Benefit of LONG endurance rides

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  1. the holster

    the holster New Member

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    I wanted to know if there was any benefit to long 6-8hr days for elite athletes at a steady, easy speed or do they just kick you cause a lot of fatigue.
     
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  2. whoawhoa

    whoawhoa New Member

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    Check out the training benefits chart near the bottom of this page: http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com/levels.html

    I would say there is no benefit to long easy miles. An elite athlete probably has the ability to ride that far at a moderate pace, which would offer a lot more benefit in my mind.
     
  3. Dr.Hairybiker

    Dr.Hairybiker New Member

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    I would think that it depends upon what you call an elite athlete. I would definitely consider the ultra marathon crowd to be elite athletes, and they do 6-8 hours standing on their heads. Then again, they are not doing particularly "easy" miles. LSD doesn't stand for Long Slow Distance, it stands for Long Steady Distance.
     
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    I would say that 6+hrs at a recovery pace would not be much of a benefit. But if you ride at a brisk endurance pace, that would be much better for you. IMO there is a difference between recovery ride pace and endurance pace.
     
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    All depends on your objective. For a crit racer, whose events are typically one hour at high intensity, wouldn't think there is much value in 6-8 hour training rides. On the other hand, if you're training for fast centuries, doubles, brevets, or multi-day stage races, would say yes, there certainly is a benefit to riding 6-8 hours at a clip.

    In Lance's Performance Plan book, he says he does (did) endurance rides of 4-6 hours at 60-62% of max HR (120-124 bpm). Sounds too easy, but in the TdF his heartrate is probably in this range much of the time, so in fact he's training like he races.
     
  6. fergie

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    Not much.

    200-300km at 40kph now that's going to make you a man!

    Hamish Ferguson
    Cycling Coach
     
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    meandmybike New Member

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    There's an interview with Floyd Landis on the Cyclops website (somewhere in the Powertap section). When asked if he does any long slow rides within his training Floyd replies 'why would I do long slow rides? We don't have any long slow days in the Tour'.



    (Typo corrected in edit.)
     
  8. mises

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    The main benefit is you don't have to go back home for a long time. Sometimes that's worth more than any training benefit.
     
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    What floyd would do is long moderate distance training not necessarily 8 hours in the saddle "recovering" in a low gear at 26km/h.
     
  10. Adam-from-SLO

    Adam-from-SLO New Member

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    Not so sure about elite athetes (maybe if its strickly a recovery ride... but probably no longer then 3-4 hrs.).

    For the novice/begginner .... longer rides can help work out the kinks on the bike, get over those saddle sores, and get your body back into cycling mode. When I say longer rides..... slowly working up to 2hr .... 3hr..... 4hr. for most begginners / novice riders that are new to the sport/ or returning after not riding 1+ months , there must be some kind of progression of slowly working up the hours on the bike... after several weeks.
     
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