John B wrote: > > dkahn400 wrote: >>Really? I experience some kind of unprovoked assault or attempted >>assault from a motor vehicle about every 2 months on average. > > > You don't get out much then ;-) I'd have issue with the 'unprovoked' bit. Sure, there are stupid people doing dangerous things on a near daily basis, but unprovoked assault by someone who is acting to do you specific harm, rather than just undertaking a stupid manoeuvre as they make their way somewhere? I do decent commuting mileage (~40-50 miles a week, all in zone 2/3 west London) with the occasional longer ride into the Surrey Hills and I can't remember the last time someone actively tried to take an unprovoked shot at me. It has happened, just really, really infrequently. On the other hand, maybe that it's that word - "unprovoked". I see plenty of cyclists around whose style is going to annoy other people - and I don't just mean the red light runners and pavement artists. I mean those with decent gear, reasonable talent and all the attitude as they pile around urban areas like it is a race track - exactly the attitude that would make them *really* dangerous behind a wheel and could make them a target for irate oiks.