Back in the USA (sorta beer / home report)



"Sand Squid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
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> But that's really okay with me.... Tell you what; You just go ahead and
> keep living in your pathetic state of denial, and false sense of
> security and enjoying your liberties and freedoms, and I'll keep going
> out putting my life on the line to defend your rights to express your
> opinions without fear of public execution for daring to express them.
>
>
> --
> "Are those cold yet?"
>


Gomer:

This war has nothing to do with any of that.

It's Vietnamistan
 
Tom Carson wrote:
> "Sand Squid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The point is; I'd rather play the "away game" so we never have to
>> expose our families to the "home game", again.
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>>

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> You are a tool, aren't you.
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>
>

And you're a mindless *****, aren't you.
 
"Jim" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:sISTg.796$BC6.474@fed1read01...
> Tom Carson wrote:
>> "Sand Squid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
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>>
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>>> The point is; I'd rather play the "away game" so we never have to
>>> expose our families to the "home game", again.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> You are a tool, aren't you.
>>
>>

> And you're a mindless *****, aren't you.


No that would be W :) There are over 2700 facts to prove it.
 
Sand Squid wrote:
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> You ever taken hostile fire while out on patrol? Ever run to a bunker
> under incoming mortars? Perhaps, taken a round in the chest plate of
> your body armor? Stood over the smouldering remains of men, women and
> children murdered by an IED because they didn't share the same
> religious or political views as you???


Wouldn't you be doing the same if the situation were reversed?

>
> But that's really okay with me... Tell you what; You just go ahead and
> keep living in your pathetic state of denial, and false sense of
> security and enjoying your liberties and freedoms, and I'll keep going
> out putting my life on the line to defend your rights to express your
> opinions without fear of public execution for daring to express them.
>


I still don't get how us being in Iraq is increasing our liberties and
freedoms. Every indicator is pointing to the complete opposite.

I'm very glad you're back safe and I'm hoping that I'll get to say the
same thing when you get back next time. And keep up the good work
keeping the bikes rolling.

I had a couple of Redhook IPAs last night, unfortunately they're not the
best.

Greg

--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
 
Tom Carson wrote:
> "Sand Squid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> The point is; I'd rather play the "away game" so we never have to
>> expose our families to the "home game", again.
>>

>
> You are a tool, aren't you.


Do you mock the most well-crafted hammer in the world because it's
"merely" a tool? You don't sign on to the military to move & shake the
world, except as a tool. Making a point of this isn't constructive.

--
Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Paladin wrote:
> >
> > They also asked if there was any chance George Bush could continue his
> > advance and liberate their country, too.

>
> Welcome back, Clyde, and sorry to hear it's not for good.
>
> And also sorry to see that there are so many people willing to use your
> return as an opportunity to make cheap political points. You and others
> like you deserve better.



Well put, Corvus.

JD
 
Sand Squid wrote:
> The good news: I'm out of the sandbox !!!!!!!
> The bad news: I'm heading back out in for another tour in March.
>


Welcome back safe and sound. You are a hero!

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Sand Squid wrote:
> Shawn wrote:
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>>JD wrote:
>>
>>>Shawn wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sand Squid wrote:
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>>>>>When I was over there a Master Gunnery Sergeant (that would be a USMC
>>>>>E-9) and I were talking and he made a comment that I did not really
>>>>>entirely grasp untill I got home: "Freedom has a flavor the protected
>>>>>will never know." Now that I'm back, I get it.
>>>>
>>>>WTF is that supposed to mean?
>>>
>>>It means you need to walk a mile in another Man's shoes.

>>
>>I get the metaphor and all. My point was; them being over there is
>>making us less safe by the admission of the W House, so what's the point?

>
>
> The point is; I'd rather play the "away game" so we never have to
> expose our families to the "home game", again.


You need to read the news. Your away game (Iraq that is) is making it
less safe here at home. Sucks and it's not your fault. Not fair for
you and your comrades, or their families, but it is reality. I wish it
wasn't so. The war is making the US a less safe, less secure place and
fueling the growth of anti-American nut-case terrorist recruiting. All
the bravery and sacrifice of you and your fellows hasn't and will not
change that.
Just as Vietnam vets and families realized similar facts over time, you
probably will too. Trust me it is a terrible truth.

Shawn
 
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:37:58 -0700, Sand Squid wrote:

>
> The good news: I'm out of the sandbox !!!!!!! The bad news: I'm heading
> back out in for another tour in March.


Welcome back, for a brief while. :)

gabrielle
 
"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The problem not your opinion, but where you voiced it. Your hate makes
> you so blind, you *need* someone to slap it right out of you. It's
> obvious you don't care whom you **** your political opinions onto, or
> where you **** them. You should have welcomed John home and kept your
> political *****ing to yourself...for once.
>
> JD
>


You are a pathetic little thug
 
JD wrote:
>
> The problem not your opinion, but where you voiced it. Your hate makes
> you so blind, you *need* someone to slap it right out of you. It's
> obvious you don't care whom you **** your political opinions onto, or
> where you **** them. You should have welcomed John home and kept your
> political *****ing to yourself...for once.


Maybe yeah, at least for now.

Today my wife saw the bumper sticker that reads "If you're not enraged,
you're not paying attention." She said she can't live that angrily. I
said I can't tolerate a world that makes me that angry.
Some of that anger came out in Sand's (John's?) direction and I apologize.

If my dad had made it out of Vietnam alive he would've returned to the
states to a venomous welcome. That wasn't my intension.


Shawn
 
Sand Squid wrote:
> Shawn wrote:
> > JD wrote:
> > > Shawn wrote:
> > >>Sand Squid wrote:
> > >>>When I was over there a Master Gunnery Sergeant (that would be a USMC
> > >>>E-9) and I were talking and he made a comment that I did not really
> > >>>entirely grasp untill I got home: "Freedom has a flavor the protected
> > >>>will never know." Now that I'm back, I get it.
> > >>WTF is that supposed to mean?
> > > It means you need to walk a mile in another Man's shoes.

> >
> > I get the metaphor and all. My point was; them being over there is
> > making us less safe by the admission of the W House, so what's the point?

>
> The point is; I'd rather play the "away game" so we never have to
> expose our families to the "home game", again.


Exactamundo! Good response, but it's probably wasted on those who cover
their eys and adamantly refuse to see. So go take it to their
doorstep, so they can't bring it to mine, again. Just like the bumper
stickers on my two Toyotas say, "Land of the Free Because of the Brave.


CDB
 
JD wrote:
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> > And also sorry to see that there are so many people willing to use your
> > return as an opportunity to make cheap political points. You and others
> > like you deserve better.

>
> Well put, Corvus.


I include CDB in this. It's tragic and wrong to blame a soldier for the
sins of his masters. It's even more tragic to appropriate a soldier's
honor in the service of a lie.

CC
 
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:27:36 -0600, Shawn wrote:

> Today my wife saw the bumper sticker that reads "If you're not enraged,
> you're not paying attention." She said she can't live that angrily.


Amen to that.

> If my dad had made it out of Vietnam alive he would've returned to the
> states to a venomous welcome. That wasn't my intension.


Sorry about your dad, Shawn. One of my worries (of how many?) about this
"war" is that the soldiers get a similar reception when they come home.

Gah.

gabrielle
 
gabrielle wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:27:36 -0600, Shawn wrote:
>
>
>>Today my wife saw the bumper sticker that reads "If you're not enraged,
>>you're not paying attention." She said she can't live that angrily.

>
>
> Amen to that.
>
>
>>If my dad had made it out of Vietnam alive he would've returned to the
>>states to a venomous welcome. That wasn't my intension.

>
>
> Sorry about your dad, Shawn.


Thanks. It's part of my world. Remember the kids and spouses who are
now having to adjust to their new reality. Very sad.

One of my worries (of how many?) about this
> "war" is that the soldiers get a similar reception when they come home.


Don't tolerate it. Expose those who try. I think the nation has
matured, at least some, since Vietnam. I don't think it will be much of
a problem.


Shawn
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> JD wrote:
> >
> > > And also sorry to see that there are so many people willing to use your
> > > return as an opportunity to make cheap political points. You and others
> > > like you deserve better.

> >
> > Well put, Corvus.

>
> I include CDB in this. It's tragic and wrong to blame a soldier for the
> sins of his masters. It's even more tragic to appropriate a soldier's
> honor in the service of a lie.
>
> CC


You're wrong. He brought up the "smell of freedom." I commented on
that from a large group of folks who'd never smelled it before. I
stayed on topic. I didn't use his post as a soap box to slam him and
our country's leaders like a few jerks (I'm not referring to you).
Take a look, and I'll let you take it back without any penalty. How's
that? I'm tolerant.

CDB
 
gabrielle wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:27:36 -0600, Shawn wrote:
>
> > Today my wife saw the bumper sticker that reads "If you're not enraged,
> > you're not paying attention." She said she can't live that angrily.

>
> Amen to that.
>
> > If my dad had made it out of Vietnam alive he would've returned to the
> > states to a venomous welcome. That wasn't my intension.

>
> Sorry about your dad, Shawn. One of my worries (of how many?) about this
> "war" is that the soldiers get a similar reception when they come home.
>
> Gah.
>
> gabrielle


I can't speak for the rest of the country, but we have a Fighter Wing
over there from Mtn Home just south of here, and have contributed the
largest number of reservists from any state, from what I've heard, and
when troops come home, we put them on the news, throw parties, we've
had fundraisers for the families, that sort of thing. It is totally
different from the utterly shameful reception generally given our
soldiers returning from Viet Nam.

CDB
 
"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Sand Squid wrote:
>> The good news: I'm out of the sandbox !!!!!!!

>
>
> If'n you make it over to the Left Coast by chance, I'd like to buy you
> a beer...after riding bikes of course.
>

If that's Colorado, I'll do the same. JD probably drinks Coors Light like
the AF puke he was, but we've got real beer in Fort Collins. Welcome home.

Glenn D.
 
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:37:58 -0700, Sand Squid wrote:
> The good news: I'm out of the sandbox !!!!!!! The bad news: I'm heading
> back out in for another tour in March.


Welcome back, John. Glad to year you're OK.

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