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Bob Flemming
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been fantasizing at the dark side now for some time now...
ok, i have ambitions to build a bent from old bike frames....not exactly revolutionary in itself,
but a big undertaking for me...
to begin with, two things:
1. wheelbase. from what I can ascertain there are two basic types of bent - the long wheel base
<LWB> holding steady to the road, but turning on a very large sixpence, and a short base <SWB>,
more commonly referred to as a bent 'racer', or a machine more designed for speed, but arguably
more difficult to control at speed?
My question here is: how 'steady' are the shorter wheel base machines? My inclination is towards a
'tourer type' machine, as this is my 'type' of cycling, but I would also like the option to 'give it
what I could' in terms of speed. When I look at designs, I feel more drawn to the type that has the
front wheel 'underneath' the legs as opposed to the front wheel 'leading' the bike, which is more
the 'racer' type design, eh?
2. Drive. What's the difference between front-wheel-drive and rear- wheel-drive. Just looking at the
basic design of a bent, all models of which have a common similarity in that rider is
'essentially' in a lying position as opposed to a 'butt-supported' position - this meaning that
the chainset is invariably in a frontal position on the bike, so why is not more common to make
bents 'front wheel drive' as opposed to rear wheel drive? What's the advantage of having rear
wheel drive with a chain stretching 6 feet to the drive wheel at he rear, when it could just
stretch 2 feet to the front?
3. Welding. I would envisage building this from older bike frames. It would appear that a mig welder
is the cheapest welder to buy, but I'm, getting mixed reports<reading Goog;e> about the
suitability of using mig welders for bike frames. As far as I can see, gas assisted migs are
better than 'wire flux' welders, giving a much cleaner and easier weld at the end of the day. Is
this true for bike frames? I cannot see using a welder for anything other than bike frame tubing
at the moment, so would a cheapo gasless mig be ok - providing I master the technique of welding
of course??? I'm only concerned about the strength of the weld, the beauty of the thing I can
forsake just now...for the times being anyway
The cheapo gasless welders claim a maximum mild steel weld to be 3-4mm....bascially ok for
bikes, yeah?
I'm really into this idea at the moment. Crazy it may be, and therapy I may need, but I'd still
appreciate any experience on these three points.
many thanks
bob <pipe-dreaming
ok, i have ambitions to build a bent from old bike frames....not exactly revolutionary in itself,
but a big undertaking for me...
to begin with, two things:
1. wheelbase. from what I can ascertain there are two basic types of bent - the long wheel base
<LWB> holding steady to the road, but turning on a very large sixpence, and a short base <SWB>,
more commonly referred to as a bent 'racer', or a machine more designed for speed, but arguably
more difficult to control at speed?
My question here is: how 'steady' are the shorter wheel base machines? My inclination is towards a
'tourer type' machine, as this is my 'type' of cycling, but I would also like the option to 'give it
what I could' in terms of speed. When I look at designs, I feel more drawn to the type that has the
front wheel 'underneath' the legs as opposed to the front wheel 'leading' the bike, which is more
the 'racer' type design, eh?
2. Drive. What's the difference between front-wheel-drive and rear- wheel-drive. Just looking at the
basic design of a bent, all models of which have a common similarity in that rider is
'essentially' in a lying position as opposed to a 'butt-supported' position - this meaning that
the chainset is invariably in a frontal position on the bike, so why is not more common to make
bents 'front wheel drive' as opposed to rear wheel drive? What's the advantage of having rear
wheel drive with a chain stretching 6 feet to the drive wheel at he rear, when it could just
stretch 2 feet to the front?
3. Welding. I would envisage building this from older bike frames. It would appear that a mig welder
is the cheapest welder to buy, but I'm, getting mixed reports<reading Goog;e> about the
suitability of using mig welders for bike frames. As far as I can see, gas assisted migs are
better than 'wire flux' welders, giving a much cleaner and easier weld at the end of the day. Is
this true for bike frames? I cannot see using a welder for anything other than bike frame tubing
at the moment, so would a cheapo gasless mig be ok - providing I master the technique of welding
of course??? I'm only concerned about the strength of the weld, the beauty of the thing I can
forsake just now...for the times being anyway
The cheapo gasless welders claim a maximum mild steel weld to be 3-4mm....bascially ok for
bikes, yeah?
I'm really into this idea at the moment. Crazy it may be, and therapy I may need, but I'd still
appreciate any experience on these three points.
many thanks
bob <pipe-dreaming