On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:45:21 -0600, Tim McNamara
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>John Forrest Tomlinson <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:46:02 -0600, Tim McNamara
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>nor do I accept the implication that that brifters are better for
>>>everyone.
>>
>> I have repeatedly said that they are better overall (looking at the
>> whole cycling population).
>
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>> Tim, please stop trying to "win" this discussion by putting words in
>> my mouth.
>
>Except I am obviously not putting words in your mouth. "Everyone" is
>only a slight generalization of your position.
*Slight*? I've use words like "most", "majority", "widespread", "few"
and the phrase "six or nine out of ten."
Plus I have described explicitly at least three situations where
STI/Ergo may not be useful and other systems are a better choice,
You're either extremely sloppy in your understanding of language or
just being disengenous. Either way, it's lame.
If you want to quibble about what most means go ahead. If you want to
argue that, say, the situations of cost precluding some people from
getting STI is such a remote possiblity that it basically never
happens, go ahead.
But understand that "most" means "more than half but not all." . A
"few" means some small number but more than "none". "Everyone" means
"All people." Not "most people." It's not complicated so don't mix
these things up.
> You seem to allow that
> there are six or seven people
> for whom brifters are not ideal.
If you are suggesting I mean six or seven people out of the number of
participants in this thread, then perhaps we're in the ballpark. If
you mean six or seven out of all the people who buy or choose bikes
each month or year (in, say, the US -- many thousands of people), then
you're grossly exaggerating my positon. Orders of magnitude off.
If you want to set up a straw man to knock down, being more subtle
helps slip it by. But I thought you were above *winning* arguments.
JT
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