Bicycle friendly track world cup event?

[Patrick Keogh]

I have made my suggestions to Cycling Australia and they have been
ignored. Maybe I'm out of line, but then again maybe one or more of you
can help influence Cycling Australia...

The Track World Cup is on again in Sydney, at Dunc Grey velodrome. The
web site is http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/

Check it out. Note anything strange? If you look at
http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/gettingthere/gettingthere.htm it
tells you how to get there by car, by bus, by train, but not by bike.
Why not?

The site also says that there is free parking for cars. In fact they
employ multiple security guards to direct cars and control car parking,
but there is no secure parking facilities for bicycles. It is not as if
organising secure bicycle parking is difficult or costly.

What sort of message is all this sending?

Anyway, if you can help change this situation the rest of the planet
would be grateful.

 

[Ben Thomas]

Patrick Keogh wrote:
> I have made my suggestions to Cycling Australia and they have been
> ignored. Maybe I'm out of line, but then again maybe one or more of you
> can help influence Cycling Australia...
>
> The Track World Cup is on again in Sydney, at Dunc Grey velodrome. The
> web site is http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/
>
> Check it out. Note anything strange? If you look at
> http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/gettingthere/gettingthere.htm it
> tells you how to get there by car, by bus, by train, but not by bike.
> Why not?
>
> The site also says that there is free parking for cars. In fact they
> employ multiple security guards to direct cars and control car parking,
> but there is no secure parking facilities for bicycles. It is not as if
> organising secure bicycle parking is difficult or costly.
>
> What sort of message is all this sending?

They don't expect that any cyclists will wish to spectate?



--
Ben
Lyric of the week: "This the eighties and I'm down with the ladies"

 

[Patrick Keogh]

Ben Thomas wrote:
>
> They don't expect that any cyclists will wish to spectate?
>


Or that their commitment to cycling is all about elite competition and
they pay only lip service to community participation?

 

[Gemma_k]

"Patrick Keogh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ben Thomas wrote:
> >
> > They don't expect that any cyclists will wish to spectate?
> >
>
>
> Or that their commitment to cycling is all about elite competition and
> they pay only lip service to community participation?

Or perhaps you are jumping to conclusions and they are working on a
solution?

Non-elite participant,
Gemma

oh, yeah, my licence does say 'Elite' ;-)

 

[scotty72]

I have made my suggestions to Cycling Australia and they have been
ignored. Maybe I'm out of line, but then again maybe one or more of you
can help influence Cycling Australia...

The Track World Cup is on again in Sydney, at Dunc Grey velodrome. The
web site is http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/

Check it out. Note anything strange? If you look at
http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/gettingthere/gettingthere.htm it
tells you how to get there by car, by bus, by train, but not by bike.
Why not?

The site also says that there is free parking for cars. In fact they
employ multiple security guards to direct cars and control car parking,
but there is no secure parking facilities for bicycles. It is not as if
organising secure bicycle parking is difficult or costly.

What sort of message is all this sending?

Anyway, if you can help change this situation the rest of the planet
would be grateful.

Yes, I attended last year, there were very few bikes parked outside and I am not sure there was much secure bike parking offered - certainly not at / near the door.

If you want to get there by train - bike. Probably get off at Chester Hill (or Sefton) then it's a gradual climb up Hector Street (or Chester Hill Rd with a bit along the HWYY at the end) Or, if you want to throw in a few hills - try Yagoona Stn.

SCotty

 

[Patrick Keogh]

Gemma_k wrote:
> "Patrick Keogh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Ben Thomas wrote:
>>> They don't expect that any cyclists will wish to spectate?
>>>
>>
>> Or that their commitment to cycling is all about elite competition and
>> they pay only lip service to community participation?
>
> Or perhaps you are jumping to conclusions and they are working on a
> solution?
>
> Non-elite participant,
> Gemma
>
> oh, yeah, my licence does say 'Elite' ;-)
>
>
Gemma, they may be working on a solution, but I made these concrete
suggestions to them many months ago. I suggested that:

- they contact Bicycle NSW about managing secure bike parking (with the
secure parking at the end of Spring Cycle last year as an example of how
to manage it well)

- I told them about the Bankstown City Council bike map and how to find
it on the web site (Bankstown City is one of their sponsors)

- I offered to write the content for their web site, and told them I
have specific experience in organising bicycle-friendly events

- I alerted Bicycle NSW that there might be contact coming from Cycling
Australia on the issue

My suggestions were made initially by email and I followed up with a
phone call.

So yes I may be jumping to conclusions, just because they have done
nothing that I can directly observe doesn't necessarily mean that they
haven't secretly been preparing. But I just wish they'd share the
secret. If there is secure bicycle parking then we can stay a few
kilometers away and ride there each day. Otherwise I am forced to stay
close (few choices, probably already booked out) or drive there each day
(the least attractive option).

 

[Fractal]

"scotty72" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Patrick Keogh Wrote:
>>
>> Check it out. Note anything strange? If you look at
>> http://www.trackworldcup.cycling.org.au/gettingthere/gettingthere.htm
>> it
>> tells you how to get there by car, by bus, by train, but not by bike.
>> Why not?
>>
>> The site also says that there is free parking for cars. In fact they
>> employ multiple security guards to direct cars and control car
>> parking,
>> but there is no secure parking facilities for bicycles. It is not as
>> if
>> organising secure bicycle parking is difficult or costly.
>>
>> What sort of message is all this sending?


I remember going to the Clarence Cup or something similar there a few years
ago, rode all the way from Leichhardt with a few mates through Strathfield
Berala and Regents Park etc , and they let us park our bikes inside the
glass doors. Too late/tired to ride all the way home so jumped a train on
way home. It wouldnt hurt them to advertise a bike parking facility and
encourage ordinary cyclists to roll up. So good on you Patrick, keep at em.
I thought they had better relations with BNSW than that.

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[Patrick Keogh]

Fractal wrote:

>
>
> I remember going to the Clarence Cup or something similar there a few years
> ago, rode all the way from Leichhardt with a few mates through Strathfield
> Berala and Regents Park etc , and they let us park our bikes inside the
> glass doors. Too late/tired to ride all the way home so jumped a train on
> way home. It wouldnt hurt them to advertise a bike parking facility and
> encourage ordinary cyclists to roll up. So good on you Patrick, keep at em.
> I thought they had better relations with BNSW than that.
>
> fb
>
>

There is still no action on their web site, no info about how to get
there by bike, no statement about secure bicycle parking, so I
telephoned them again this afternoon. I spoke to a different person who
hadn't heard of my suggestions, so any way I said it all again and maybe
something will happen. Or maybe not.

 

[Tony Smith]

Patrick,

There are bike racks out the front of Dunc Gray Velodrome are there not?

Take your bike lock!

Tony.

"Patrick Keogh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fractal wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I remember going to the Clarence Cup or something similar there a few
>> years ago, rode all the way from Leichhardt with a few mates through
>> Strathfield Berala and Regents Park etc , and they let us park our bikes
>> inside the glass doors. Too late/tired to ride all the way home so
>> jumped a train on way home. It wouldnt hurt them to advertise a bike
>> parking facility and encourage ordinary cyclists to roll up. So good on
>> you Patrick, keep at em. I thought they had better relations with BNSW
>> than that.
>>
>> fb
>
> There is still no action on their web site, no info about how to get there
> by bike, no statement about secure bicycle parking, so I telephoned them
> again this afternoon. I spoke to a different person who hadn't heard of my
> suggestions, so any way I said it all again and maybe something will
> happen. Or maybe not.