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Best of the cheap handlheld LED flashlights?
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Chalo
Guest
[email protected] wrote:
>
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
I've been making and buying high-flux LED flashlights for a few years
now. The time has finally come where one can buy a really high
performing LED light for less than the cost of components to build
your own, and you don't have to be part of a secret society to find it
either.
Be warned that most of the commercial lights I have bought are junk.
Stick with ones that are know to offer decent quality and performance
for the price.
The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
bike.
Chalo
>
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
I've been making and buying high-flux LED flashlights for a few years
now. The time has finally come where one can buy a really high
performing LED light for less than the cost of components to build
your own, and you don't have to be part of a secret society to find it
either.
Be warned that most of the commercial lights I have bought are junk.
Stick with ones that are know to offer decent quality and performance
for the price.
The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
bike.
Chalo
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* * Chas
Guest
"Chalo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:37f58587-44fc-42b2-ae93-ac39d7918b2b@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> > good?
> >
> > Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
>
> I've been making and buying high-flux LED flashlights for a few years
> now. The time has finally come where one can buy a really high
> performing LED light for less than the cost of components to build
> your own, and you don't have to be part of a secret society to find it
> either.
>
> Be warned that most of the commercial lights I have bought are junk.
> Stick with ones that are know to offer decent quality and performance
> for the price.
>
> The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> bike.
>
> Chalo
Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
Chas.
news:37f58587-44fc-42b2-ae93-ac39d7918b2b@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> > good?
> >
> > Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
>
> I've been making and buying high-flux LED flashlights for a few years
> now. The time has finally come where one can buy a really high
> performing LED light for less than the cost of components to build
> your own, and you don't have to be part of a secret society to find it
> either.
>
> Be warned that most of the commercial lights I have bought are junk.
> Stick with ones that are know to offer decent quality and performance
> for the price.
>
> The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> bike.
>
> Chalo
Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
Chas.
M
Chalo <[email protected]> wrote:
>The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
>with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
>for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
>best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
>comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
>bike.
Ok thanks I will take a look at it at Lowe's
The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
'seemed" rugged.
Kind of crazy measuring light output in watts tho as it
SHOULD be measured in lumens I would think.
Anyway..... I'm wanting a good LED smallish
flashlight..... just not sure its worth the premium to
buy a high end ,model such as Surefire, etc. hence the
question abt what Walmart has.
>The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
>with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
>for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
>best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
>comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
>bike.
Ok thanks I will take a look at it at Lowe's
The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
'seemed" rugged.
Kind of crazy measuring light output in watts tho as it
SHOULD be measured in lumens I would think.
Anyway..... I'm wanting a good LED smallish
flashlight..... just not sure its worth the premium to
buy a high end ,model such as Surefire, etc. hence the
question abt what Walmart has.
M
"* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
HA!!
Funny!
>Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
HA!!
Funny!
R
richard
Guest
Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
Anyway, I bought one of these way back in July, but it's not been out of
the house since.
[email protected] wrote:
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
Anyway, I bought one of these way back in July, but it's not been out of
the house since.
[email protected] wrote:
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
C
Chalo
Guest
[email protected] wrote:
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> >The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> >with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's,
>
> Ok thanks I will take a look at it at Lowe's
That light comes in two varieties that are interchangeable from Lowe's
standpoint. One uses a Luxeon emitter and says so on the package.
The other one uses a Cree emitter and just says "60X brighter than
conventional LEDs" on the package. The latter is the one you want.
> The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
> 'seemed" rugged.
Almost all LED lights are rugged compared to their incandescent
counterparts. The internals are solid state, and the heat sinking
issues make it more likely that the bodies will be made of relatively
chunky aluminum.
> Kind of crazy measuring light output in watts tho as it
> SHOULD be measured in lumens I would think.
Yep. It's especially crazy since the "1W" and "3W" models are just
boasting of their LED's power ratings, not their actual power
consumption in the light. Thus there is a huge variation in output
among lights with the same nominal rating.
> Anyway..... I'm wanting a good LED smallish
> flashlight..... just not sure its worth the premium to
> buy a high end ,model such as Surefire, etc. hence the
> question abt what Walmart has.
In my experience and opinion, the high dollar lights offer better look
and feel, spare parts support, a meaningful warranty, etc. They do
not offer significantly performance than the best of today's
inexpensive lights.
Chalo
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> >The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> >with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's,
>
> Ok thanks I will take a look at it at Lowe's
That light comes in two varieties that are interchangeable from Lowe's
standpoint. One uses a Luxeon emitter and says so on the package.
The other one uses a Cree emitter and just says "60X brighter than
conventional LEDs" on the package. The latter is the one you want.
> The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
> 'seemed" rugged.
Almost all LED lights are rugged compared to their incandescent
counterparts. The internals are solid state, and the heat sinking
issues make it more likely that the bodies will be made of relatively
chunky aluminum.
> Kind of crazy measuring light output in watts tho as it
> SHOULD be measured in lumens I would think.
Yep. It's especially crazy since the "1W" and "3W" models are just
boasting of their LED's power ratings, not their actual power
consumption in the light. Thus there is a huge variation in output
among lights with the same nominal rating.
> Anyway..... I'm wanting a good LED smallish
> flashlight..... just not sure its worth the premium to
> buy a high end ,model such as Surefire, etc. hence the
> question abt what Walmart has.
In my experience and opinion, the high dollar lights offer better look
and feel, spare parts support, a meaningful warranty, etc. They do
not offer significantly performance than the best of today's
inexpensive lights.
Chalo
C
Chalo
Guest
richard wrote:
>
> Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
each.
Mag Instrument now sells 2 x AA and 3 x AA Mini Mag lights that use 3W
high flux LEDs. They are not quite as bright as the 2 x C Task Force
Light, and they cost a bit more, but they are good quality lights.
I choose not to do business with Mag Instrument anymore, because they
are in the habit of suing smaller competitors out of existence based
on bogus intellectual property claims (for instance, they claim it is
their exclusive right to print text encircling the bezel of a
flashlight).
Chalo
>
> Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
each.
Mag Instrument now sells 2 x AA and 3 x AA Mini Mag lights that use 3W
high flux LEDs. They are not quite as bright as the 2 x C Task Force
Light, and they cost a bit more, but they are good quality lights.
I choose not to do business with Mag Instrument anymore, because they
are in the habit of suing smaller competitors out of existence based
on bogus intellectual property claims (for instance, they claim it is
their exclusive right to print text encircling the bezel of a
flashlight).
Chalo
P
(PeteCresswell)
Guest
Per * * Chas:
>Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
Now *that* was funny.
But does it blend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_ZPhf1Bgw
--
PeteCresswell
>Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
Now *that* was funny.
But does it blend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_ZPhf1Bgw
--
PeteCresswell
R
On Jan 14, 12:24 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
http://nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html
On this webpage it talks about the Lowes flashlight mentioned by Chalo
and how to make sure you get the new CREE version. Also shows the
Fenix light. I have both the Lowes and Fenix. If getting the Fenix,
get it from a place that says it is the NON orange peel reflector.
The orange peel reflector is too wide, not narrow enough. Even for
flashlight use I think the orange peel reflector is too wide angle.
The Lowes is very narrow beam. Maybe too narrow for a flashlight.
> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> good?
>
> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
http://nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html
On this webpage it talks about the Lowes flashlight mentioned by Chalo
and how to make sure you get the new CREE version. Also shows the
Fenix light. I have both the Lowes and Fenix. If getting the Fenix,
get it from a place that says it is the NON orange peel reflector.
The orange peel reflector is too wide, not narrow enough. Even for
flashlight use I think the orange peel reflector is too wide angle.
The Lowes is very narrow beam. Maybe too narrow for a flashlight.
L
landotter
Guest
On Jan 14, 5:17 pm, Chalo <[email protected]> wrote:
> richard wrote:
>
> > Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> > field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> > that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
>
> Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
> each.
Yup. It's a total scam. It's enough to make the flashlight look lit,
but not enough to see by. I got the kit thinking, "how bad could it
be?" and the aswer was: worthless.
> richard wrote:
>
> > Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> > field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> > that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
>
> Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
> each.
Yup. It's a total scam. It's enough to make the flashlight look lit,
but not enough to see by. I got the kit thinking, "how bad could it
be?" and the aswer was: worthless.
C
Chalo
Guest
landotter wrote:
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> > richard wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> > > field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> > > that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
>
> > Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
> > each.
>
> Yup. It's a total scam. It's enough to make the flashlight look lit,
> but not enough to see by. I got the kit thinking, "how bad could it
> be?" and the aswer was: worthless.
It's worth pointing out that 5mm white LEDs vary wildly in output,
much more in my observation than high-flux LEDs. The best of them,
typically the top rated bins from Nichia, are putting out as much
light per watt as the best sort of high-flux LEDs from Lumileds, Cree,
and Seoul Semiconductor. The worst of them are barely better than
power indicators.
I have an Infinity Ultra Government model that has been in my pocket
every day for many years now. It has but one measly 5mm LED in it,
but it's a good quality Nichia model that throws a useful amount of
light and needs a new battery only once or twice a year or so. It's
the one I reach for when I need to peer down inside a hole in a
machined part or the like. I grab my newer Fenix L1T like it did my
Arc LS before it-- to look around a darkened room or out into the
shadows of outdoor spaces.
The best of the large-cluster 5mm LED flashlights are quite good.
Most of them are trash from the get-go.
Chalo
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> > richard wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking of WallyWorld (and I have yet to actually test this in the
> > > field), in their sporting goods section they had a cluster of 3 LEDs
> > > that replace the bulb and reflector in a Mini-MagLight (the two AA version).
>
> > Those use regular 5mm LEDs that are rated at less than 1/12 of a watt
> > each.
>
> Yup. It's a total scam. It's enough to make the flashlight look lit,
> but not enough to see by. I got the kit thinking, "how bad could it
> be?" and the aswer was: worthless.
It's worth pointing out that 5mm white LEDs vary wildly in output,
much more in my observation than high-flux LEDs. The best of them,
typically the top rated bins from Nichia, are putting out as much
light per watt as the best sort of high-flux LEDs from Lumileds, Cree,
and Seoul Semiconductor. The worst of them are barely better than
power indicators.
I have an Infinity Ultra Government model that has been in my pocket
every day for many years now. It has but one measly 5mm LED in it,
but it's a good quality Nichia model that throws a useful amount of
light and needs a new battery only once or twice a year or so. It's
the one I reach for when I need to peer down inside a hole in a
machined part or the like. I grab my newer Fenix L1T like it did my
Arc LS before it-- to look around a darkened room or out into the
shadows of outdoor spaces.
The best of the large-cluster 5mm LED flashlights are quite good.
Most of them are trash from the get-go.
Chalo
P
(PeteCresswell)
Guest
Per [email protected]:
>> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
>> good?
>>
>> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
What seems tb missing to me is focusability.
For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
Mag offers adjustable beam - but the lumens are way below 150.
OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
deal.
Anybody had a chance to compare?
--
PeteCresswell
>> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
>> good?
>>
>> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
What seems tb missing to me is focusability.
For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
Mag offers adjustable beam - but the lumens are way below 150.
OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
deal.
Anybody had a chance to compare?
--
PeteCresswell
C
Clive George
Guest
"(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
> light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
> deal.
>
> Anybody had a chance to compare?
Dunno, but I tried 2.4W and 6W bulbs while caving, and my eyes adjusted so
there wasn't as much difference as I'd hoped.
cheers,
clive
news:[email protected]...
> OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
> light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
> deal.
>
> Anybody had a chance to compare?
Dunno, but I tried 2.4W and 6W bulbs while caving, and my eyes adjusted so
there wasn't as much difference as I'd hoped.
cheers,
clive
P
Pat
Guest
">
> The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> bike.
>
> Chalo
I went there and bought one, and it didn't work! So, I took it back and now
I can't tell if their new ones have the Cree emitter. How can you tell?
Pat in TX
> The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> bike.
>
> Chalo
I went there and bought one, and it didn't work! So, I took it back and now
I can't tell if their new ones have the Cree emitter. How can you tell?
Pat in TX
C
Chalo
Guest
Pat wrote:
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> > The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> > with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> > for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> > best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> > comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> > bike.
>
> I went there and bought one, and it didn't work! So, I took it back and now
> I can't tell if their new ones have the Cree emitter. How can you tell?
The Lumileds one says "Luxeon" on the package; the Cree XR-E one says
"60X brighter..." on the package.
Chalo
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> > The best value I have yet found is the 2 x C cell Task Force LED light
> > with a Cree emitter. It costs $30 at Lowe's, and it blows away lights
> > for which I have paid $120 or more (and those I made by hand from the
> > best parts then available). Unlike previous flashlights with
> > comparable light output, it's a convenient size for mounting on a
> > bike.
>
> I went there and bought one, and it didn't work! So, I took it back and now
> I can't tell if their new ones have the Cree emitter. How can you tell?
The Lumileds one says "Luxeon" on the package; the Cree XR-E one says
"60X brighter..." on the package.
Chalo
C
Chalo
Guest
PeteCresswell wrote:
>
> For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
> than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
Lumen for lumen, you may be right, but...
I modded two otherwise identical cheap 'n crappy 2 x C cell "OnGuard"
halogen bike headlights with LEDs recently. One got an older ~40
lumen Cree emitter; the other got a Luxeon I side emitter that uses
the light's built-in reflector very effectively but puts out only
about 25-30 lumens. Because of the radically different distribution
patterns from the LEDs, the same reflector and lens in the lights puts
out a very different beam in each case. The Cree light throws a broad
even rectangular wash of light with a round hotspot in the middle.
The Luxeon side emitter light throws a strongly horizontal band of
light laced with lots of cobwebby-looking artifacts.
Adjusted appropriately, the Luxeon/OnGuard light throws almost all its
useful light on the road ahead and slightly to either side. That's
good, but there's no concentration of light on the center of the lane
where I tend to want to look for the most detail. The cutoff above
and below the band-like beam becomes a problem upon transient pitch
changes up or down, when the road ahead falls into shadow.
The Cree/OnGuard light, even though its wide beam with hotspot loses a
lot more light to less-useful corners of the viewing field, turns out
to be a lot more practical in general use. There's enough light cast
above, below, left, and right that things are still pretty visible
when the beam isn't pointing directly at them, and the hotspot is
sufficiently more intense than the "warm line" of the other light that
it allows me to see farther down the road.
In summary, when I made these lights I thought that spreading the
available light around just the area of most interest would be
preferable to the typical flashlight-like "spot and spill" pattern.
After actually using examples of these beams in otherwise very similar
lights, I find the opposite is true. A spot and spill light pattern
works very well to make the most of a marginal amount of
illumination.
Chalo
>
> For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
> than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
Lumen for lumen, you may be right, but...
I modded two otherwise identical cheap 'n crappy 2 x C cell "OnGuard"
halogen bike headlights with LEDs recently. One got an older ~40
lumen Cree emitter; the other got a Luxeon I side emitter that uses
the light's built-in reflector very effectively but puts out only
about 25-30 lumens. Because of the radically different distribution
patterns from the LEDs, the same reflector and lens in the lights puts
out a very different beam in each case. The Cree light throws a broad
even rectangular wash of light with a round hotspot in the middle.
The Luxeon side emitter light throws a strongly horizontal band of
light laced with lots of cobwebby-looking artifacts.
Adjusted appropriately, the Luxeon/OnGuard light throws almost all its
useful light on the road ahead and slightly to either side. That's
good, but there's no concentration of light on the center of the lane
where I tend to want to look for the most detail. The cutoff above
and below the band-like beam becomes a problem upon transient pitch
changes up or down, when the road ahead falls into shadow.
The Cree/OnGuard light, even though its wide beam with hotspot loses a
lot more light to less-useful corners of the viewing field, turns out
to be a lot more practical in general use. There's enough light cast
above, below, left, and right that things are still pretty visible
when the beam isn't pointing directly at them, and the hotspot is
sufficiently more intense than the "warm line" of the other light that
it allows me to see farther down the road.
In summary, when I made these lights I thought that spreading the
available light around just the area of most interest would be
preferable to the typical flashlight-like "spot and spill" pattern.
After actually using examples of these beams in otherwise very similar
lights, I find the opposite is true. A spot and spill light pattern
works very well to make the most of a marginal amount of
illumination.
Chalo
T
Tom Sherman
Guest
[email protected] wrote:
> ...
> The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
> 'seemed" rugged....
The name was "Ray-O-Vac" up to the early 1980's when the "Three Stooges"
[1] bought the company and changed the name to "Rayovac".
[1] We what peon employees called them when out of the earshot of middle
management.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth
> ...
> The RayOVac model in local Walmart cost abt $20 and
> 'seemed" rugged....
The name was "Ray-O-Vac" up to the early 1980's when the "Three Stooges"
[1] bought the company and changed the name to "Rayovac".
[1] We what peon employees called them when out of the earshot of middle
management.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth
C
* * Chas
Guest
"(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Per * * Chas:
> >Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
>
> Now *that* was funny.
>
>
> But does it blend?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_ZPhf1Bgw
> --
> PeteCresswell
I liked the last feature the best....
Chas.
news:[email protected]...
> Per * * Chas:
> >Why settle for just a flashlight when you can have much more....
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIOIM6hHBk
>
> Now *that* was funny.
>
>
> But does it blend?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F_ZPhf1Bgw
> --
> PeteCresswell
I liked the last feature the best....
Chas.
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On Jan 14, 8:46 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Per [email protected]:
>
> >> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> >> good?
>
> >> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
>
> What seems tb missing to me is focusability.
>
> For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
> than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
For very slow riding the very wide beam Fenix L2D would be OK. Its a
very wide beam but very short throw. Unless you go under 10 mph you
well over run it. The Lowes Taskforce light has a very narrow and
long throw. A bit better for riding. Maybe a bit too narrow.
Neither light is really ideal for bicycling.
>
> Mag offers adjustable beam - but the lumens are way below 150.
>
> OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
> light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
> deal.
>
> Anybody had a chance to compare?
> --
> PeteCresswell
> Per [email protected]:
>
> >> Are any of the LED flashlights sold at Walmart any
> >> good?
>
> >> Some are 3 watt units for abt $20
>
> What seems tb missing to me is focusability.
>
> For slow riding, I'd think a diffuse flood beam would be better
> than the spot that most lights seem to be made to deliver.
For very slow riding the very wide beam Fenix L2D would be OK. Its a
very wide beam but very short throw. Unless you go under 10 mph you
well over run it. The Lowes Taskforce light has a very narrow and
long throw. A bit better for riding. Maybe a bit too narrow.
Neither light is really ideal for bicycling.
>
> Mag offers adjustable beam - but the lumens are way below 150.
>
> OTOH, one of the pages said something about eyes reacting to
> light more on a log scale.... so maybe 80 vs 150 isn't a big
> deal.
>
> Anybody had a chance to compare?
> --
> PeteCresswell
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