put
    * Slim chance of rolling it if you clip a gutter in exactly the wrong way at speed
    * Difficult to talk to your kids, near impossible with the plastic weather-shield
    down
    * Child is not exposed to the weather (don't forget hot


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    days too) and is toasty warm in winter/rain.
    * Weighs about 10-12kg depending on the model
    * Has plenty of 'boot' space for nappy bags, drinks, food, spare change of clothes,
    big doll, and the other doll.
    * Food & drink tends to get trampled into the floor (but you can just about hose it
    out)
    * High wind-resistance
    * Makes your bike into a wide load, watch the bollards on bike paths!
    * Weight of children is not directly on the bike
    * Can convert some trailers into a stroller (very important for touring)

    As you can probably guess most of my experience is with


    trailer.

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    We towed both the brats 1200km touring last year (and many km since) When they weren't
    being towed, they were being parambulated with the stroller conversion kit engaged.

    For quick trips, the seat is probably better/quicker but for longer ones the trailer is
    great.

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    2.1.1 Riding: Miscellany

    2.2.1 What do I do about this f@#$%^ing Magpie?

    (i) Ride fast, duck oppertunely!

    2.2.2 Why you shave your legs?

    (i) It makes applying first-aid/bandages simpler.

    (ii) It looks and feels good.

    (iii) Andrew Morris wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Have you ever had gravel nail brushed out of hairy legs???

    (iv) Paul J wrote in aus.bicycle:

    ... Reasons include; it feels damn nice, it look's good (so I'm told) and after a 120km
    ride the much needed massage afterward is so much better and easier.

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    2.4.1 Riding: Organised Rides: Miscellany

    2.4.1.1 What are the major events on the Australian Cycling Calendar?

    What When Where Audax Alpine Classic Australia Day See www.audax.org.au weekend Around
    the Bay in a Day ? Melbourne Tour Down Under January Usually around Adelaide and


    Adelaide

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    Hills Sydney to the 'Gong First Sunday in Two start
    locations, one in


    Sydney,

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    November the other closer to Woolongong.


    See

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    www.msnsw.org.au/oe for further information. Cycle Sydney
    Late November A mass-ride through the heart of Sydney See
    www.bicyclensw.org.au


    for

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    further information. RTA Big Ride: 8 days of Varies, but
    Changes each year, always around


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    supported once per year South Wales. bicycle-touring.

    2.4.1.2 What is Critical Mass?

    "Critical Mass is a monthly bicycle ride to celebrate cycling and to assert cyclists'
    right to the road."

    Probably the most spectacular thing about this assertion is


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    it happens during peak-hour traffic.

    For more information visit: www.criticalmass.org.au or criticalmassrides.info

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    2.4.4 Riding: Organised Rides: Road Racing

    2.4.4.1 The TdF: What do the coloured jerseys mean? Yellow - The daily overall leader by
    general classification (time minus bonuses). Green - The sprint leader, by points awarded
    at specific locations throughout the stages. Polka-dot - The 'King of the Mountains', by
    points are awarded for each climb. White - awarded to the fastest rider aged under 25.

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    2.5 Riding: Laws, Accidents & Road Rage

    2.5.1 I've been a involved in an accident, what do I do?

    You must call the police if anyone is injured. Whether or not you must call them for
    other circumstances varies from state to state. You may be legally required to give
    identification details to the other parties involved. You may also have to report the
    accident within 24 hours.

    Get name, address, and licence (if a car) details from the


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    party, you may also want to collect details from a witness.

    2.5.2 I've been a victim of road rage what do I do?

    (i) Report it to the police, try to include details like the rego number

    (ii) Claire Petersky wrote in rec.bicycles.misc:

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    One car-full of passing geniuses suggested that I get off the


    copulating road.

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    Only they didn't say copulating. I was a bit surprised that


    the road could

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    do that -- that asphalt certainly doesn't look like it


    reproduced that way.

    No, no, you misunderstood their intentions. The road does not copulate with itself.
    Rather, it is *you* who is partnered with the road.

    Have you not had a day, where you get out there on your bike, and there is the road
    before you, warm, inviting? It feels


    good,

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    it smells good, it almost seems to taste good to be on it. Some days you start out
    eager, knowing what lies ahead. Other days you start out a little reluctantly -- surely
    you have better things to do -- clean the house, mow the lawn -- but here you are
    anyway, your bike and the road together, and after a little bit you know its going to
    be a good time.

    There are days when you dominate the road. It does your


    bidding.

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    You groove on your control. There are other days when the road is your master. You
    submit to its demands. You get a perverted pleasure from the pain of your burning legs,
    your


    oxygen-starved

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    lungs screaming for air.

    In any of these instances, though, you with your bike, and the road, are lovers. The
    term, "get off" as we all know, is a


    slang

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    term that means to "derive pleasure". Thus, the encouraging, if

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    "Enjoy yourself as you and the road make beautiful love together".

    To take this a step further -- in many mystical traditions, the physical act of love is
    understood as a metaphor for the spiritual union of human with the Divine. Can you ride
    as if


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    and the Road are One?

    The mudra of the single upraised digit is a reminder of this oneness: unity in Christ
    Consciousness, being at one with the Tao, La illaha Il' Allah, Adonai Echad. Thus, when
    someone


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    this gesture at you, you should understand that they are


    wishing

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    you the experience of this ecstatic union.

    The horn that is honked as the mudra is made is a meditation bell. Like a church bell,
    like the call of the muezzin's voice, it calls you into this sacred space of union, of
    you, your


    bike,

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    and the road, as One.

    Thus, when the motorist honks his horn, raises the single


    digit,

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    and makes his sincere invocation, you have but one response: to smile, to wave, and
    return to the joy of riding your bike.

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    2.6 Riding: Training, Fitness & Weight

    2.6.1 Reducing Body Fat

    (i) DMR wrote in aus.bicycles:

    There's no way you can advise anyone on their recommended daily fat consumption without
    knowing enough about their physiology, lifestyle and goals to properly calculate their
    actual


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    consumption, their BMR and then set their targets accordingly.

    I am currently reducing my body fat% and I'm eating accordingly
    - yet my recommended daily fat intake is (just checking the spreadsheet) 49.5grams. And
    I've lost about three kilos so far. The problem with the low fat message is that it's
    [censored] and any honest nutritionist will tell you the food pyramid we've grown up
    with is just accurate enough to be dangerous (there's


    a

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    new one due out soon). For the past twenty to thirty years


    we've

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    been steadily reducing our fat intake and yet as a society


    we've

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    been getting steadily fatter. Think about it.

    I don't advocate a full Atkins diet (too many saturated fats


    for

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    starters) but he was right about one thing: if you want to lose body fat you need to
    reduce your *carbohydrate* consumption. Cutting your fats intake - and you need the
    good fats, the


    poly-

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    and monounsaturated ones, plus Omega-3 etc. - without cutting your *sugar* intake
    (which, at the end of the day, is all carbohydrates are) is a recipe for... (wait for
    it)... GETTING FAT!

    Broadly speaking the macronutritional breakdown for someone exercising regularly should
    be (in this order of importance):

    Protein: .8g/lb Lean Body Mass (that's your weight minus your fat).

    Fats: About 33% of your target calories, of which saturated fats should be 33% or
    less.

    Carbohydrates: Whatever is left.

    The thing is this. Your body is incredibly good at keeping itself alive and it will use
    whatever it has to. Having said that, it prefers certain energy sources to others, and
    since losing or gaining weight is ultimately all about manipulating energy levels you
    can use that fact to your advantage. Roughly speaking your body will use carbohydrates,
    then fats and lastly proteins as sources of energy. So, when you cut back on the
    carbohydrates it will go for the fat stores next - which is


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    you want. However, don't cut your calorie intake too far below maintenance or your body
    will kick into starvation mode, and it will do everything it can to avoid using its fat
    stores, so it will start targetting your muscles. Breaking down proteins to use as
    energy is inefficient but in starvation mode it will do that rather than use your fat
    stores.

    So, having calculated your BMR and your actual daily calorific consumption, if you want
    to lose weight healthily set a target daily calorific consumption about 500 calories
    below maintenance, keep your protein and fat intake at their correct levels, drop your
    *carbohydrate* consumption heavily - and you'll see your body fat% drop slowly but
    steadily. There's roughly 3,500 calories per pound of fat so this regime should consume
    about one pound of fat per week, not including any loss of weight due to water loss.

    (ii) Gags wrote in aus.bicycles:

    The 65% to 85% max HR range is actually more like the range to train in to increase
    cardiovascular fitness (good for base training and general fitness). Sure, you will
    burn fat at these intensities but if fat loss is your main goal, then you are actually
    better off training at about 45% to 65% of max HR. The catch is that this only rings
    true if the distance is the same rather than the time (ie 1 hr @ 45-65% will not burn
    more fat than 1 hr @ 65% to 85%, but, 47km @ 45-65% will utilise more


    fat

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    than 47km @ 65-85%). As with most things you have to compromise depending on how much
    time you have available and what your


    long

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    term goals are.

    [...] If you want to lose weight, you should concentrate on LSD training (don't get
    excited, it means Long, Slow, Distance). Basically you need to have your body utilising
    its aerobic energy systems and to do this you need to exercise at a


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    intensity for long periods of time. She is especially correct


    in

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    that what you eat plays a big part in your results. As you have not said what your
    current situation is (could range from wanting to lose a couple of kg for summer to up
    in the obese range), it is hard to know what your final goals are.

    2.6.2 How do I calculate my BMR (Basil Metabolic Rate)?

    (i) Gags wrote in aus.bicycles:

    BMR = 66 + (13.7 x weight(kg)) + (5 x height(cm)) - (6.8 x age) kcal

    (ii) DMR wrote in aus.bicycles:

    I use the ISSA Basil Metabolic Rate (BMR) formula:
    1. For Men: 1 x body weight (kg) x 24 For Women: 0.9 x body weight (kg) x 24

    For you, that's 95 * 24 = 2280.

    2. Factor in your body fat percentage. Multiply the result from Step 1 by the
    multiplier factor:

    Men 10 to 14%, Women 14 to 18%: 1.0

    Men 14 to 20%, Women 18 to 28%: 0.95

    Men 20 to 28%, Women 28 to 38%: 0.90

    Men over 28%, Women over 38%: 0.85

    For the sake of illustration I'll assume you're in the 20-28% group, therefore:

    2280 * 0.90 = 2052 calories per day.

    This is your BMR. It's your base rate.

    3. Factor in your daily activity level. Multiply your BMR by the daily activity level
    multiplier factor:

    The Average Couch Potato range:
    1.30 (130%) = Very Light: Sitting, studying, talking, little walking
    or other activities through out the day
    1.55 (155%) = Light: Typing, teaching, lab/shop work, some walking
    throughout the


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    The Average Fitness Buff Range:
    1.55 (155%) = Light: Typing, teaching, lab/shop work, some walking
    throughout the


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    1.65 (165%) = Moderate: Walking, jogging, gardening type job with
    activities such as cycling, tennis, dancing, skiing or weight
    training 1-2 hours per day

    The Average Athlete or Hard Daily Training Range:
    1.80 (180%) = Heavy: Heavy manual labor such as digging, tree
    felling, climbing, with activities such as football, soccer or body
    building 2-4 hours per day
    2.00 (200%) = Very Heavy: A combination of moderate and heavy
    activity 8 or more hours per day, plus 2-4 hours of intense
    training per day

    For the sake of illustration I'll put you in the moderate group, therefore: Actual
    Daily Calories = 2052 * 1.65 = 3386 calories (*


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    = 14153 kiloJoules) per day. This is how much you use


    every

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    day on average. As a general rule, if you want to lose weight then consume fewer
    calories than this every day (start at -500 and see how you go), if you want to


    increase

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    weight consume more (start at +500 and see how you go):

    Target calories:

    Maintenance: 3386 calories Gain: 3886 calories (maintenance +500) Loss: 2886
    calories (maintenance -500).

    4. (a) Protein:

    .8g/lb LBM. For the sake of illustration I'll assume your body fat % is 20%. Since
    your weight is 95kg (209lb) that would give you a LBM of 76kg (167.2lb) and
    therefore your protein intake should be 0.8 * 167.2 = 134 grams = 536 calories.

    (b) Fats:

    Roughly (Target calories * 1/3). Since we're assuming weight loss that would be
    (2886 * 0.3) = 866 calories = 96 grams. No more than (96/3 =) 32 grams of that
    should be saturated fats, preferably less. Rule of thumb: poly and mono-
    unsaturated fats and Omega3 fatty acids good, saturated fats not so good, trans
    fats bad.

    (c) Carbs:

    Whatever is left. 2886 - 536 - 866 = 1484 calories = 371 grams.

    There's a bit of flexibility in these targets but as long as you're fairly close
    over the long haul they'll work for sustainable weight loss. The same would go for
    maintenance or weight gain.

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    3.2 : Gear: Shoppping

    3.2.1 What online bike stores are there?

    Limited to web sites where you can actually complete a purchase
    online:

    * Phantom Cycles -


    www.phantomcycles.com.au

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    * Dean Woods Direct - www.deanwoods.com.au
    * Cecil Walker - www.cecilwalker.com.au
    * VicMtb - www.vicmtb.com.au
    * Wooly's Wheels - www.woolyswheels.com.au
    * Ferntree Gully Cycles - www.ferntreegullycycles.com.au
    * Bicycling Direct - www.bicyclingdirect.com
    * Netti - www.netti.com.au

    3.2.2 Can I save money by importing gear myself?

    Well, sometimes yes.

    Local stores must charge you GST, and have already paid most of the
    shipping. Depending on the value of what you import, you will be
    charged GST by customs and perhaps duty too.

    Before you buy, ensure sizing and specifications are absolutely
    correct, and


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    electrical equipment (e.g. battery chargers) are compatible with the
    local system. Also work out what will happen for warranty returns.

    So factor in shipping, GST, possible customs duty, currency
    conversion charges (especially with credit card transactions),
    compatibility and then compare the cost. Less calcuable costs are
    warranty return problems, and discounts you might accrue via shop
    loyalty. Certain shops will also give a significant percentage
    discount to state-bicycle-body members, for example: BNSW card
    holders can get 5-10% off gear most places.

    3.2.3 Where can I buy a 2nd-hand bike?
    * The Trading Post newspaper / www.tradingpost.com.au.
    * Bicycling Australia classifides:


    www.bicyclingaustralia.com.au/ba/classifides.

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    * EBay www.ebay.com.au - know your prices though.
    * Victoria:
    * Bicycle Recycle - South Rd,


    Oakleigh

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    * Freedom Machine - Prahran
    * Cecil Walker - Melbourne

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    3.3 Gear: Frame Building/Builders

    3.3.1 Does anyone know a good framebuilder?

    * Paconi in Melbourne


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    3.4 Gear: Parts & Maintenance

    3.4.1 Gear: Parts & Maintenance: Miscellany

    3.4.2 Gear: Parts & Maintenance: Lights

    3.4.2.1 Where can I get a cheap


    Vistalite

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    Nightstick battery?

    Nick Payne wrote in aus.bicycle:

    I made my own stick batteries. It cost about $55 for 10
    2.9Ah NiMH sub-C cells with solder tags from Jaycar -
    enough for two sticks. I used garden irrigation pipe and
    endcaps to make the stick. I


    already

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    had the pipe etc lying around from having installed an
    irrigation system in my garden, but they're


    not

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    expensive items. I also needed a couple of sockets to fit
    the plugs on the Vistalite cables. So total cost was around
    $70 plus a few


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    of time.

    3.4.2.1 Can someone recommend a smart charger?

    Nick Payne wrote in aus.bicycle:

    See


    www.angelfire.com/electronic/hayles/charge1.html.

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    I built a couple of these, with the addition of a switch to
    toggle a resistor so that I can charge


    either

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    6v or 12v. They work fine with bottle batteries and stick
    batteries.

    All trademarks are property of their respective owners

  3. kingsley:

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    2.2.2 Why you shave your legs?

    I think if you're going to include things like this topic in a FAQ, you should at least attempt to
    inject some counterbalance to the myths.

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    (i) It makes applying first-aid/bandages simpler.

    Bandages can be applied with or without hair; these don't rely on sticking to the skin but rather on
    the tightness of the wrap.

    It's First Aid, meant to be a stop-gap measure between injury and more appropriate medical care; not
    meant for long-term treatment. You won't lose your leg if you get it superficially injured and you
    haven't shaved it, and you won't require the expertise of paramedics to apply FA either just because
    you have hair on it.

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    (ii) It looks and feels good.

    Looks good on men? Debatable. Feels good? Only if you run your hands along your legs a lot. This
    reasoning is why people have good cause to label it a fetish.

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    (iii) Andrew Morris wrote in aus.bicycle:

    Have you ever had gravel nail brushed out of hairy legs???

    It's not that hard. How often do you get gravel nail on your hairy legs?

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    (iv) Paul J wrote in aus.bicycle:

    ... Reasons include; it feels damn nice, it look's good (so I'm told) and after a 120km
    ride the much needed massage afterward is so much better and easier.

    How is a massage "so much better and easier" without hair on your legs?

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    2.5.2 I've been a victim of road rage what do I do?

    (i) Report it to the police, try to include details like the rego number

    Good advice, but you ruin it by adding the pseudo-spiritual New Age neo-mystical crapola below. FAQs
    are supposed to be informative, not a note for ramblings... you, bike, road are lovers? Get a grip
    (or perhaps better, don't...).

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    (ii) Claire Petersky wrote in rec.bicycles.misc:


    [snip]

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    There are days when you dominate the road. It does your bidding. You groove on your
    control. There are other days when the road is your master. You submit to its demands.
    You get a perverted pleasure from the pain of your burning legs, your oxygen-starved
    lungs screaming for air.

    In any of these instances, though, you with your bike, and the road, are lovers. The
    term, "get off" as we all know, is a slang term that means to "derive pleasure". Thus,
    the encouraging, if

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    "Enjoy yourself as you and the road make beautiful love together".


    [snip crapola]

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    2.6 Riding: Training, Fitness & Weight

    2.6.1 Reducing Body Fat

    Have you verified the medical veracity of the advice you included under this heading? If not, it's
    unwise to include them as answers to FAQs as you don't know whether these are true or not. A simple
    way to verify these is to ask for the specific references and include them.

  4. "kingsley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    aus.bicycle FAQ
    Version 1.0.0, Last updated 10-DEC-2003

    A section on bicycle theft insurance and crash insurance options would be good - that pops
    up a bit..

    hippy

  5. hippy said:

    "kingsley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    aus.bicycle FAQ
    Version 1.0.0, Last updated 10-DEC-2003

    A section on bicycle theft insurance and crash insurance options would be good - that pops
    up a bit..

    WTF! Does that mean that my previous post did come through ? I still can't see it!?

    Anyway, yeah, insurance is a good idea. I'll have a poke about google for some info. I might still
    even have my papers from last year.

    cheers, -kt

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