Bike for newbie - recommendations?

Discussion in 'UK and Europe' started by The Oracle, Jun 18, 2003.

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  1. Peter B

    Peter B Guest

    "Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > It's just lucky that I don't need the bike for a while, I go in for a
    heart
    > bypass on Sunday, wish me luck folks, and if I don't leave the slab alive, it's first come first
    > served (for the bike)

    Good luck Den.

    Bloke I know who had a bypass gave up smoking and took up cycling afterwards so if you do the
    reverse how many fags do you want for the bike?

    Pete
     


  2. Peter B

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    "The Oracle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hello again,
    >
    > I have been doing about 150 miles a week on my knackered "mountain" bike
    (a
    > Raleigh Genesis). I am now thinking of buying something more suitable.

    When you get on a good bike it'll feel effortless after that!

    >>
    > Who do I go and see? Where can I get measured up? Any old bike shop? A model I have seen is the
    > Specialised Allez Sport which costs about £800. Some dude who overtaken (everyone does) me
    > recommended this one and fuunny enough I saw it recommended in Men's Health. I don't mind spending
    > this much. Would this be a good choice for a 6 feet 1 guy at 15 stone? Could I get more bang for
    > the buck with an older model perhaps? I don't mind getting a second hand one. What frame would I
    > be at my height? What sort of money do you guys spend on a bike? Money isn't really a problem
    > though like with anything else if I can get a brilliant one for a couple of
    hundred
    > then so much the better.

    It's not just your overall height that needs to be considered but also the ratio of your torso to
    legs etc. And as has been stated you need to go to a decent bike shop and at least sit on one. The
    bike looks ok, at the end of the day you can go from £800 to £2000 if you're happy with the results
    of diminishing returns. The thing is though that you'll have at least a good entry level bike and if
    you stay keen if/when you come to upgrade you'll have a much clearer idea of what suits you without
    relying on the opinion of us lot :)

    Pete
     
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  4. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >And as has been stated you need to go to a decent bike shop and at least sit on one.

    I wouldn't spend that much cash on a bike without having a bike-fit analysis done. My LBS does them
    for <mumble> quid which you get back if you buy a bike.

    Guy
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  5. Peter B

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    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:55:30 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >And as has been stated you need to go to a decent bike shop and at least
    sit
    > >on one.
    >
    > I wouldn't spend that much cash on a bike without having a bike-fit analysis done. My LBS does
    > them for <mumble> quid which you get back if you buy a bike.

    When I intended to spend nearly double what the OP is considering I went to my LBS to whom I've
    given a lot of custom over the years. They have one of those bike fitting jigs but no offer was made
    to me to use it and in fact the assistant couldn't be bothered to even fit a pair of pedals or
    adjust the saddle of a showroom model and then had the gall to state that I'd be charged £1.50
    apiece for headset spacers! Needless to say I went elsewhere to a shop that got the bike of my
    choice from another branch and let me test ride it with no obligation whatsoever. I liked it so much
    I bought it (just the bike, not the company).

    My s*it stirring brother who has spent a kings ransom at the offending lbs took great delight in
    telling them about their lost custom and I now shop around a lot more only going to that lbs when
    convenience takes precedence.

    Pete
     
  6. Not Me

    Not Me Guest

    Peter B deftly scribbled:

    > My s*it stirring brother who has spent a kings ransom at the offending lbs took great delight in
    > telling them about their lost custom and I now shop around a lot more only going to that lbs when
    > convenience takes precedence.

    Quite right too ..

    If an lbs doesn't support it's customers knowledgably, and honestly, then they really ought to
    expect to lose at least some knowledgable custom and customers. Of course, there are many lbs that
    pander to the not so knowledgable cycling fraternity, but then, their highest value bikes are
    generally of relatively low value, commensurate with their knowledge.

    I reckon if anyone spends above, maybe, £500 on a cycle, then they ought to be entitled to damn fine
    service .. ;)

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  7. Dave Kahn

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    On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:18:59 +0000 (UTC), "Peter B" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >My s*it stirring brother who has spent a kings ransom at the offending lbs took great delight in
    >telling them about their lost custom and I now shop around a lot more only going to that lbs when
    >convenience takes precedence.

    Your first trip on the new bike should have been round to the original LBS for a re-enaction of the
    famous scene from "Pretty Woman".

    Like my new bike? Guess where I got it?

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  8. Peter B

    Peter B Guest

    "Dave Kahn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Your first trip on the new bike should have been round to the original LBS for a re-enaction of
    > the famous scene from "Pretty Woman".

    It took me nearly a year to do it but when I needed a spare part urgently for my mtb it gave me
    great pleasure to go on the new(ish) road bike and chain it up on the rail outside. This rail is
    located in full view of the counter so they could hardly miss seeing it, and it's a brand they
    don't stock ;-)

    Pete
     
  9. Just Zis Guy

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    On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:29:20 +0100, "Not me, someone else" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I reckon if anyone spends above, maybe, £500 on a cycle, then they ought to be entitled to damn
    >fine service .. ;)

    If I don't get damn fine service in the first place the £500 bike is moot.

    Guy
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  10. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:33:20 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:29:20 +0100, "Not me, someone else" <notcheckedeve[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>I reckon if anyone spends above, maybe, £500 on a cycle, then they ought to be entitled to damn
    >>fine service .. ;)
    >
    >If I don't get damn fine service in the first place the £500 bike is moot.

    Right. I tried five different LBS's before I found the bike that my wife liked and got the service
    we wanted. Ended up with a Dawes Kara-Kum from a shop in Brockenhurst. Very nice bike, too. At the
    £500 mark, we couldn't see better value-for-money for a commuter/touring bike. Good build quality,
    Deore XT groupset, Bor Yueh racks, SPD pedals, the works. Bargain.

    And on the Optima front, I had a nice written (well, e-mailed) aoplogy from the firm along with a
    full explanation of the delays. Off to give it a look over on Friday. :)
    --
    DG

    Bah!
     
  11. Not Me

    Not Me Guest

    Just zis Guy, you know? deftly scribbled:

    > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:29:20 +0100, "Not me, someone else" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I reckon if anyone spends above, maybe, £500 on a cycle, then they ought to be entitled to damn
    >> fine service .. ;)
    >
    > If I don't get damn fine service in the first place the £500 bike is moot.

    Of course .. ;)

    The following two scenes are a representation of an lbs, no particular lbs in mind and any
    resemblance to anyone living or dead is .. er.. made up.

    Scene one .. "You'd like a puncture outfit ... is that it ? Well they're over there ...->"

    Scene two .. "You'd like a puncture outfit ... We have small, medium and large, and a selection of
    patches, glues and other sundries just here, sir .. Is there anything else you'd like ?"

    I know where I'd go to most often .. ;)

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  12. Just Zis Guy

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    On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:43:47 +0100, Disgruntled Goat <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Ended up with a Dawes Kara-Kum from a shop in Brockenhurst.

    CycleXperience? We went there to hire a Dawes for a day for my elder son to try out - they couldn't
    have been more helpful.

    Guy
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  13. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:24:44 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:43:47 +0100, Disgruntled Goat <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Ended up with a Dawes Kara-Kum from a shop in Brockenhurst.
    >
    >CycleXperience? We went there to hire a Dawes for a day for my elder son to try out - they couldn't
    >have been more helpful.

    That's the one. Very nice bunch.
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    DG

    Bah!
     
  14. Michael Kent

    Michael Kent Guest

    <snip>
    > Scene two .. "You'd like a puncture outfit ... We have small, medium and large, and a selection of
    > patches, glues and other sundries just here, sir .. Is there anything else you'd like ?"
    >
    > I know where I'd go to most often .. ;)
    >
    </snip>

    Halfords?

    Cheers Michael
     
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