To be honest, I've never payed much attention to which brand of vulcanizing patch I'm using. I have tried Rema, which did well. But I've also used several of whatever-it-is that big department stores /sporting goods stores pack into their small flat.fixing boxes. You know, the ones about half the size of a cigarrette pack holding some patches, a square of sand paper, a tube of vulcanizing solution, and in Europe, often a couple of Dunlop valves.Originally Posted by Eichers
Hi dabac, the Rema red edge vulcanizing patches look really good. What are your thoughts on these or which ones would you recommend...
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One tip for preserving the solution is to keep solution tube in a very small ziplock bag. They make bags as small as 2-3cm square. In such a small bag, the vapor pressure of the volatiles in the solution equilibrates more quickly and thus adds a bit of time to the usefulness of the solution in the tube. There's little worse than getting a flat and finding that the solution in the tube has dried.dabac said:To be honest, I've never payed much attention to which brand of vulcanizing patch I'm using. I have tried Rema, which did well. But I've also used several of whatever-it-is that big department stores /sporting goods stores pack into their small flat.fixing boxes. You know, the ones about half the size of a cigarrette pack holding some patches, a square of sand paper, a tube of vulcanizing solution, and in Europe, often a couple of Dunlop valves. Last, out of sheer necessity, I used some positively vintage patches I found in a tool box I inherited from my grandfather. They seen to work too. To me the order of priority for a lasting repair is: - proper timing between applying the vulcanizing solution and the patch - prepping the surface well - use of fresh /properly stored vulcanizing compound Patches, I use what I have. If running low coincides with an order of bike parts, then I buy from "proper" bike parts vendors. If I'm caught out, anything goes.
Tube in Ziplock and Ziplock in the fridge, and the stuff will hold for years. Got hold of an almost toothpaste-sized tube years ago, and it's still working. It might have come from a Zodiac /inflatabe dinghy repair kit....Originally Posted by alienator
One tip for preserving the solution is to keep solution tube in a very small ziplock bag. They make bags as small as 2-3cm square. In such a small bag, the vapor pressure of the volatiles in the solution equilibrates more quickly and thus adds a bit of time to the usefulness of the solution in the tube. There's little worse than getting a flat and finding that the solution in the tube has dried.
I'm not dabac, but I have to say that Rema patches and cement are the shiznit, I've been using them for a little over a year and haven't had a failure yet. I hardly buy new tubes anymore.Originally Posted by Eichers
Hi dabac, the Rema red edge vulcanizing patches look really good. What are your thoughts on these or which ones would you recommend...
thanks KL
Do note that I'm not saying anything bad about Rema. I'll happily use them if I have them.Originally Posted by oldbobcat
I'm not dabac, but I have to say that Rema patches and cement are the shiznit, I've been using them for a little over a year and haven't had a failure yet. I hardly buy new tubes anymore.
Hi maydog, yes the 16mm round patches for the 18-28 tubes seem to be large enough and fit the tube nicely. I would only see the oval patches necessary for long tube cuts or perhaps using them on the inside of the tyre for long tyre cuts ...Originally Posted by maydog
The small patches in that kit are 25mm. The rema F0p are 16mm - that is a big difference. I have never had a need for the larger, oval patches.
Originally Posted by Eichers
Hi alfeng and CampagBob, I have been using Park Pre-Glued Super patches but I am finding that over time the glue loses it adhesive qualities.
I have been using them with butyl and Panaracer R-Air Tubes.
Any other suggestions...
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FWIW. I think that someone long ago figured out that the self adhesive tire patches are the patch of choice for latex rubber tubes, but that they are not so good (as everyone seems to have figured out) for butyl rubber tubes.Originally Posted by dabac
Self-adhesive patches are good for limp-home fixes when caught out by one flat more than the number of spare tires you've brought. But for permanent fixes, vulcanizing solution and proper patches(many like REMA) is the way to go.
Whether to replace a self-adhesive patch upon return to home as a matter of course, or to wait until it fails is entirely up to personal preferences. On a MTB, or any low-pressure tires they can last for years.
Hi alfeng, that's interesting. The R-Air, although not butyl, is still a rubber mix.Originally Posted by alfeng ... I think that someone long ago figured out that the self adhesive tire patches are the patch of choice for latex rubber tubes, but that they are not so good (as everyone seems to have figured out) for butyl rubber tubes.
FWIW. I have no direct knowledge of the R-Air tubes ...Originally Posted by Eichers
Hi alfeng, that's interesting. The R-Air, although not butyl, is still a rubber mix.
The real issue that I have noticed with self adhesive tube patches is that if more glue is necessary, well just that you can't apply more glue and sometimes the glue simply doesn't set (it stays all gooey).
Alfeng, have you used R-Air tubes? If yes, how would you compare them to butyl tubes?
thanks KL
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