Best Bent for Bad Back

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  1. Ben Fox

    Ben Fox Guest

    I have had a bad back for years,gone through the nerve pain down the leg many times. I take naproxen
    2 times a day and no more leg pain. As far as bent riding ,I now ride a p-38 ,but have had many
    others and have never had any back pain on any of them. That's me of course and you're back may be
    different,but you're on the right track . Ben fox "mike s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] (Alan Mushnick) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more weight
    > > on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB Bachetta.
    > > Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a more supine
    > > postion? Alan Mushnick
    >
    > The one that comes to mind immediately is the RANS V2. The higher bottom bracket tends to have you
    > recline the seat back and the RANS seat can go back a long way. I have a bad back too and find
    > that the more laidback I am the less stress there is. My current steed is a Barcroft Virginia GT
    > which is designed to be laidback. Before that I rode a RANS V-Rex in a reclined position as well.
     


  2. Ben Fox

    Ben Fox Guest

    I have had a bad back for years,gone through the nerve pain down the leg many times. I take naproxen
    2 times a day and no more leg pain. As far as bent riding ,I now ride a p-38 ,but have had many
    others and have never had any back pain on any of them. That's me of course and you're back may be
    different,but you're on the right track . Ben fox "mike s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] (Alan Mushnick) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more weight
    > > on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB Bachetta.
    > > Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a more supine
    > > postion? Alan Mushnick
    >
    > The one that comes to mind immediately is the RANS V2. The higher bottom bracket tends to have you
    > recline the seat back and the RANS seat can go back a long way. I have a bad back too and find
    > that the more laidback I am the less stress there is. My current steed is a Barcroft Virginia GT
    > which is designed to be laidback. Before that I rode a RANS V-Rex in a reclined position as well.
     
  3. Gene Cosloy

    Gene Cosloy Guest

    "Ben Fox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I have had a bad back for years,gone through the nerve pain down the leg many times. I take
    > naproxen 2 times a day and no more leg pain.

    Ben--I think you should do some research on the long range effects of naproxen on the blood, joints
    and marrow in your body. Naproxen is a low dose variation of the older prescription only drug
    Naprosin, which clearly had such warnings about extended use. As for me I find the laid back postion
    (about 55 degrees) on my Burley Taiko to be about perfect. I can also ride road bikes bent the other
    way. What I can't do is stand up on the pedals and grip the bars and pull upwards on hills. that
    seems to lead to compression of the lumber region with subsequently painful results. I've had a
    little bit of discomfort with the more upright riding position of a Bike E and a Lightning Phantom.
    Overall, my experience suggests that overall conditioning and muscle tone probably helps more than
    all of the above. Good luck, we homo sapiens do have some inherent anatomical problems to get over.

    Gene Bike E NX, Burley Taiko, Vintage Frejus DF

    > As far as bent riding ,I now ride a p-38 ,but have had many others and have never had any back
    > pain on any of them. That's me of course and you're back may be different,but you're on the right
    > track . Ben fox "mike s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > [email protected] (Alan Mushnick) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    > > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more weight
    > > > on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB Bachetta.
    > > > Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a more supine
    > > > postion? Alan Mushnick
    > >
    > > The one that comes to mind immediately is the RANS V2. The higher bottom bracket tends to have
    > > you recline the seat back and the RANS seat can go back a long way. I have a bad back too and
    > > find that the more laidback I am the less stress there is. My current steed is a Barcroft
    > > Virginia GT which is designed to be laidback. Before that I rode a RANS V-Rex in a reclined
    > > position as well.
     
  4. Gene Cosloy

    Gene Cosloy Guest

    "Ben Fox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I have had a bad back for years,gone through the nerve pain down the leg many times. I take
    > naproxen 2 times a day and no more leg pain.

    Ben--I think you should do some research on the long range effects of naproxen on the blood, joints
    and marrow in your body. Naproxen is a low dose variation of the older prescription only drug
    Naprosin, which clearly had such warnings about extended use. As for me I find the laid back postion
    (about 55 degrees) on my Burley Taiko to be about perfect. I can also ride road bikes bent the other
    way. What I can't do is stand up on the pedals and grip the bars and pull upwards on hills. that
    seems to lead to compression of the lumber region with subsequently painful results. I've had a
    little bit of discomfort with the more upright riding position of a Bike E and a Lightning Phantom.
    Overall, my experience suggests that overall conditioning and muscle tone probably helps more than
    all of the above. Good luck, we homo sapiens do have some inherent anatomical problems to get over.

    Gene Bike E NX, Burley Taiko, Vintage Frejus DF

    > As far as bent riding ,I now ride a p-38 ,but have had many others and have never had any back
    > pain on any of them. That's me of course and you're back may be different,but you're on the right
    > track . Ben fox "mike s" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > [email protected] (Alan Mushnick) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    > > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more weight
    > > > on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB Bachetta.
    > > > Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a more supine
    > > > postion? Alan Mushnick
    > >
    > > The one that comes to mind immediately is the RANS V2. The higher bottom bracket tends to have
    > > you recline the seat back and the RANS seat can go back a long way. I have a bad back too and
    > > find that the more laidback I am the less stress there is. My current steed is a Barcroft
    > > Virginia GT which is designed to be laidback. Before that I rode a RANS V-Rex in a reclined
    > > position as well.
     
  5. >> > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    >> > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more
    >> > > weight on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB
    >> > > Bachetta. Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a
    >> > > more supine postion? Alan Mushnick

    Must it be LWB? Personally, I find my Baron a great relief for lower back pain: 30 minutes on the
    bike and it's gone for the rest of the day! Even when I can hardly walk or sit (only happened once
    so far, thank god), I can still ride the bike. I therefore tend to think it's best to get as
    laid-back as practical, and get the best-fitting seat; the latter may present a problem if there's
    nowhwere to try out a good number of bents... I never tried a mesh seat, but I would think a
    hardshell supports the back better (but a mesh seat is probably a less critical fit).

    Mark van Gorkom.
     
  6. >> > > I have a Tour Easy, and a herniated disc. Actually, riding doesn't seem to aggravate the pain
    >> > > going down my leg. I was wondering if a bent with a more supine position, allowing more
    >> > > weight on the upper back would be less stress on the lower spine. Something like a SWB
    >> > > Bachetta. Unfortunately there are no bent shops close to me. Are there any LWB bents with a
    >> > > more supine postion? Alan Mushnick

    Must it be LWB? Personally, I find my Baron a great relief for lower back pain: 30 minutes on the
    bike and it's gone for the rest of the day! Even when I can hardly walk or sit (only happened once
    so far, thank god), I can still ride the bike. I therefore tend to think it's best to get as
    laid-back as practical, and get the best-fitting seat; the latter may present a problem if there's
    nowhwere to try out a good number of bents... I never tried a mesh seat, but I would think a
    hardshell supports the back better (but a mesh seat is probably a less critical fit).

    Mark van Gorkom.
     
  7. Alan,

    If your Tour Easy is NOT giving you any pain, I would suggest to just stick with it. Maybe just
    recline the seat as much as you can. Adding suspension, to the front and rear would help. The
    Pantour hub would make an easy suspension add-on. I know they are costly, but not as much as a new
    bent. TE's are easy/simple to ride.

    SWB's like the Bachetta Strada, are more reclined but, you will have to deal with moving your feet
    higher up during start and stops, and alot more frequently than on a TE. I'm NOT saying this is a
    bad thing. I'm saying, it may not be easier on your back.

    This is just my opinion and not to offend anyone. I base it only with experience. I have a
    TE/clone/bodysock. I may not have a Strada, or an Aero but, I do have a similar bike, a dual 650c
    T-Bone. And BTW, I rode an Aero at Battle Mt. last year. It's kick ass!

    Safe Rides,

    Tony Licuanan Seattle, WA
     
  8. Bill Patterson wrote: ..
    > I am tickled with the M5 seat. Those Dutch guys have done some work on seat design. For me it is
    > good to lean as far back as possible and have suspension. I didn't do anything to the M5 seat.
    > Dian had her seat tilted forward and added extra foam to the upholstery.

    ..

    I think the seat is most important. It has to be the length and shape of your back. You always can
    look for a seat that matches your back and put that om your favored recumbent. A more reclined
    position of the seat wil spread the pressure on your back.

    regards, leendert.
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  9. Daybiker

    Daybiker Guest

    [email protected] (Tony Licuanan) wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    > Alan,
    >
    > If your Tour Easy is NOT giving you any pain, I would suggest to just stick with it. Maybe just
    > recline the seat as much as you can. Adding suspension, to the front and rear would help. The
    > Pantour hub would make an easy suspension add-on. I know they are costly, but not as much as a new
    > bent. TE's are easy/simple to ride.
    >
    > SWB's like the Bachetta Strada, are more reclined but, you will have to deal with moving your feet
    > higher up during start and stops, and alot more frequently than on a TE. I'm NOT saying this is a
    > bad thing. I'm saying, it may not be easier on your back This is just my opinion and not to offend
    > anyone. I base it only with experience. I have a TE/clone/bodysock. I may not have a Strada, or an
    > Aero but, I do have a similar bike, a dual 650c T-Bone. And BTW, I rode an Aero at Battle Mt. last
    > year. It's kick ass!
    >
    > Safe Rides,
    >
    > Tony Licuanan Seattle, WA

    I have a bad back that forced me off bikes for some time. I now ride a Vivo most of the time. It
    has a seat that reclines back a good bit. The suspension really smooths out the road. It's a hard
    bike to find to test ride, but it might be worth your time to try one. They were about $1400.00
    last time I looked. I have more expensive bikes, but none I like as much as I do the Vivo. It's
    been riden just under 3000 pain free miles since the middle of the summer.
     
  10. >Lots of times back problems are exacerbated by a abdomen that isn't in tone enough to put tension
    >on the front of the hip bones. In a healthy fit person, the hips are more level. As we get fat and
    >sloppy (that direction, I mean, since nobody in here is like that :), the abdomen relaxes, the hip
    >bones rotate down in front, the lumbar curve is exagerated, and any discs being pushed forward into
    >nerves or spinal cords have less support and more force squishing them in that direction.
    >
    >My point is that the better muscle tone provided by regular cycling will help most bad backs
    >(statistical support not available :)

    Well, the only significant muscles I ever had were in my legs (never done any sports; just walked
    and cycled a lot), but I do believe I'm developing some abdominal muscle tone from doing sit-up on
    the lowracer (to get a better view of intersections and the like), so there's hope for me yet!

    Mark -fairly skinny, and a bit fitter nowadays- van Gorkom.
     
  11. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:36:24 GMT, [email protected] (Mark van Gorkom) wrote:

    >Well, the only significant muscles I ever had were in my legs (never done any sports; just walked
    >and cycled a lot), but I do believe I'm developing some abdominal muscle tone from doing sit-up on
    >the lowracer (to get a better view of intersections and the like), so there's hope for me yet!

    Swap your office chair for a Swiss ball.

    Guy
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  12. >Swap your office chair for a Swiss ball.
    >
    Don't have an office chair: just stand on my hind feet all day, very glad to have a
    height-adjustable worktable, so I can at least stand up properly. I could swap my computer chair at
    home for one of those semi-recumbent hometrainers....

    Mark van Gorkom.
     
  13. Jack Black

    Jack Black Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    >
    >
    > >Swap your office chair for a Swiss ball.
    > >
    > Don't have an office chair: just stand on my hind feet all day, very glad to have a
    > height-adjustable worktable, so I can at least stand up properly. I could swap my computer chair
    > at home for one of those semi-recumbent hometrainers....
    >
    > Mark van Gorkom.
    >

    What do you think of the Humanscale Freedom chair? I've had one for four months now, and I find it
    to be the most back-friendly computer chair I've used.

    It was $869 at Sit4less.com, but I think it's worth every dollar.

    Jack
     
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