Beth Got Married!

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> Good to hear that a voice of reason is still out there. Do you

still

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> have the big, white fluff-ball? (That was said in a tone of
> admiration.) I still think the dog was a better choice than Boytoy,
> but you didn't ask me.
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I have two fluffballs, one white and one grey and of course, they are

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my first loves. Boytoy is a distant fourth after my laptop and my

giro!

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Beth will soon learn that no man is ever a "boytoy". All men think the
world revolves around their own ego. Her fluffballs, her laptop and her

bike

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will soon be a distant memory as the "boytoy" takes over her life and
monopolizes it. She will find herself nothing but an adjunct to him not
matter how wimpy she thinks he is right now. That is the way it will go

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she will soon find herself out on the street all by her lonesome once

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And those streets there in Alaska are not fit for man nor beast as every
sensible person knows.

Since Boytoy and I have been happily cohabitating for seven years, I think
its unlikely I will learn much about him that I don't already know. Of
course, he is no wimp, or else I never would have married him. And I am
thrilled to hear you are staying far away from the streets in Alaska.

Is cohabitating a word?

Then do not be calling him your Boytoy for heaven's sake! I strongly
disapprove of cohabitation and women are crazy to put up with it. Most men
will leave you high and dry once they really get to know you, but being
married you will find has changed things even so. As a never married man and
never having had much to do with women, I am an expert on the subject.
Listen to me and you will never go wrong. I could have been a Catholic
priest and advised the rest of the world on how to live. Positively no
cohabitation! That is a super no brainer!

The only time you would ever find me in Alaska is in July and August. The
rest of the year it is not fit for man nor beast. It is too cold and dark.
Did you not know that far northern countries have the worst drinking problem
of anywhere in the world? There is a good reason for that. The damn climate
in places like Alaska are not fit for man nor beast.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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She needs more contraversy. (hi bill!)

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I think she means controversy. Does she purposely misspell quite simple
words or does she simply not know any better.

I am a computer programmer. We all spell for [censored].

I think you are right about that. I have known several computer programmers
and heavy computer users and their spelling and grammar are simply horrible.
I think what has happened is that you get quite bright people who get into
computers but they have no real broad education. This shows every time they
write something. That is too bad as it is the sort of thing that will hold
you back in life. Very few people in the top rungs of society are
illiterate. If they were not able to get an education from their parents,
they acquired one on their own. They knew it was priceless no matter what it
cost them in terms of time, effort and money.

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> Hi Beth,
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> Are you still riding the Giro and Gliss?
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> Tom Sherman - Quad City Area

Hi Tom!

I am desperately in love with my Giro and Boytoy has accepted the Gliss

as a

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wedding gift....well he had assumed it was his all along. My newer job
isnt' as simple to bike to - no shower and i need to look professional

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least most of the time, so I ride only recreationally.

How are things with you? Are you still a low-slung kind of rider? <vbg>

Beth,

Congrats and/or mazel tov on the wedding.

Good to hear that a voice of reason is still out there. Do you still
have the big, white fluff-ball? (That was said in a tone of
admiration.) I still think the dog was a better choice than Boytoy,
but you didn't ask me.

Ken

Hey Ken, you congratulate the male slob for having secured for himself a
partner to whom he can more or less gain some sexual access every now and
then, but you give your best wishes to the bride for her illusion that she
will be able to put up with this male slob and maybe get what she really
wants in life - which is children (and not a male slob in her life).

No one here knows or cares what mazel tov means except for all those retired
Jewish types who are living in Florida, the land of permanent high humidity.
Can anyone live there without air conditioning? I thought not!

But I think Beth lives in Alaska with the Eskimos which is even worse! It is
cold and dark there and only those who can't make it in more civilized
climes end up in places like that. How do you think the Eskimo ended up
there? They are the world's greatest losers in the lottery of life. Even the
American Indian, when he migrated to the New World across the Bering Strait
from Siberia, had enough sense not to settle down in another Siberia.

As I said before, you just drag all sorts of things into the mix, sex,
Floridians, Eskimos, Jewish types, to try to start a flame war. At
least this time you didn't call me some sort of liberal. Since you
now know that doesn't work, you'll try a different tack.

Well Ed Dolan, I have a job and a life. May I wish you the chance to
find one or both.

And one more thing: I don't fee trolls.

Ken

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> > Old a.r.b.r.'s of the male persuasion, cry your eyes out: our

Alaskan

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> > bent beauty finally tied the knot with Toyboy, a few months ago.

Big

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> > dress, big wedding, both dogs participated (I saw pix). She may

have

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> > faded away from this newsgroup but she is still active in others.

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> > still gets out a bit on her recumbent.
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> Hi CArol. Sounds like you and Beth still keep in touch.Any idea why
> she no longer visits A.R.B.R?
> Bill [Coffee?]

She needs more contraversy. (hi bill!)

I think she means controversy. Does she purposely misspell quite simple
words or does she simply not know any better.

I am a computer programmer. We all spell for [censored].

Yo Beth,

A belated but heartfelt congratulations. You Go Girl.

Joe Recumbo

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> Oh, honey, you really are delusional aren't you? You CAN'T hurt me.

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> are simply some little black and white marks on my monitor! Thanks

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> playing though!

Beth is reacting emotionally like all women do.

What exactly is emotional about that post? Please be specific.

You have responded with your feelings and gone to the heart of the problem
instead of with your intellect and gone to the periphery of the problem. I
am assuming you do know the difference, i.e. to say, between the heart and
the periphery.

Obviously, you are a study in selective reading. "Please Be Specific" means
that you need to identify what in my response was emotional. You haven't
done so. Please try again.

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Now you all know why I have never waste my intellect on women. There

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just

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nothing there to rebound against. They are always permanently taking a
powder and are totally unable to connect with anything having to do

with

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mind. Oh well, we all know what women are good for, don't we?

LOL, trying to divert attention from your claims that you can "hurt"

people

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on usenet, aren't you?
I'm an old hand at this, Eddie, it will take more than just a bait and
switch to get me going!

I take it for granted that you value your reputation. When most other

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in life have left us (wealth, health and sanity) we still have our
reputations to fall back on. If I wanted to hurt your reputation here on
ARBR (and drag you down to my level) based on things I already know about
you from your posting and what others have said about you on ARBR, I could
do so. But you are dealing with one of this world's most stellar

gentleman,

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and I would never dream of doing such a thing - unless you provoke it by

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being a lady.

Quite clearly from your previous posts to my friends here, you are NO
gentleman.

I am not a "lady" either, but a woman.

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Men do not really like tramps despite outward appearances. We men value
ladies above all else in life. You women are what give meaning to our

lives

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for the most part. Of course, I am as always the exception there too, as I
do not need women for a feeling of self worth. But most men are not up to

my

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high standards and are pretty much at sea as to what they should be doing

in

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life if not living with a woman for the purpose of creating new life. I

KNOW

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the universe begins and ends with me, so why all this concern with
reproduction?

There you go, Eddie, with your delusions of grandeur! Looking forward to
your demonstration of my emotional reaction!

Dear Bethy, please don't go easy on our favorite schmekella, but warn us
when you unleash the MOM weapon. Most of will want to duckand cover. Oh
Eddy, I think you're eventually in for a huge dose of jewish mother guilt.
You poor putz, you.
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Dear ARBR's,
Please excuse me while I play with your troll. In order for you to

continue

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to ignore your little troll, I will be posting [Delusional Doland] in the
subject line of each of my messages!! I hope that you all can forgive me

for

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giving into temptation.

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Oh, honey, you really are delusional aren't you? You CAN'T hurt me.

You

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are simply some little black and white marks on my monitor! Thanks

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playing though!

Beth is reacting emotionally like all women do.

What exactly is emotional about that post? Please be specific.

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Now you all know why I have never waste my intellect on women. There is

just

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nothing there to rebound against. They are always permanently taking a
powder and are totally unable to connect with anything having to do with

the

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mind. Oh well, we all know what women are good for, don't we?

LOL, trying to divert attention from your claims that you can "hurt"

people

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on usenet, aren't you?
I'm an old hand at this, Eddie, it will take more than just a bait and
switch to get me going!

Dear Ed, you're really [censored] now! See top post to learn just how [censored].

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> She needs more contraversy. (hi bill!)

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I think she means controversy. Does she purposely misspell quite

simple

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words or does she simply not know any better.

I am a computer programmer. We all spell for [censored].

I think you are right about that. I have known several computer

programmers

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and heavy computer users and their spelling and grammar are simply

horrible.

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I think what has happened is that you get quite bright people who get into
computers but they have no real broad education. This shows every time

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write something. That is too bad as it is the sort of thing that will hold
you back in life. Very few people in the top rungs of society are
illiterate. If they were not able to get an education from their parents,
they acquired one on their own. They knew it was priceless no matter what

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cost them in terms of time, effort and money.

Evidentally, you don't know much about smart people, Eddie. Some people
excel in english, and grammar. Some people excel at art. Some people excel
at math and engineering. Its expected that a genius at mathematics isn't
going to be a genius at english. Doesn't make that mathematician any less
smart. In my field, people are smart at math and logic. Spelling in
english is in no way a logical endeavour.

Hope that helps!!

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Yo Beth,

A belated but heartfelt congratulations. You Go Girl.

Joe Recumbo

Hi Joe!!!!

How are things?

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Hi Beth. Even I come out of the wood work when you show up. I'm happy
for you getting married. I miss you here. It was never the same once
you abandoned us to the Boytoy and the Dawgs.

Cletus! It wasn't boytoy - or the dawgs. It was the new job. Its not a
job i can coast at. I have to play politics and go to meetings and wear
pantyhose and stuff. Blech.

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And then all went to Hell when Ed showed up. Play with him if you want
but I assure you that you will soon tire of his drivel.

I bet you Ed is someone we all know from our past life under a new nym.
Willing to bet my tax refund on it.

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There are interesting recumbent discussions at BentRider Online Forum.
If you want some meaningful Conversation.

Some drivel would be nice too.

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Last Summer I took the Voyager to Denmark where I actually met real
recumbent people from this list. Sadly, they too have departed for the
lack of relevant topic here.

I assume there are pictures online....where?
Did you get to meet....what was his name - one of my favorite guys here -
from Denmark i think, but with incredible english???

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Please note the newest addition to my sig line.

You got a GIRO and an AERO! Which do you ride when?

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Love ya!
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> > Oh, honey, you really are delusional aren't you? You CAN'T hurt

me.

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What exactly is emotional about that post? Please be specific.

You have responded with your feelings and gone to the heart of the

problem

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instead of with your intellect and gone to the periphery of the problem.

I

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am assuming you do know the difference, i.e. to say, between the heart

and

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the periphery.

Obviously, you are a study in selective reading. "Please Be Specific"

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that you need to identify what in my response was emotional. You haven't
done so. Please try again.

You have not included enough of my post to which you were responding.
Therefore, I cannot be specific. Please post properly - and this means
editing properly. Normally, I do not require any editing as everything I say
is closely tied together and I know when to begin saying something and when
to stop saying something - never too much and never too little. The rest of
you could learn a great deal about how to post from closely observing and
copying me.

One other thing: I never go back and look up anything. If it isn't in the
present post to which I am responding, then it is lost forever as far as I
am concerned. Hence, the importance of including enough in your post so that
all the ground can be covered adequately.

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> Now you all know why I have never waste my intellect on women. There

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> powder and are totally unable to connect with anything having to do

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people

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on usenet, aren't you?
I'm an old hand at this, Eddie, it will take more than just a bait and
switch to get me going!

I take it for granted that you value your reputation. When most other

things

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in life have left us (wealth, health and sanity) we still have our
reputations to fall back on. If I wanted to hurt your reputation here on
ARBR (and drag you down to my level) based on things I already know

about

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you from your posting and what others have said about you on ARBR, I

could

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do so. But you are dealing with one of this world's most stellar

gentleman,

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and I would never dream of doing such a thing - unless you provoke it by

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being a lady.

Quite clearly from your previous posts to my friends here, you are NO
gentleman.

I am not a "lady" either, but a woman.

I treat other men with the contempt they deserve because I thoroughly
understand them. I do not think you are much of a lady either, but you can
work on that. A woman who is not a lady is less than a woman. There are many
other names I can use to describe such women, but I do not believe you will
want to hear them.

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Men do not really like tramps despite outward appearances. We men value
ladies above all else in life. You women are what give meaning to our

lives

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for the most part. Of course, I am as always the exception there too, as

I

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do not need women for a feeling of self worth. But most men are not up

to

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high standards and are pretty much at sea as to what they should be

doing

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life if not living with a woman for the purpose of creating new life. I

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the universe begins and ends with me, so why all this concern with
reproduction?

There you go, Eddie, with your delusions of grandeur! Looking forward to
your demonstration of my emotional reaction!

Learn how to post properly and all things are possible.

Also, you need to learn how to think a bit more deeply too if we are to have
a conversation that goes anywhere. Among my "delusions" are buried pearls of
wisdom which I give way for free.

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Since Boytoy and I have been happily cohabitating for seven years, I

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its unlikely I will learn much about him that I don't already know. Of
course, he is no wimp, or else I never would have married him. And I am
thrilled to hear you are staying far away from the streets in Alaska.

Is cohabitating a word?

You are apparently the worlds expert on english grammar and spelling, so you
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Then do not be calling him your Boytoy for heaven's sake! I strongly
disapprove of cohabitation and women are crazy to put up with it. Most men
will leave you high and dry once they really get to know you, but being
married you will find has changed things even so. As a never married man

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never having had much to do with women, I am an expert on the subject.
Listen to me and you will never go wrong. I could have been a Catholic
priest and advised the rest of the world on how to live. Positively no
cohabitation! That is a super no brainer!

Well, now Ed, that was actually really funny. I have always found the idea
of catholic priests giving pre-marital counseling absolutely absurd. But we
didn't do any of that, and I assure you nothing has changed, except that i
have to file my taxes differently and my health insurance has improved. The
"Boytoy" is a long standing joke between he and I - anyone who knows me for
longer than five minutes knows that I have plenty of respect for him.

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The only time you would ever find me in Alaska is in July and August. The
rest of the year it is not fit for man nor beast. It is too cold and dark.
Did you not know that far northern countries have the worst drinking

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of anywhere in the world? There is a good reason for that. The damn

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in places like Alaska are not fit for man nor beast.

July and August are our rainy summer months. May and June are the nicest
weather with the most light - its starting to get darker again now. Kind of
sad to see summer fading away like that, but its nice to be able to sleep.

Yes, our state has a terrible alcohol problem. But I love it up here, even
in winter! I skijor with the dogs, and enjoy the snow. Its beautiful in
the winter and not as cold as most people think. At least not in Anchorage,
which we call the "banana belt" of Alaska due to the mild winter
temperatures.

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I have two fluffballs, one white and one grey and of course, they are

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my first loves. Boytoy is a distant fourth after my laptop and my giro!

Psssst, Beth, that makes Boytoy the fifth love, not fourth. Seems
that somebody hasn't been getting much sleep lately and it's effecting
her mental processes.

Since I can't put one fluffball over the other (no favorites!) we consider
them the first love of my life together.

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Carol. I did not converse that much with Beth (if at all) but given
the annoncement if you do talk to her tell her and ToyBoy that I wish
them the best in their future and may they have many happy days out on
the trails. No heart broken here or need to shed tears. I already have
the dream woman of my life and she doesn't even ride a bike.

one word, Dom: TANDEM

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Dear Bethy, please don't go easy on our favorite schmekella, but warn us
when you unleash the MOM weapon. Most of will want to duckand cover. Oh
Eddy, I think you're eventually in for a huge dose of jewish mother guilt.
You poor putz, you.

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No Harv, unlike you and many of the other poor slobs inhabiting this
newsgroup, otherwise known as ARBR, I have more than enough intelligence to
deal with all exigencies - including Jewish females who have decided for
reasons of their own to live in a god forsaken wasteland like Alaska. I did
not spend many years in New York for nothing. Beth will soon take a powder
and be gone, but you and I will be here until hell freezes over.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Hey Ken, you congratulate the male slob for having secured for himself a
partner to whom he can more or less gain some sexual access every now

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then, but you give your best wishes to the bride for her illusion that

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will be able to put up with this male slob and maybe get what she really
wants in life - which is children (and not a male slob in her life).

No one here knows or cares what mazel tov means except for all those

retired

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Can anyone live there without air conditioning? I thought not!

But I think Beth lives in Alaska with the Eskimos which is even worse!

It is

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cold and dark there and only those who can't make it in more civilized
climes end up in places like that. How do you think the Eskimo ended up
there? They are the world's greatest losers in the lottery of life. Even

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American Indian, when he migrated to the New World across the Bering

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from Siberia, had enough sense not to settle down in another Siberia.

As I said before, you just drag all sorts of things into the mix, sex,
Floridians, Eskimos, Jewish types, to try to start a flame war. At
least this time you didn't call me some sort of liberal. Since you
now know that doesn't work, you'll try a different tack.

Well Ed Dolan, I have a job and a life. May I wish you the chance to
find one or both.

And one more thing: I don't fee trolls.

I think you mean you do not FEED trolls. I have never asked for any pay for
my services to this newsgroup.

But Ken, notice how one thought leads to another and how they all somehow
hang together. That is the secret to us geniuses. We know about flow, ebb
and tide, and mostly just how to say something that might be of interest to
the casual reader (which I assume we all are). Why don't you try it sometime
yourself. It is not hard. All you have to do is put your brain into gear and
give it free reign. Sometimes a bit of vino will help you overcome any
inhibitions you might have. I don't know about you, but I am here to have
some fun.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Dear Bethy, please don't go easy on our favorite schmekella, but warn us
when you unleash the MOM weapon. Most of will want to duckand cover. Oh
Eddy, I think you're eventually in for a huge dose of jewish mother guilt.
You poor putz, you.

HAH! And I thought it was jewish princess [censored]! You want to see
guilt, I will introduce you to Grandma Mollie.

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> Old a.r.b.r.'s of the male persuasion, cry your eyes out: our

Alaskan

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> bent beauty finally tied the knot with Toyboy, a few months ago.

Big

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> dress, big wedding, both dogs participated (I saw pix). She may

have

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> faded away from this newsgroup but she is still active in others.

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> still gets out a bit on her recumbent.
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Hi CArol. Sounds like you and Beth still keep in touch.Any idea why
she no longer visits A.R.B.R?
Bill [Coffee?]

She needs more contraversy. (hi bill!)

Hi Beth. Even I come out of the wood work when you show up. I'm happy
for you getting married. I miss you here. It was never the same once
you abandoned us to the Boytoy and the Dawgs.

And then all went to Hell when Ed showed up. Play with him if you want
but I assure you that you will soon tire of his drivel.

Don't listen to this [censored] Beth. He continues to bad mouth me even though
he has kill filed me and no longer knows what I am saying. Cletus never got
over the fact that I thought he was a disgusting personality from the get
go. He is not use to being disliked for himself alone (unlike me). Well, not
everyone is going to like everyone - that is an iron law of life. The sooner
we learn it, the better off we will be.

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There are interesting recumbent discussions at BentRider Online Forum.
If you want some meaningful Conversation.

It is moderated bulletin board by one of the biggest liberal [censored] ever
to infest ARBR, Mr. Bryan Ball. He thought it was perfectly fine for
liberals to post their disgusting rants on ARBR because the group was mostly
liberal and that we conservative types could just leave if we didn't like
it. You can just imagine how well that set with me!

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Last Summer I took the Voyager to Denmark where I actually met real
recumbent people from this list. Sadly, they too have departed for the
lack of relevant topic here.

Those Danish slobs were all liberal [censored] too. Moreover they never posted
anything remotely worth reading - just little asides and nasty remarks which
stunk up everything. Screw them!

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Please note the newest addition to my sig line.

Love ya!
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Cletus
Bacchetta Aero-Basso
Bacchetta Giro
Lightning Voyager
http://www.clee.org
- Bellaire, TX USA -

I see that Cletus just gets one kind of bike over and over. But he is an
anal personality, so it does make some sense in a perverse sort of way. The
one thing all those bikes have in common is that they are outrageously
expensive. Cletus is a big spender from Texas. Hey Ma! Look! No Brains!

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Since Boytoy and I have been happily cohabitating for seven years, I

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its unlikely I will learn much about him that I don't already know.

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course, he is no wimp, or else I never would have married him. And I

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thrilled to hear you are staying far away from the streets in Alaska.

Is cohabitating a word?

You are apparently the worlds expert on english grammar and spelling, so

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tell me.

Beth should have written it thus:

You are apparently the world's expert on English grammar and spelling, so
you tell me.

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Is cohabitating a word?

It is not in the dictionaries. But I sometimes make up words too, so it is
not a cardinal sin. However, whenever one does this sort of thing one should
at least be aware of what one is doing.

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Then do not be calling him your Boytoy for heaven's sake! I strongly
disapprove of cohabitation and women are crazy to put up with it. Most

men

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will leave you high and dry once they really get to know you, but being
married you will find has changed things even so. As a never married man

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never having had much to do with women, I am an expert on the subject.
Listen to me and you will never go wrong. I could have been a Catholic
priest and advised the rest of the world on how to live. Positively no
cohabitation! That is a super no brainer!

Well, now Ed, that was actually really funny. I have always found the

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of catholic priests giving pre-marital counseling absolutely absurd. But

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didn't do any of that, and I assure you nothing has changed, except that i
have to file my taxes differently and my health insurance has improved.

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"Boytoy" is a long standing joke between he and I - anyone who knows me

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longer than five minutes knows that I have plenty of respect for him.

You should not be using a personal expression of endearment like that for
someone on a newsgroup. Others can get a completely wrong idea about you.

The Catholic priests who give pre-marital advice are getting that advice
from Church teaching which has a couple of thousand years of experience to
fall back on. There is absolutely nothing absurd about it unless you are
under the impression that only those who have direct personal experience of
something can instruct and teach on a subject (shades of Larry Varney!).

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The only time you would ever find me in Alaska is in July and August.

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rest of the year it is not fit for man nor beast. It is too cold and

dark.

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Did you not know that far northern countries have the worst drinking

problem

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of anywhere in the world? There is a good reason for that. The damn

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in places like Alaska are not fit for man nor beast.

July and August are our rainy summer months. May and June are the nicest
weather with the most light - its starting to get darker again now. Kind

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sad to see summer fading away like that, but its nice to be able to sleep.

Yes, our state has a terrible alcohol problem. But I love it up here,

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in winter! I skijor with the dogs, and enjoy the snow. Its beautiful in
the winter and not as cold as most people think. At least not in

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which we call the "banana belt" of Alaska due to the mild winter
temperatures.

Canada and Russia have a terrible alcohol problem. It is no use pretending
that it does not relate to climate and how marginal it is for human
habitation.

I think I would still prefer July and August in Alaska provided those months
were the warmest. Minnesota has one of the worst climates in the lower 48 as
far as I am concerned. I hate cold and snow with a passion. There is nothing
I want to do on the outside in the winter, so I mostly stay inside as much
as possible. I really don't think too many people enjoy winter. It is too
late for me to leave Minnesota now, but if I had my life to live over I
would get the hell out of here for a more humane climate further south.

I think the only banana belt in Alaska would be down at Juneau. But I do
know Fairbanks is the pits. I have a friend from high school days who now
lives in Homer and he seems to think it is a paradise there. But like I
said, Alaska is just too cold and dark for me.

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Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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> > She needs more contraversy. (hi bill!)

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> I think she means controversy. Does she purposely misspell quite

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> words or does she simply not know any better.

I am a computer programmer. We all spell for [censored].

I think you are right about that. I have known several computer

programmers

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and heavy computer users and their spelling and grammar are simply

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I think what has happened is that you get quite bright people who get

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computers but they have no real broad education. This shows every time

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write something. That is too bad as it is the sort of thing that will

hold

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you back in life. Very few people in the top rungs of society are
illiterate. If they were not able to get an education from their

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they acquired one on their own. They knew it was priceless no matter

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cost them in terms of time, effort and money.

Evidentally, you don't know much about smart people, Eddie. Some people
excel in english, and grammar. Some people excel at art. Some people

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at math and engineering. Its expected that a genius at mathematics isn't
going to be a genius at english. Doesn't make that mathematician any less
smart. In my field, people are smart at math and logic. Spelling in
english is in no way a logical endeavour.

Hope that helps!!

Some fields of learning cut across all other fields of knowledge. The use of
the language is one such field. I am not discussing the reading and writing
of great literature, but simply the correct and proper use of the language.
If you can't do this up to a certain level, then you are not smart and you
are not educated.

Mr. Sherman for instance is an engineer, but he writes perfectly good
English. Being able to do this has gotten him where he is today. It will
carry him all his life. There is no downside to it. He is both smart and
educated and I know this about him based on the way he writes the language.

To get an idea of what I am talking about you would have to hang around
college and university faculties. If this world is foreign to you, then you
will never know what you have missed. But these are the people that read and
write and perform most of the intellectual tasks of society. I have always
found them to be both smart and educated. They would never write the kind of
really bad stuff you see everywhere on Usenet. They are incapable of it.

What I am really talking about though is the level of education you should
be in possession of right out of high school. I think everyone on this
newsgroup has that education, but they don't always practice it. Why I do
not know. Some here are just defiant of the conventions of the language.
They think they are above it and can do what they please. I reserve a
special animus for them, but I do make allowances for those who are merely
ignorant and do not know any better.

You are not bad but you could be better. Hells Bells, I could be better! If
I were writing to a community of scholars I damn well would be better. But
being better requires time and effort. So we are constantly making these
little trade-offs between what we know is right and what we think we can get
away with.

You really should be capitalizing English for instance. I know that you know
this and yet you take a shortcut which only annoys intelligent and educated
people. You can get away with that on Usenet, but not in other realms of
life. It will get noted and it will hold you back. If you are young and want
to get ahead, take pains with how you write the language.

All this for free! No charge.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

PS. The arts and mathematics are very special fields of knowledge where
sheer raw talent will often play a leading role. But even those types can
write good every day English. They would never write like slugger for
instance.

My brother-inlaw and his wife got into the tandem thing and love it.
I've talked to my wife about getting a recumbent or trike tandem. Its
just that she doesn't have the deep desire to ride like we do. And
that's fine with me. She has never complained about my riding and in
some ways I enjoy the solitude of a nice solo ride which are probably
more than 90% of my rides. Never really got into group rides except
for the occasional charity or century ride I do each year. I will keep
pursuing the tandem course with her. Who knows maybe one of these
years it will happen. Dom.

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Carol. I did not converse that much with Beth (if at all) but given
the annoncement if you do talk to her tell her and ToyBoy that I wish
them the best in their future and may they have many happy days out on
the trails. No heart broken here or need to shed tears. I already have
the dream woman of my life and she doesn't even ride a bike.

one word, Dom: TANDEM