Best rider spring 2004



Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 26 Apr 2004 19:38:35 -0800, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> > Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
> > classy to say it).

>
> There was some controversy in the papers, but on his website Dekker
> refuted any possible bad feelings between him and Boogerd. Quote: "It's
> all still a game." Sorry, too lazy (or busy actually) to translate all.


you've got to like de heer Dekker. He doesn't whine and he doesn't
make excuses, unlike Boogey.
 
"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
> > of the season so far?
> >
> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Tom Boonen
> > 3. Michael Boogerd

>
> The top two in that order. Not sure about Boogerd, as he hasn't actually

won
> a race this year. 2nd in Amstel, Liege and Brabantse Pijl ain't too bad,

but
> it's not the same as a win. Wesemann, Backstedt and Freire have all at

least
> won big races.
>
> Jeff
>


I would have put Wesemann ahead of Boonen. In addition to his big win, He
did hold the WC jersey for a few races.

-T
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

> now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
> of the season so far?
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Tom Boonen
> 3. Michael Boogerd


Taking an unbiased approach, based on number/quality of victories and
strong placings:

1. Davide Rebellin
2. Alejandro Valverde
3. Alessandro Petacchi
4. Jorg Jaksche
5. Erik Zabel
....
8. Lance Armstrong
....
10. Michael Boogerd
....
15342. Santiago Botero

-Sonarrat.
 
Sonarrat wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
>
>>now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
>>of the season so far?
>>
>>1. Davide Rebellin
>>2. Tom Boonen
>>3. Michael Boogerd

>
>
> Taking an unbiased approach, based on number/quality of victories and
> strong placings:
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Alejandro Valverde
> 3. Alessandro Petacchi
> 4. Jorg Jaksche
> 5. Erik Zabel
> ...
> 8. Lance Armstrong
> ...
> 10. Michael Boogerd
> ...
> 15342. Santiago Botero
>
> -Sonarrat.


Oh come on, Botero at 15342? There aren't that many pros known to the
UCI, are there? Besides, has he raced this spring? If T-mobile makes
him train seriously I expect to see quite the contender. The only
question in my mind is ... well ... he was erratic _and_ on Kelme. I
wonder who shows up this year, Mr. Jekyll or Dr. Hyde.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sonarrat wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
> >>of the season so far?
> >>
> >>1. Davide Rebellin
> >>2. Tom Boonen
> >>3. Michael Boogerd

> >
> >
> > Taking an unbiased approach, based on number/quality of victories and
> > strong placings:
> >
> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Alejandro Valverde
> > 3. Alessandro Petacchi
> > 4. Jorg Jaksche
> > 5. Erik Zabel
> > ...
> > 8. Lance Armstrong
> > ...
> > 10. Michael Boogerd
> > ...
> > 15342. Santiago Botero

>
> Oh come on, Botero at 15342? There aren't that many pros known to the
> UCI, are there? Besides, has he raced this spring?


Yes, but you wouldn't know it, would you? He was at Communidad
Valenciana in late February, where he gave a fair performance for 4
days, then lost 11:35 on the final flat stage. He went on to give a
listless performance in Paris-Nice; after Stage 5 he was 140th out of
148, and he dropped out the next day.

> If T-mobile makes
> him train seriously I expect to see quite the contender. The only
> question in my mind is ... well ... he was erratic _and_ on Kelme. I
> wonder who shows up this year, Mr. Jekyll or Dr. Hyde.


His morale seems to be gone, and he hasn't shown any signs of life since
joining Telekom... he certainly was not like this on the way to taking
4th place in the Tour less than two years ago. If he's going to have
any credibility and team support coming into the Tour, he'll need to
assert his superiority in no uncertain terms, and fast.

-Sonarrat.
 
Sonarrat <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> > now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
> > of the season so far?
> >
> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Tom Boonen
> > 3. Michael Boogerd

>
> Taking an unbiased approach, based on number/quality of victories and
> strong placings:
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Alejandro Valverde
> 3. Alessandro Petacchi
> 4. Jorg Jaksche
> 5. Erik Zabel
> ...
> 8. Lance Armstrong
> ...
> 10. Michael Boogerd
> ...
> 15342. Santiago Botero
>
> -Sonarrat.


and where is Tom Boonen?
 
[email protected] (Kenny) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Sonarrat <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
> >
> > > now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us, who's the man
> > > of the season so far?
> > >
> > > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > > 2. Tom Boonen
> > > 3. Michael Boogerd

> >
> > Taking an unbiased approach, based on number/quality of victories and
> > strong placings:
> >
> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Alejandro Valverde
> > 3. Alessandro Petacchi
> > 4. Jorg Jaksche
> > 5. Erik Zabel
> > ...
> > 8. Lance Armstrong
> > ...
> > 10. Michael Boogerd
> > ...
> > 15342. Santiago Botero
> >
> > -Sonarrat.

>
> and where is Tom Boonen?



Or Max van Heeswijk, for that matter.
1st 2 stages Ruta del Sol
1st 2 stages Murcia
1st Nokere Koerse
5th Milan-San Remo

Bummer about that smash-up at P-R
 
"Richard Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jeff Jones wrote:
>
> > "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:38:50 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> >>
> >>>If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably give Armstrong
> >>>a mention too (say in fourth place).
> >>
> >>What, before Jaksche and Valverde?

> >
> >
> > And Bettini, Zabel, Voigt, Menchov, Boogerd, Julich. I'd put them all in
> > fourth place :). Actually looking at the top 100 riders of 2004,

Armstrong
> > is 32nd so he probably shouldn't rate very highly in this poll, despite
> > winning a bunch sprint. Shows how important recent results are!
> >
> > I'm also pretty impressed with Jens Voigt, who I'd always considered a
> > strong rider but definitely not a climber, beating Armstrong to the top

of
> > Brasstown Bald on Saturday.

>
> Makes you wonder what Riis will make of that, huh?


Probably not a lot. How may hors catagory climbs were there before Bald
Mountain?
 

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