Best MTB tyre?
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I've come accros the irc mythos xc aswell. At first I though it was made in a "REDwall" edition, but I think this might be the same as some call "rustwall" which I've seen a picture of and that isn't red.<br />About the mythos I came accros a review where a guy sugested using 2 front tires and reversing the one used on the back. Is this something you by any chance have tried?<br />
I have had really good luck with Maxxis Larson Mimo tires for XC racing. I really like them and they perform well in all but slick conditions.
I picked up a pair of Hutchison air lights and rode the really hard last night and moist but packed ground conditions and they worked really well too.
Panaracer Fire Xc pro's - i raced these for about a 1 and a half and the seemed to perform well in all conditions but were heavy but they lasted a really long time. There build to handle snakebites and are about twice as durable as the other two mentioned above. This is probably the best trail tire I’ve ridden.
I picked up a pair of Hutchison air lights and rode the really hard last night and moist but packed ground conditions and they worked really well too.
Panaracer Fire Xc pro's - i raced these for about a 1 and a half and the seemed to perform well in all conditions but were heavy but they lasted a really long time. There build to handle snakebites and are about twice as durable as the other two mentioned above. This is probably the best trail tire I’ve ridden.
As I am new to the forum I might have posted in the wrong forum before so I'm going to repeat my question.
On my new bike I can chose between Maxxis Larsen TT UST and Hutchinson Python UST (both 2.0). I will use them mostly for XC and they should hold up for one ore two marathons (Lago di garda, Dolomiti SuperBike)
Tnx
Andrej
On my new bike I can chose between Maxxis Larsen TT UST and Hutchinson Python UST (both 2.0). I will use them mostly for XC and they should hold up for one ore two marathons (Lago di garda, Dolomiti SuperBike)
Tnx
Andrej
Firstly, Hi Xavier, why don't we see you answering MTB question over at the VN forum? (this is SamCZ here). This forum seems pretty strange I have to say, even more mis-information than at VN 
Ok, so to the question at hand. Different tyres perform better in different conditions. Those that work well in really muddy conditions, are not so good for loose dry conditions. What rolls quickly on hardpack dirt, will not be something you want to use for downhill racing. So reallly you need to tell a bit more about what kind of riding you do and in what sort of conditions before anyone can make a reasonable recommendation on tyres.
That said, I will try and break down a few categories and some favourites.
Sticky mud: Maxxis Swamp things / Conti cross country 1.5
Wet mud: Maxxis Mimo 1.85 / IRC Notos 1.85
Dry, reasonably smooth: Hutchinson Mosquito 1.85
Dry, loose and rough: Hutchinson Python
Mixed- road & dirt: WTB Allterrainasaurus 1.6 - these really are the best multi use tyre going.
There are a lot of good tyres out there, different types suit different riders, styles, conditions, and terrain. You just need to find the ones that are right for you. All anyone else can offer is advice, not "these are absolutely the best tyres for you"
Xavier is right about colors, they are for marketing only.
Ok, so to the question at hand. Different tyres perform better in different conditions. Those that work well in really muddy conditions, are not so good for loose dry conditions. What rolls quickly on hardpack dirt, will not be something you want to use for downhill racing. So reallly you need to tell a bit more about what kind of riding you do and in what sort of conditions before anyone can make a reasonable recommendation on tyres.
That said, I will try and break down a few categories and some favourites.
Sticky mud: Maxxis Swamp things / Conti cross country 1.5
Wet mud: Maxxis Mimo 1.85 / IRC Notos 1.85
Dry, reasonably smooth: Hutchinson Mosquito 1.85
Dry, loose and rough: Hutchinson Python
Mixed- road & dirt: WTB Allterrainasaurus 1.6 - these really are the best multi use tyre going.
There are a lot of good tyres out there, different types suit different riders, styles, conditions, and terrain. You just need to find the ones that are right for you. All anyone else can offer is advice, not "these are absolutely the best tyres for you"
Xavier is right about colors, they are for marketing only.
G'day Jalabert,
Michelin make a red coloured tyre called the Hot (I think) and I believe it more of a DH oriented tyre.
I reckon you should check out the Continental range of tyres. I currently run an Explorer 2.1 up front and Twister 1.95 out back and they've both been great for the conditions where I live (dusty, rocky, sandstone). I'm not sure what the conditions are like in your neighbourhood, but I think they'd make an excellent all round tyre.
If you're on the market for a new set of tyres you need to check out what sort of conditions you're going to use them in, how often and how you've treated your previous set and then try and match that criteria to a set of tyres. Having said that you may end up finding that you run one brand up front and another out back.
Ask your mates and see what they think of their tyres, ask around at various bike shops and then go for it. Don't worry about colour as it's just a marketing ploy.
All the best,
Buddha
Michelin make a red coloured tyre called the Hot (I think) and I believe it more of a DH oriented tyre.
I reckon you should check out the Continental range of tyres. I currently run an Explorer 2.1 up front and Twister 1.95 out back and they've both been great for the conditions where I live (dusty, rocky, sandstone). I'm not sure what the conditions are like in your neighbourhood, but I think they'd make an excellent all round tyre.
If you're on the market for a new set of tyres you need to check out what sort of conditions you're going to use them in, how often and how you've treated your previous set and then try and match that criteria to a set of tyres. Having said that you may end up finding that you run one brand up front and another out back.
Ask your mates and see what they think of their tyres, ask around at various bike shops and then go for it. Don't worry about colour as it's just a marketing ploy.
All the best,
Buddha
Allo,
I been trying to stay away from being really active in VN as it has caused me much problems in the past. You probably know. Some people there tend to like to flame and harrass me as I tend to be a 'public' figure. Here is a bit nicer and better monitored.
I have come to meet 3 people from VN and I was surprised to see they were all very much beginners with not much experience and making it seem they were experts. That made me think twice.
Anyways, good to see you are here.
Mis information? Where?
I been trying to stay away from being really active in VN as it has caused me much problems in the past. You probably know. Some people there tend to like to flame and harrass me as I tend to be a 'public' figure. Here is a bit nicer and better monitored.
I have come to meet 3 people from VN and I was surprised to see they were all very much beginners with not much experience and making it seem they were experts. That made me think twice.
Anyways, good to see you are here.
Mis information? Where?
What the hell is VN??
Yeah I agree about the coloured tyres - all eye candy really.
I find the Tioga DH tyres to be pretty good. They don't wear fast and grip pretty well on most surfaces. I've only come unstuck on a cement footpath but was an excercise in "how far can I lean at speed before they give" Answer - quite fast.
The roll-resistance is pretty good too for a knobbly.
Yeah I agree about the coloured tyres - all eye candy really.
I find the Tioga DH tyres to be pretty good. They don't wear fast and grip pretty well on most surfaces. I've only come unstuck on a cement footpath but was an excercise in "how far can I lean at speed before they give" Answer - quite fast.
The roll-resistance is pretty good too for a knobbly.
Hi,
I am using the Continental Vertical tyres for the 3 season by now. And they are great. Well, the only bad thing about them is, that I need one tyre on the back per season, because they are really soft. But they have an excellent grip.
Here is a link:
http://www.conti-online.com/generat...le/themes/tires/mtb/vertical/vertical_en.html
Greets from Melbourne
Chris
I am using the Continental Vertical tyres for the 3 season by now. And they are great. Well, the only bad thing about them is, that I need one tyre on the back per season, because they are really soft. But they have an excellent grip.
Here is a link:
http://www.conti-online.com/generat...le/themes/tires/mtb/vertical/vertical_en.html
Greets from Melbourne
Chris
Well it's been a while since I've been in here, and there seems to have been a bit more activity than before.
I know what you mean over there Xavier, but I thought that was all in the past, I'm pretty sure most over there appreciated you hanging around though. It's just that some people were a little over the top about any commercialism in messages, doesn't really bother me as long as it doesn't get out of hand.
Mis-information, I just saw a few dodgy sounding comments around, there are obviously a few young people in here, but that's fine with me, that's how we can learn right? Anyhow, sometimes it's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Sam
VN is VeloNews, they have a tech talk forum at velonews.com, not that much MTB stuff though.
I know what you mean over there Xavier, but I thought that was all in the past, I'm pretty sure most over there appreciated you hanging around though. It's just that some people were a little over the top about any commercialism in messages, doesn't really bother me as long as it doesn't get out of hand.
Mis-information, I just saw a few dodgy sounding comments around, there are obviously a few young people in here, but that's fine with me, that's how we can learn right? Anyhow, sometimes it's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Sam
VN is VeloNews, they have a tech talk forum at velonews.com, not that much MTB stuff though.
the tyres my bike came with were maxxis high roller type Rs and they were nice and light, fast rolling etc BUT
they had no cornering grip on even little bits of sand and they are hopeless in mud and on rocks
so noe i have a Ritchey Elevader on the rear and a Panaracer fire XC pro on the front
Its a much better combo and i felt the difference straight away
they had no cornering grip on even little bits of sand and they are hopeless in mud and on rocks
so noe i have a Ritchey Elevader on the rear and a Panaracer fire XC pro on the front
Its a much better combo and i felt the difference straight away
Cornholio said:
What _tread pattern_ Airlights? I have a Giant Yukon which came with Hut Airlight Scorpions. They are awful. Although I had read a lot of bad comments about them, I did not realise how bad they were until I invested in IRC Trail Bears based on good reports, and compared the ride. I ride gravel (deep, shallow and over sheet rock), packed earth and rocks. But I also wanted a GP tyre.Cornholio said:
So I and many others find the Trail Bears to be a good tire.
OP. Try http://www.mtbr.com/. While they are only opinions, and can vary wildly, you see a trend if there are a lot of comments. As someone said, it's up to you in the end. So take what you read here, but mtbreview seems to me to be the place for the widest view at your leisure.
The Panaracer Fire XC seem to be the winner with huge numbers of reviews and a high score, except there was quite a bit of comment about slow on roads. That did not suit me.
