Best rider spring 2004

[Kenny]

now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
who's the man of the season so far?

1. Davide Rebellin
2. Tom Boonen
3. Michael Boogerd

 

[Davide Tosi]

[email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

>now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
>who's the man of the season so far?
>
>1. Davide Rebellin
>2. Tom Boonen
>3. Michael Boogerd

Boogerd won nothing, so he can't be there. I'd say:
1. Rebellin
2. Boonen
3. Wesemann

 

[Jeff Jones]

"Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
> who's the man of the season so far?
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Tom Boonen
> 3. Michael Boogerd

The top two in that order. Not sure about Boogerd, as he
hasn't actually won a race this year. 2nd in Amstel, Liege
and Brabantse Pijl ain't too bad, but it's not the same as a
win. Wesemann, Backstedt and Freire have all at least won
big races.

Jeff

 

[Robert Chung]

Kenny wondered:
> who's the man of the season so far?

Manzano

 

[Kenny]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
> > who's the man of the season so far?
> >
> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Tom Boonen
> > 3. Michael Boogerd
>
> The top two in that order. Not sure about Boogerd, as he
> hasn't actually won a race this year. 2nd in Amstel, Liege
> and Brabantse Pijl ain't too bad, but it's not the same as
> a win. Wesemann, Backstedt and Freire have all at least
> won big races.
>
> Jeff

yeah i know. but you have to admit he is really strong. And
he already riding at a high level since the E3 in Harelbeke
or even earlier. Freire and Backsted had two good days and
that's about it. Boogerd deserves better cause he has
allways an attractive way of racing. Pitty for him he's not
a PVP-like finisher.

 

[Boyd Speerschne]

[email protected] (Kenny) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
> who's the man of the season so far?
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Tom Boonen
> 3. Michael Boogerd

Chris Horner

 

[Kyle Legate]

Davide Tosi wrote:
> [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
>> now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
>> who's the man of the season so far?
>>
>> 1. Davide Rebellin
>> 2. Tom Boonen
>> 3. Michael Boogerd
>
> Boogerd won nothing, so he can't be there. I'd say:
> 1. Rebellin
> 2. Boonen
> 3. Wesemann
4. George!

 

[Jeff Jones]

"Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> yeah i know. but you have to admit he is really strong.
> And he already riding at a high level since the E3 in
> Harelbeke or even earlier. Freire and Backsted had two
> good days and that's about it. Boogerd deserves better
> cause he has allways an attractive way of racing. Pitty
> for him he's not a PVP-like finisher.

I admit he's really strong, and he's always there in the
finale. He definitely scores points for consistency and
aggressiveness. I'd put Freire in front of him though, based
on results.

If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably give
Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).

Jeff

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:38:50 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably
> give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).

What, before Jaksche and Valverde?

 

[Jeff Jones]

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:38:50 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
> > If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably
> > give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).
>
> What, before Jaksche and Valverde?

And Bettini, Zabel, Voigt, Menchov, Boogerd, Julich. I'd put
them all in fourth place . Actually looking at the top
100 riders of 2004, Armstrong is 32nd so he probably
shouldn't rate very highly in this poll, despite winning a
bunch sprint. Shows how important recent results are!

I'm also pretty impressed with Jens Voigt, who I'd always
considered a strong rider but definitely not a climber,
beating Armstrong to the top of Brasstown Bald on Saturday.

Jeff

 

[Benjamin Weiner]

Jeff Jones <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:
> "Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> > 1. Davide Rebellin
> > 2. Tom Boonen
> > 3. Michael Boogerd

> The top two in that order. Not sure about Boogerd, as he
> hasn't actually won a race this year. 2nd in Amstel, Liege
> and Brabantse Pijl ain't too bad, but it's not the same as
> a win. Wesemann, Backstedt and Freire have all at least
> won big races.

Boogerd for best domestique. I hope Rebellin at least sends
him a nice Christmas card.

Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
classy to say it).

 

[Richard Adams]

Jeff Jones wrote:

> "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:38:50 +1000, Jeff Jones wrote:
>>
>>>If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably
>>>give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).
>>
>>What, before Jaksche and Valverde?
>
>
> And Bettini, Zabel, Voigt, Menchov, Boogerd, Julich. I'd
> put them all in fourth place . Actually looking at the
> top 100 riders of 2004, Armstrong is 32nd so he probably
> shouldn't rate very highly in this poll, despite winning a
> bunch sprint. Shows how important recent results are!
>
> I'm also pretty impressed with Jens Voigt, who I'd always
> considered a strong rider but definitely not a climber,
> beating Armstrong to the top of Brasstown Bald on
> Saturday.

Makes you wonder what Riis will make of that, huh?

 

[Richard Adams]

Kenny wrote:

> now the first (classic) part of the season is behind us,
> who's the man of the season so far?
>
> 1. Davide Rebellin
> 2. Tom Boonen
> 3. Michael Boogerd

4. Phillip Thuaux

 

[Kenny]

Benjamin Weiner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<408dc7ab$1@darkstar>...

> Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
> classy to say it).

??? Come on, the guy came back from nowhere. He attacked
on the cipressa and finished top-10 in Flanders, Gold Race
and LBL. Now that's means much more than winning the tour
of Georgia.

 

[Kenny]

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably
> give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).
>
> Jeff

Huh?? what for? two 2.3 wins and that's it. Which is of
course great in comparison to Ullrich, but in comparison to
others that doesn't mean much.

 

[Jeff Jones]

"Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > If we were considering non-classics riders I'd probably
> > give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth place).
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Huh?? what for? two 2.3 wins and that's it. Which is of
> course great in comparison to Ullrich, but in comparison
> to others that doesn't mean much.

I agree (see other post). But you gotta admit he gets bonus
points for winning a bunch sprint

Jeff

 

[Benjamin Weiner]

Kenny <[email protected]> wrote:
> Benjamin Weiner <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<408dc7ab$1@darkstar>...

> > Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
> > classy to say it).

> ??? Come on, the guy came back from nowhere. He attacked
> on the cipressa and finished top-10 in Flanders, Gold Race
> and LBL. Now that's means much more than winning the tour
> of Georgia.

I mean, this is no slam on Dekker. Three times he was the
strong guy in the second group (okay, third group in
Amstel), but in Flanders the other guys had teammates up the
road and wouldn't work, and in Amstel and LBL, his teammate
was up the road and made a botch of it. I have to think that
if Erik had had just a bit more to get into the first
selection, that he would have taken out one of those races.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote:

> "Kenny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in
> > message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > > If we were considering non-classics riders I'd
> > > probably give Armstrong a mention too (say in fourth
> > > place).
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > Huh?? what for? two 2.3 wins and that's it. Which is of
> > course great in comparison to Ullrich, but in comparison
> > to others that doesn't mean much.
>
> I agree (see other post). But you gotta admit he gets
> bonus points for winning a bunch sprint
>
> Jeff

With a pretty good bike throw, too. Looked like he'd been
doing that one for years (heh).

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Can we call it a quagmire yet?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On 26 Apr 2004 19:38:35 -0800, Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
> classy to say it).

There was some controversy in the papers, but on his website
Dekker refuted any possible bad feelings between him and
Boogerd. Quote: "It's all still a game." Sorry, too lazy (or
busy actually) to translate all.

 

[Jim Gravity]

Benjamin Weiner <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<408dfdce$1@darkstar>...
> Kenny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Benjamin Weiner <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<408dc7ab$1@darkstar>...
>
> > > Dekker for Most Disappointed Guy in the World (but too
> > > classy to say it).
>
> > ??? Come on, the guy came back from nowhere. He attacked
> > on the cipressa and finished top-10 in Flanders, Gold
> > Race and LBL. Now that's means much more than winning
> > the tour of Georgia.
>
> I mean, this is no slam on Dekker. Three times he was the
> strong guy in the second group (okay, third group in
> Amstel), but in Flanders the other guys had teammates up
> the road and wouldn't work, and in Amstel and LBL, his
> teammate was up the road and made a botch of it. I have
> to think that if Erik had had just a bit more to get into
> the first selection, that he would have taken out one of
> those races.

Dekker is going to get what's coming to him. I bet two
tablespoonfuls of Vegemite that he wins one of those first
three Liegesque stages in the Tour this year, and earns the
yellow jersey in the process.