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Bill Baka wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Bill Baka wrote:
> >> ...
> >> My wife and I are only together for convenience at this point. She holds
> >> me responsible for getting laid off after 9/11 even though everyone else
> >> did within 6 months when the company went down in flames. She loved
> >> those big paychecks that kept up her life style. Now I make less and she
> >> is ****** at me. I am an electronics engineer and most of the work is
> >> either off shored or they will hire an H-1B visa engineer from China or
> >> India since they work for peanuts compared to us Americans....

> >
> > The FREE MARKET is never wrong. If competition brings down wages, it is
> > a natural correction to financial overcompensation.
> >
> > What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
> > and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
> > these services to a reasonable level.
> >

> What you don't realize is that you just stepped into a pile of **** with
> that remark. Houses down there are going for over a million dollars to
> live in a decent area. How the hell are you going to pay for that with a
> globally adjusted wage? The foreigners, almost all of whom are single,
> share a house between 4 or 5 or more. How is a married couple going to
> compete with that? The damned executives pay themselves millions a year
> so they can afford it then ***** about the shortage of skilled labor.


What are you, some kind of communist? The FREE MARKET rewards people
according to their contribution to the economy.

> The reason for that is that any sensible kid going to college these days
> is better off becoming a corporate lawyer, doctor, or something that
> can't be off shored. Along the lines of your last comment, VOIP and
> video conferencing via the Internet could make that happen. The
> prosecution lawyer could be in India and the defense lawyer in China,
> both on big screens in the courtroom. How about out sourcing politicians
> while we are at it? I am sure they could find suitably corrupt ones
> overseas too.


How can the FREE MARKET be wrong? After all, the mainstream media is
full of praise for the FREE MARKET, and all the pundits on television
praise the FREE MARKET as the solution to ALL problems.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
 
di wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> >> Bill Baka wrote:

> .
> >>
> >> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
> >> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
> >> these services to a reasonable level.
> >>

> > What you don't realize is that you just stepped into a pile of **** with
> > that remark. Houses down there are going for over a million dollars to
> > live in a decent area. How the hell are you going to pay for that with a
> > globally adjusted wage? The foreigners, almost all of whom are single,
> > share a house between 4 or 5 or more. How is a married couple going to
> > compete with that? The damned executives pay themselves millions a year so
> > they can afford it then ***** about the shortage of skilled labor. The
> > reason for that is that any sensible kid going to college these days is
> > better off becoming a corporate lawyer, doctor, or something that can't be
> > off shored. Along the lines of your last comment, VOIP and video
> > conferencing via the Internet could make that happen. The prosecution
> > lawyer could be in India and the defense lawyer in China, both on big
> > screens in the courtroom. How about out sourcing politicians while we are
> > at it? I am sure they could find suitably corrupt ones overseas too.
> > Bill Baka

>
> It's getting scary, I'm agreeing with Baka. The large corporations would
> like nothing else than to push their work force into low standard of living
> conditions where they would be not much more than slaves that could not
> afford to move to a better job.


You appear to have been reading too much Karl Marx recently. May I
suggest the Wall Street Journal editorial page instead and maybe some
Heritage Foundation papers?

> Sherman's "Free Market" concept means
> "free" labor to the company and give control to some socialist government.
> BTW, I'm one of the most conservative people you will find, it's just I see
> what's happening to well paying skilled manufacturing jobs in this country
> and what they are being replaced with in low pay service jobs.


It was on the advice of the FREE MARKET advocates that the US
government agreed to NAFTA, GATT/WTO, "Most Favored Nation" trading
status with China, etc.

You sir, appear to want to be able to both keep your cake AND eat it.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
> [...]
>> You, sir Ed, I un-kill filed because your nature is not anywhere near as
>> mean spirited as Brick head, uhh, stone, err, ston. Brickston is an ass
>> and we all just need to realize that before reading his posts.
>> Bill (mellow tonight) Baka

>
> No, Brickston has a unique wit which I appreciate. I myself do not have any
> wit at all. All I can do is parody, the lowest form of humor. But more
> importantly, I detect good nature between the two of you. If you are not the
> best of friends, then you are the best of enemies. That is not a bad
> trade-off in the world of men.


I tolerate him, but if he ever said that **** to my face, well,
different story. I do not take insults to my face very well at all.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> I myself have not procreated because I am
>>>>> basically suicidal and despair of life. I just do not believe in life
>>>>> and once I am dead the whole world can go to Hell. I would like to see
>>>>> the planet Earth become like the planet Mars, devoid of life. Ah, the
>>>>> purity of it all!
>>>> I have one daughter and she is NOT having kids in this screwed up world.
>>>> She is a traffic stopper but not stupid enough to get tied to a man who
>>>> just wants to make little copies of himself. I created another free
>>>> spirit, also a smart ass like me, but hey, we need a few.
>>> Bill, your daughter is a genius, but she is also quite unique for a
>>> woman. Most men do not care much about reproducing themselves. They just
>>> want to have sex - period!

>> So does she, but with protection and not tied to a guy who wants to get
>> married and, oh, by the way, have a few kids.

>
> I most certainly do not approve of anyone having sex for any other reason
> than procreation, most especially women! We men are slobs and sinners, but I
> expect women to be infinitely better than us.


Ahh,
Too religious a point of view. Women have hormones too. Her only desire
for children might be to adopt, but she likes her fun, too.
>
>> But it is mainly women who want children. They are
>>> living, breathing, walking baby factories for sure. If women can be
>>> convinced not to want children, or at least not so many children, that
>>> will partly solve the overpopulation problem in a few generations, at
>>> least here in the West.

>> She sees the world as it is and would not want to sentence her child to
>> live in it.
>>> The real problem with too many people arises in the third world. And now
>>> they are exporting their surplus people to the West and we are just
>>> stupid enough to take them in.

>> Thanks again to the self serving politicians who think growth at any cost
>> is a good thing. They should be lined up for a firing squad for what they
>> have done to this once great country.

>
> Agreed!
>
>> The rather small town where I have lived most of my
>>> life here on the high prairie of southern Minnesota had zero minorities
>>> when I was a kid (not even any native Indians). Now it is half Mexican
>>> and Asian. Go figure!

>> You just confirmed my point. I am part native American, the rest from
>> immigrants from Europe who got here legally via Ellis island. The damned
>> Mexicans get over here and have one kid and we let them stay because that
>> kid is an 'American' and we can't kick out an 'American' and his family of
>> ten non-Americans.

>
> Yes, you are quite correct about this business of being born in America,
> therefore you are an American. We have to get rid of that concept
> altogether.


It would take a Constitutional Amendment and I don't foresee a president
with the balls to initiate it. We would also need an amendment for
gubernator Arnold to run for president because it says you have to be
born here. So, according to that, a Mexican born here too illegals would
be eligible, but a motivated and qualified legal immigrant like Arnold
would not be. He is the one Republican I might vote for. Yes the system
is totally screwed up and the politicians in office now don't have the
guts to do anything about it. Bush is too busy playing war with the
world to pay attention to his own country, except to make it more like
Orwell's 1984 than ever before.
>
> Then they make the women into baby
>> factories because they all claim to be good little Catholics and the Pope
>> says babies are good, have many, and raise them Catholic so we can
>> overpopulate the planet.
>> Maybe we should nuke the Vatican when all the world's Cardinals and
>> highest Catholics are their. The world would be better off.
>> Religion just causes trouble.
>> Bill (not an atheist, just non-church) Baka

>
> Well, now you have gone astray yet once again. It is not religion which
> causes third world peoples to procreate like they do, it is their status as
> peasants and ignoramuses. Birth control is a very tricky thing to get right
> and third world peoples just cannot manage it at all.


In Africa that is true because many of their children die soon after the
next child is born due to neglect.

Religion has nothing
> to do with it;


Religion has everything to do with it for the Mexicans, added to the
fact that they were staging rallies recently getting in our white faces
and bragging, "Face it white people, we have won. You are extinct.".
Makes me want to take out a hunting license on Mexicans.

our human natures (surging hormones) have everything to do
> with it. It is only in the West that we have managed to get any control over
> it at all (mainly via abortion). The ignorant Muslims procreate just the
> same as ignorant Catholics or ignorant pagans do.


Muslims as a whole need to be exterminated. Their religion prevents them
from becoming highly educated, treats women as property, and has a legal
system that says if you steal a loaf of bread, just to survive, they
will cut off your hand. I see no need to tolerate such a religion of
primitives on this planet. I think I will coin a new term, "Religionocide".
>
> The ultimate solution is some kind of chemistry which will shut down the
> reproduction of women. I would also like to see some kind of chemistry that
> would shut down the activity of sex too, but maybe that is hoping for too
> much.


Speak for yourself, I am not that old not to enjoy getting laid.
Viagra not needed here.
>
> Religion, however much trouble it causes in the world, is necessary to
> mankind. Even you admit to being religious, unlike myself. I am a full going
> atheist without any reservations whatsoever.


So am I, as a dead on fact, but I didn't want to say it, (come out of
the closet) on this board.

Only a very small percentage of
> mankind is capable of atheism and, frankly, I do not wish this kind of
> brutal truth and honesty on anyone. It requires a very high degree of
> intellect and civilization to be an atheist and a humanitarian at the same
> time. Most of history's great atheists have been nothing but great
> murderers. ****** and Stalin come immediately to mind as recent examples.


Those two are probably the best examples that are widely known, but
there were petty dictators like Idi Amin for example who used to enjoy
killing his own people for fun. he never got that much attention because
it was only a 2 bit country in Africa. He used to tie his prisoners up
to the ceiling with hand cuffs then hit them in the back of the head
with a baseball bat. He prided himself on the number of 'Home runs' he
could hit, a home run being defined as popping 'both' of the prisoners
eyes out of the front of their heads by smashing their skull in with
such force. Lenin gets badmouthed as an evil dictator but he just was
the first administrator of communism. Stalin was the great murderer of
his own people, killing millions who 'might' have opposed him, including
almost all academics, scientists, and any public personality who did not
praise him daily. I think it is a tie between ****** and Stalin as to
who was the worst.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> [...]
>> I almost took a ride with 2 twenty something blonds today while I was out
>> riding. Saturday night about 6:30 I am riding along out in the foothills
>> and they asked me if I wanted a ride with them. Hmmmm??
>> Should I? I said I was fine and then they wanted to give me a tow with
>> their car. Again, hmmmm??? Maybe they like older guys on bikes?
>> Sometimes planet Baka gets interesting.
>> I know, I should have, but who would have believed it anyway. If I came
>> home with that big a smile on my face my wife would know right away.
>> <Humongous sigh on this one>

>
> Maybe there really is a planet Baka! I have been going out riding every day
> for the past 30 years and the only others I ever run into are crusty old
> bastards like myself. It is a wonder to me that murder has not been
> committed many times over by now. Maybe Bill could send some of those 20
> something blondes my way or are they all to be found only in California
> (near Sacramento).


I appear to have amazing luck at finding myself in strange situations.
They were headed onto town for the Saturday night ritual of going to
bars and trying to find guys. I guess they thought they found a guy who
would help them shorten the process. If my daughter hadn't lost my
digital camera doing what they had planned I would have gotten some
pictures. Maybe I should have gone with them since my wife has been the
definition of grouch lately (4 years). Not having even a hint of grey
hair may have led them astray, too, or they just wanted to try something
or someone new.
Like I said, I live a weird life, and it isn't always by my intention.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
 
di wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Bill Baka wrote:

> .
>>> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>>> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>>> these services to a reasonable level.
>>>

>> What you don't realize is that you just stepped into a pile of **** with
>> that remark. Houses down there are going for over a million dollars to
>> live in a decent area. How the hell are you going to pay for that with a
>> globally adjusted wage? The foreigners, almost all of whom are single,
>> share a house between 4 or 5 or more. How is a married couple going to
>> compete with that? The damned executives pay themselves millions a year so
>> they can afford it then ***** about the shortage of skilled labor. The
>> reason for that is that any sensible kid going to college these days is
>> better off becoming a corporate lawyer, doctor, or something that can't be
>> off shored. Along the lines of your last comment, VOIP and video
>> conferencing via the Internet could make that happen. The prosecution
>> lawyer could be in India and the defense lawyer in China, both on big
>> screens in the courtroom. How about out sourcing politicians while we are
>> at it? I am sure they could find suitably corrupt ones overseas too.
>> Bill Baka

>
> It's getting scary, I'm agreeing with Baka. The large corporations would
> like nothing else than to push their work force into low standard of living
> conditions where they would be not much more than slaves that could not
> afford to move to a better job. Sherman's "Free Market" concept means
> "free" labor to the company and give control to some socialist government.
> BTW, I'm one of the most conservative people you will find, it's just I see
> what's happening to well paying skilled manufacturing jobs in this country
> and what they are being replaced with in low pay service jobs.
>
>

Here's another log for the fire. Apple and some other companies have
been talking about moving their call centers to some African countries
due to the 'high wages' they have to pay the Indians in their booming
out sourcing economy and the rising cost of living in India. When Indian
workers have to star worrying about their jobs that were taken away from
Americans being taken away from them and sent to Africa, it is just
plain getting ridiculous. I had a call last week to renew one of my
electronics trade magazines and I couldn't even understand the Indian on
the other end. Now Africans? We may have to start a boycott of companies
that do that to try to prove a point. Dell is one of the worst
offenders. Remember the commercials a year or two ago showing the guys
in the office working nights at the customer service center? It was
totally bogus since they do not have an American call center.
I am sure that Michael Dell and other CEO's could give a **** about
customer service, other than to say they provide it, while they take
their multi-million dollar salaries and stock options. Intel is laying
off thousands of workers, probably this month, because they started a
new chip making factory in China. The top dogs will probably give
themselves a nice round of bonuses.
Bill (sick of it) Baka
 
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> di wrote:
>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>> Bill Baka wrote:

>> .
>>>> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>>>> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>>>> these services to a reasonable level.
>>>>
>>> What you don't realize is that you just stepped into a pile of **** with
>>> that remark. Houses down there are going for over a million dollars to
>>> live in a decent area. How the hell are you going to pay for that with a
>>> globally adjusted wage? The foreigners, almost all of whom are single,
>>> share a house between 4 or 5 or more. How is a married couple going to
>>> compete with that? The damned executives pay themselves millions a year so
>>> they can afford it then ***** about the shortage of skilled labor. The
>>> reason for that is that any sensible kid going to college these days is
>>> better off becoming a corporate lawyer, doctor, or something that can't be
>>> off shored. Along the lines of your last comment, VOIP and video
>>> conferencing via the Internet could make that happen. The prosecution
>>> lawyer could be in India and the defense lawyer in China, both on big
>>> screens in the courtroom. How about out sourcing politicians while we are
>>> at it? I am sure they could find suitably corrupt ones overseas too.
>>> Bill Baka

>> It's getting scary, I'm agreeing with Baka. The large corporations would
>> like nothing else than to push their work force into low standard of living
>> conditions where they would be not much more than slaves that could not
>> afford to move to a better job.

>
> You appear to have been reading too much Karl Marx recently. May I
> suggest the Wall Street Journal editorial page instead and maybe some
> Heritage Foundation papers?


Read the Wall Street Journal to see how rosy the CEO's are painting the
picture while laying off Americans, out sourcing every thing but their
company Mercedes, and giving themselves nice 'performance' bonuses???
>
>> Sherman's "Free Market" concept means
>> "free" labor to the company and give control to some socialist government.
>> BTW, I'm one of the most conservative people you will find, it's just I see
>> what's happening to well paying skilled manufacturing jobs in this country
>> and what they are being replaced with in low pay service jobs.

>
> It was on the advice of the FREE MARKET advocates that the US
> government agreed to NAFTA, GATT/WTO, "Most Favored Nation" trading
> status with China, etc.


That was a screwup and everyone with a few neurons firing knows it.
>
> You sir, appear to want to be able to both keep your cake AND eat it.


No,
More like have your job and keep it.
Bill Baka
>
 
di wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> [...]
>>
>> Maybe there really is a planet Baka! I have been going out riding every
>> day for the past 30 years and the only others I ever run into are crusty
>> old bastards like myself. It is a wonder to me that murder has not been
>> committed many times over by now. Maybe Bill could send some of those 20
>> something blondes my way or are they all to be found only in California
>> (near Sacramento).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>

>
> You wouldn't know what to do with the blonds.
>
>

I was fully prepared to give them some lessons. That is one thing I am
'really' good at.
Bill (the master) Baka
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> ...
>>> My wife and I are only together for convenience at this point. She holds
>>> me responsible for getting laid off after 9/11 even though everyone else
>>> did within 6 months when the company went down in flames. She loved
>>> those big paychecks that kept up her life style. Now I make less and she
>>> is ****** at me. I am an electronics engineer and most of the work is
>>> either off shored or they will hire an H-1B visa engineer from China or
>>> India since they work for peanuts compared to us Americans....

>> The FREE MARKET is never wrong. If competition brings down wages, it is
>> a natural correction to financial overcompensation.

>
> No one really believes the above statement anymore. It is universally
> recognized that there needs to be governmental regulation of business.


Yes,
But Bush seems either too wrapped up in 'his' war, or has no
comprehension of how bad things are getting in this country.
If China got ****** off at us they could bring down our military because
we are using parts made in China for our military electronics.
That should scare somebody at the top, but they are oblivious to that fact.
>
>> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>> these services to a reasonable level.

>
> Yes, the above would not be a bad start, and then we should get rid of third
> party insurance. If everyone had to pay for his health care out of his own
> wallet, that would make quite a difference in what could be charged. My
> grandparents were doctors and they were anything but rich. Same goes for
> lawyers a few generations ago. Now those professional degrees are nothing
> but a license to steal.


Right now doctors are barely making a living because of the ridiculous
malpractice insurance rates they have to pay. If the courts would not
award multi-million dollar settlements over something the doctor may
have had no control over it might be different. Remember the lawsuit by
an old lady who sued McDonalds for the coffee being too hot and spilling
between her legs, thus ruining her sex life for 2 weeks. For one, I want
my coffee hot. For two, she was old enough that her husband probably
could care less.
For three, was it worth the $15 million dollars the court gave her?
She should have gotten jail time for filing a bogus law suit.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
 
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>> My wife and I are only together for convenience at this point. She holds
>>>> me responsible for getting laid off after 9/11 even though everyone else
>>>> did within 6 months when the company went down in flames. She loved
>>>> those big paychecks that kept up her life style. Now I make less and she
>>>> is ****** at me. I am an electronics engineer and most of the work is
>>>> either off shored or they will hire an H-1B visa engineer from China or
>>>> India since they work for peanuts compared to us Americans....
>>> The FREE MARKET is never wrong. If competition brings down wages, it is
>>> a natural correction to financial overcompensation.
>>>
>>> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>>> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>>> these services to a reasonable level.
>>>

>> What you don't realize is that you just stepped into a pile of **** with
>> that remark. Houses down there are going for over a million dollars to
>> live in a decent area. How the hell are you going to pay for that with a
>> globally adjusted wage? The foreigners, almost all of whom are single,
>> share a house between 4 or 5 or more. How is a married couple going to
>> compete with that? The damned executives pay themselves millions a year
>> so they can afford it then ***** about the shortage of skilled labor.

>
> What are you, some kind of communist? The FREE MARKET rewards people
> according to their contribution to the economy.


Communist, my ass, you idiot. I am a top level engineer who has been
displaced by out sourcing and the hiring of young H-1B visa kids who
will work 60 hour weeks for half what I would want. We are letting the
CEO's take the good jobs from Americans and farm them out to wherever.
I lost a job in 1998 by trying to make a Chinese subcontractor meet the
specs they were given and could not do. I knew what to do but was not
given the chance since I was relegated to 'liason'. I was finally fired
with great indignity because the incompetent Chinese shop had ties to
their major power supply vendor and the small shop was *****ing about
the pushy American engineer (me). Yeah, do your job and get rewarded by
getting fired for irritating the incompetent non-Americans.
>
>> The reason for that is that any sensible kid going to college these days
>> is better off becoming a corporate lawyer, doctor, or something that
>> can't be off shored. Along the lines of your last comment, VOIP and
>> video conferencing via the Internet could make that happen. The
>> prosecution lawyer could be in India and the defense lawyer in China,
>> both on big screens in the courtroom. How about out sourcing politicians
>> while we are at it? I am sure they could find suitably corrupt ones
>> overseas too.

>
> How can the FREE MARKET be wrong? After all, the mainstream media is
> full of praise for the FREE MARKET, and all the pundits on television
> praise the FREE MARKET as the solution to ALL problems.


They have a job that won't be off shored and they tell it like they are
told to spin it.
You just can't see your hand in front of your face, much less the
downfall of the US, can you?
Bill Baka
>
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:

> [...]
>>> MSNBC cable news channel has absolutely nothing to do with Bill Gates.

>> Then why the MS...NBC?
>> Billy boy also bought most if not all of Ziff-Davis publishing, a magazine
>> house that just happens to put out a large percentage of the electronics
>> news magazines. That way they can cover Linux or some other operating
>> system but they can't rave over it. Money talks.

>
> Whether Bill Gates (Microsoft) bought an interest in NBC or not, I do not
> think he ever has one thing to say about its news division. After all, he is
> busy doing many other things.
>
>>> Limbaugh is the best and most entertaining radio talk show personality
>>> ever to come down the pike. When others occasionally substitute for him,
>>> you realize all over again what a genius he is. The drive-by media (NY
>>> Times, CBS News, etc.) is pitiful compared to him.

>> Poor Ed, you are becoming delusional and about to fall off the right side
>> of the cliff.
>> Taking Limbaugh seriously, get real. hahahahaha.

>
> Nope, you got to really listen to him and if you do so you will be royally
> entertained and learn a billion things besides. He is not the number one
> radio talk show without reason.


I have listened to him since he is so right wing he actually counts as
humor. If people actually take him seriously then the national I.Q. is
lower than I thought.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9W%[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
>> Nope, you got to really listen to him [Rush Limbaugh] and if you do so
>> you will be royally entertained and learn a billion things besides. He is
>> not the number one radio talk show without reason.

>
> I have listened to him since he is so right wing he actually counts as
> humor. If people actually take him seriously then the national I.Q. is
> lower than I thought.


I assure you that millions of folks take Rush very seriously indeed. Count
me one of them!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> I myself have not procreated because I am
>>>>>> basically suicidal and despair of life. I just do not believe in life
>>>>>> and once I am dead the whole world can go to Hell. I would like to
>>>>>> see the planet Earth become like the planet Mars, devoid of life. Ah,
>>>>>> the purity of it all!
>>>>> I have one daughter and she is NOT having kids in this screwed up
>>>>> world. She is a traffic stopper but not stupid enough to get tied to a
>>>>> man who just wants to make little copies of himself. I created another
>>>>> free spirit, also a smart ass like me, but hey, we need a few.
>>>> Bill, your daughter is a genius, but she is also quite unique for a
>>>> woman. Most men do not care much about reproducing themselves. They
>>>> just want to have sex - period!
>>> So does she, but with protection and not tied to a guy who wants to get
>>> married and, oh, by the way, have a few kids.

>>
>> I most certainly do not approve of anyone having sex for any other reason
>> than procreation, most especially women! We men are slobs and sinners,
>> but I expect women to be infinitely better than us.

>
> Ahh,
> Too religious a point of view. Women have hormones too. Her only desire
> for children might be to adopt, but she likes her fun, too.


This proves to me that you have no understanding of women whatsoever. I am
convinced that only Roman Catholic priests and hermits like myself have any
understanding of women. In another age I would have been a priest myself and
would have delighted in consigning sinners to Hell.

Women are deadly serious about sex. That is because only they can bear
children. It is only us men who think of it as fun and games.

Mr. Tom Sherman of ARBR is also a frustrated preacher, but he is of the
liberal Protestant persuasion whereas I belong to a far older persuasison. I
am a kindred spirit to the Spanish Inquisition. Indeed, I am the Grand
Inquisitor Himself!

>>> But it is mainly women who want children. They are
>>>> living, breathing, walking baby factories for sure. If women can be
>>>> convinced not to want children, or at least not so many children, that
>>>> will partly solve the overpopulation problem in a few generations, at
>>>> least here in the West.
>>> She sees the world as it is and would not want to sentence her child to
>>> live in it.
>>>> The real problem with too many people arises in the third world. And
>>>> now they are exporting their surplus people to the West and we are just
>>>> stupid enough to take them in.
>>> Thanks again to the self serving politicians who think growth at any
>>> cost is a good thing. They should be lined up for a firing squad for
>>> what they have done to this once great country.

>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>>> The rather small town where I have lived most of my
>>>> life here on the high prairie of southern Minnesota had zero minorities
>>>> when I was a kid (not even any native Indians). Now it is half Mexican
>>>> and Asian. Go figure!
>>> You just confirmed my point. I am part native American, the rest from
>>> immigrants from Europe who got here legally via Ellis island. The damned
>>> Mexicans get over here and have one kid and we let them stay because
>>> that kid is an 'American' and we can't kick out an 'American' and his
>>> family of ten non-Americans.

>>
>> Yes, you are quite correct about this business of being born in America,
>> therefore you are an American. We have to get rid of that concept
>> altogether.

>
> It would take a Constitutional Amendment and I don't foresee a president
> with the balls to initiate it. We would also need an amendment for
> gubernator Arnold to run for president because it says you have to be born
> here. So, according to that, a Mexican born here too illegals would be
> eligible, but a motivated and qualified legal immigrant like Arnold would
> not be. He is the one Republican I might vote for. Yes the system is
> totally screwed up and the politicians in office now don't have the guts
> to do anything about it. Bush is too busy playing war with the world to
> pay attention to his own country, except to make it more like Orwell's
> 1984 than ever before.


Well, wars abroad are always more important than anything domestically.
After all, if we lose our wars, then we have lost everything. Read any
history book in order to get a glimmer of this eternal truth.

>> Then they make the women into baby
>>> factories because they all claim to be good little Catholics and the
>>> Pope says babies are good, have many, and raise them Catholic so we can
>>> overpopulate the planet.
>>> Maybe we should nuke the Vatican when all the world's Cardinals and
>>> highest Catholics are their. The world would be better off.
>>> Religion just causes trouble.
>>> Bill (not an atheist, just non-church) Baka

>>
>> Well, now you have gone astray yet once again. It is not religion which
>> causes third world peoples to procreate like they do, it is their status
>> as peasants and ignoramuses. Birth control is a very tricky thing to get
>> right and third world peoples just cannot manage it at all.

>
> In Africa that is true because many of their children die soon after the
> next child is born due to neglect.
>
> Religion has nothing
>> to do with it;

>
> Religion has everything to do with it for the Mexicans, added to the fact
> that they were staging rallies recently getting in our white faces and
> bragging, "Face it white people, we have won. You are extinct.".
> Makes me want to take out a hunting license on Mexicans.


Nope, religion has nothing to do with it. However, they are right in that
demography is destiny. It they are able to out populate us, then they will
win in the end.

> our human natures (surging hormones) have everything to do
>> with it. It is only in the West that we have managed to get any control
>> over it at all (mainly via abortion). The ignorant Muslims procreate just
>> the same as ignorant Catholics or ignorant pagans do.

>
> Muslims as a whole need to be exterminated. Their religion prevents them
> from becoming highly educated, treats women as property, and has a legal
> system that says if you steal a loaf of bread, just to survive, they will
> cut off your hand. I see no need to tolerate such a religion of primitives
> on this planet. I think I will coin a new term, "Religionocide".


Yes, Bill Baka and I are on the same page here. The Muslim religion has
never undergone a Reformation such as Christianity has over and over again.
Islam is still mired in the Middle Ages and it is the main reason why Arab
countries are so despicable in the 21st century. Until it is reformed, it
will always be a religion of the backward and the ignorant.

>> The ultimate solution is some kind of chemistry which will shut down the
>> reproduction of women. I would also like to see some kind of chemistry
>> that would shut down the activity of sex too, but maybe that is hoping
>> for too much.

>
> Speak for yourself, I am not that old not to enjoy getting laid.
> Viagra not needed here.
>>
>> Religion, however much trouble it causes in the world, is necessary to
>> mankind. Even you admit to being religious, unlike myself. I am a full
>> going atheist without any reservations whatsoever.

>
> So am I, as a dead on fact, but I didn't want to say it, (come out of the
> closet) on this board.


Atheism is going to be more and more acceptable in the future, even in
America. However, I fear for our moral moorings once we abandon religion.
Secular humanism is a horror!

> Only a very small percentage of
>> mankind is capable of atheism and, frankly, I do not wish this kind of
>> brutal truth and honesty on anyone. It requires a very high degree of
>> intellect and civilization to be an atheist and a humanitarian at the
>> same time. Most of history's great atheists have been nothing but great
>> murderers. ****** and Stalin come immediately to mind as recent examples.

>
> Those two are probably the best examples that are widely known, but there
> were petty dictators like Idi Amin for example who used to enjoy killing
> his own people for fun. he never got that much attention because it was
> only a 2 bit country in Africa. He used to tie his prisoners up to the
> ceiling with hand cuffs then hit them in the back of the head with a
> baseball bat. He prided himself on the number of 'Home runs' he could hit,
> a home run being defined as popping 'both' of the prisoners eyes out of
> the front of their heads by smashing their skull in with such force. Lenin
> gets badmouthed as an evil dictator but he just was the first
> administrator of communism. Stalin was the great murderer of his own
> people, killing millions who 'might' have opposed him, including almost
> all academics, scientists, and any public personality who did not praise
> him daily. I think it is a tie between ****** and Stalin as to who was the
> worst.


See, all it takes is someone like me to bring out the best in Bill Baka!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...

[...]
>>> What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>>> and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>>> these services to a reasonable level.

>>
>> Yes, the above would not be a bad start, and then we should get rid of
>> third party insurance. If everyone had to pay for his health care out of
>> his own wallet, that would make quite a difference in what could be
>> charged. My grandparents were doctors and they were anything but rich.
>> Same goes for lawyers a few generations ago. Now those professional
>> degrees are nothing but a license to steal.

>
> Right now doctors are barely making a living because of the ridiculous
> malpractice insurance rates they have to pay. If the courts would not
> award multi-million dollar settlements over something the doctor may have
> had no control over it might be different. ...


Nope, all doctors get well off in short order. The best advice you can give
a young person if wealth is important to him is to advise him to get an M.D.
degree. He may not get to be a millionaire, but he will definitely get to be
very well off.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:p[email protected]...
>> [...]
>>> You, sir Ed, I un-kill filed because your nature is not anywhere near as
>>> mean spirited as Brick head, uhh, stone, err, ston. Brickston is an ass
>>> and we all just need to realize that before reading his posts.
>>> Bill (mellow tonight) Baka

>>
>> No, Brickston has a unique wit which I appreciate. I myself do not have
>> any wit at all. All I can do is parody, the lowest form of humor. But
>> more importantly, I detect good nature between the two of you. If you are
>> not the best of friends, then you are the best of enemies. That is not a
>> bad trade-off in the world of men.

>
> I tolerate him, but if he ever said that **** to my face, well, different
> story. I do not take insults to my face very well at all.


Insult has mainly to do with intent. I do not detect any intent on the part
of Brickston to insult you. Instead I detect nothing but I desire to poke
fun at you. I may easily fall into that category myself. Stay tuned.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Bill Baka wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >> My wife and I are only together for convenience at this point. She
>> >> holds
>> >> me responsible for getting laid off after 9/11 even though everyone
>> >> else
>> >> did within 6 months when the company went down in flames. She loved
>> >> those big paychecks that kept up her life style. Now I make less and
>> >> she
>> >> is ****** at me. I am an electronics engineer and most of the work is
>> >> either off shored or they will hire an H-1B visa engineer from China
>> >> or
>> >> India since they work for peanuts compared to us Americans....
>> >
>> > The FREE MARKET is never wrong. If competition brings down wages, it is
>> > a natural correction to financial overcompensation.

>>
>> No one really believes the above statement anymore. It is universally
>> recognized that there needs to be governmental regulation of business.

>
> Many on the political right disagree about the need for government
> regulation.


They have been marginalized.

> The other option is to let business regulate the government on economic
> and labor matters. This was first put into full practice in the 1930's
> by nice men such as Benito Mussolini, Ferdinand Franco and Adplf
> ******. However, today's proponents of such a system shun the
> comparison to these men for some reason, and the associated term
> fascism.


We want a free market, but not TOO free. That is where regulation comes in.
We sure do not want the workers managing business since they have shown over
and over (various socialisms) that they have no aptitude for it.

>> > What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
>> > and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
>> > these services to a reasonable level.

>>
>> Yes, the above would not be a bad start, and then we should get rid of
>> third
>> party insurance. If everyone had to pay for his health care out of his
>> own
>> wallet, that would make quite a difference in what could be charged. My
>> grandparents were doctors and they were anything but rich. Same goes for
>> lawyers a few generations ago. Now those professional degrees are nothing
>> but a license to steal.

>
> Yes, health care should be limited to those who can pay for it.


Those who can't pay for it, should get it subsidized just like the school
kids get their K-12 education. The Massachusetts plan seems sensible to me.

But overall, why should employers have to pay for their employees health
care?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:47:59 GMT, Bill Baka <[email protected]> wrote:

>Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:p[email protected]...
>> [...]
>>> You, sir Ed, I un-kill filed because your nature is not anywhere near as
>>> mean spirited as Brick head, uhh, stone, err, ston. Brickston is an ass
>>> and we all just need to realize that before reading his posts.
>>> Bill (mellow tonight) Baka

>>
>> No, Brickston has a unique wit which I appreciate. I myself do not have any
>> wit at all. All I can do is parody, the lowest form of humor. But more
>> importantly, I detect good nature between the two of you. If you are not the
>> best of friends, then you are the best of enemies. That is not a bad
>> trade-off in the world of men.

>
>I tolerate him, but if he ever said that **** to my face, well,
>different story. I do not take insults to my face very well at all.
>Bill Baka


Given any remark I've posted, if said to your face, just what would
you do, Billy boy?
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Bill Baka wrote:
> >> >> ...
> >> >> My wife and I are only together for convenience at this point. She
> >> >> holds
> >> >> me responsible for getting laid off after 9/11 even though everyone
> >> >> else
> >> >> did within 6 months when the company went down in flames. She loved
> >> >> those big paychecks that kept up her life style. Now I make less and
> >> >> she
> >> >> is ****** at me. I am an electronics engineer and most of the work is
> >> >> either off shored or they will hire an H-1B visa engineer from China
> >> >> or
> >> >> India since they work for peanuts compared to us Americans....
> >> >
> >> > The FREE MARKET is never wrong. If competition brings down wages, it is
> >> > a natural correction to financial overcompensation.
> >>
> >> No one really believes the above statement anymore. It is universally
> >> recognized that there needs to be governmental regulation of business.

> >
> > Many on the political right disagree about the need for government
> > regulation.

>
> They have been marginalized.
>
> > The other option is to let business regulate the government on economic
> > and labor matters. This was first put into full practice in the 1930's
> > by nice men such as Benito Mussolini, Ferdinand Franco and Adolf
> > ******. However, today's proponents of such a system shun the
> > comparison to these men for some reason, and the associated term
> > fascism.

>
> We want a free market, but not TOO free. That is where regulation comes in.
> We sure do not want the workers managing business since they have shown over
> and over (various socialisms) that they have no aptitude for it.


ALL government interference in the FREE MARKET is inefficient. See
Okun's Leaky Bucket.

> >> > What the US needs is to remove artificial barriers to practicing law
> >> > and medicine in the US, so the FREE MARKET will bring the costs of
> >> > these services to a reasonable level.
> >>
> >> Yes, the above would not be a bad start, and then we should get rid of
> >> third
> >> party insurance. If everyone had to pay for his health care out of his
> >> own
> >> wallet, that would make quite a difference in what could be charged. My
> >> grandparents were doctors and they were anything but rich. Same goes for
> >> lawyers a few generations ago. Now those professional degrees are nothing
> >> but a license to steal.

> >
> > Yes, health care should be limited to those who can pay for it.

>
> Those who can't pay for it, should get it subsidized just like the school
> kids get their K-12 education. The Massachusetts plan seems sensible to me.


Let those who can EARN they way in the FREE MARKET pay for their own
health care. Why penalize the productive for the failures of others?

> But overall, why should employers have to pay for their employees health
> care?


This should be an item negotiated between Labor and Capital on an
individual basis, depending on Labor's FREE MARKET value to the holder
of Capital.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
 
Bill Sornson wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> >> di wrote:
> >>> "R Brickston" <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:49:04 -0400, dgk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course, the rest of the world is not responsible for the
> >>>>>>> USA's total incompentence in understanding Intelligence. Hell
> >>>>>>> , Scott Ritter (an ex US marine ) told everyone that these
> >>>>>>> statements were nonsense. Ritter was No 2 man in the UN
> >>>>>>> inspection teams.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ritter was an asshole and a liberal one at that. What else do we
> >>>>>> ever need
> >>>>>> to know about him.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But he appears to have been correct. He said that there were no
> >>>>> weapons and there were no weapons.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far.
> >>>
> >>> There were no weapons, except for the ones they found recently.
> >>
> >> Plus the ones still buried.
> >>
> >> Plus the ones in Syria (or who knows where by now).

> >
> > BUT TEACHER, THE DOG REALLY DID EAT MY HOMEWORK!

>
> That's OK, Johnnie. The Brits and Russians and French (for God's sake) and
> even Saddam's own generals will vouch for you (along with the U.N., CIA,
> FBI, State Dept., etc etc etc.)
>
> Oh, and don't forget the Kurds, of course. Pity they're too DEAD to talk
> about it...


Yo Billy,

How many Kurds have been killed by poison gas used by the Iraqi
government SINCE the 1991 Gulf War and follow-up UN weapons
inspections?

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
"We have just got to hope, that whatever retaliatory action the Bush
government undertakes to satisfy its own people for the twin towers
does the least possible damage to the struggle against terrorism." -
Sir Michael Howard
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9W%[email protected]...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:

> [...]
>>> Nope, you got to really listen to him [Rush Limbaugh] and if you do so
>>> you will be royally entertained and learn a billion things besides. He is
>>> not the number one radio talk show without reason.

>> I have listened to him since he is so right wing he actually counts as
>> humor. If people actually take him seriously then the national I.Q. is
>> lower than I thought.

>
> I assure you that millions of folks take Rush very seriously indeed. Count
> me one of them!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>

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