Bike tube etiquette

[Terryc]

TimC wrote:

> It's a very small chance. That's why you don't take 2 tubes around
> with you all the time.

Unless the "payoff" when you do have two punctures is so immense {:-(

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:24:22 +1100
DaveB <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tex wrote:
>>
>> Why aren't *they* carrying a repair kit?
>
> Because there are a lot of gumby cyclists out there. You can either not
> help them and say suffer in your jocks (and I'm wondering when was the
> last time anyone heard that), or help them and suggest that in future
> they carry a spare tube or repair kit.

I've met motorcyclists without tools, out miles from anywhere.

They are the reason I carry a tubeless tyre repair kit even though all
my bikes run tubes.

Yes, when I have met someone and used my kit, it's cost me money.
$12 or so for the CO2 and the plug. I've been offered money and I've
just been offered thanks.

Either way is fine with me because when I started riding the people I
rode with taught me that we look after our own.

How do I repay the bod who realised I wasn't in his mirror anymore and
came back to look for me, found me unconscious and bleeding, called the
ambulance, and found someone to look after my bike? A man I didn't know
from Adam?

He did it because I was a biker and he was a biker and we look after
our own. I can't pay him in money, but the times I've helped others
before that and after it are the currency I pay him in. And the currency
others pay me in.

Price of lunch is not the point, not the point at all.

Zebee

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:46:11 +1100
TimC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Being the person I am, I have two tubes, a repair kit, a big heavy
> tool, and my wallet weighs 31 pounds.

I have to carry two tubes. Different sized wheels.

I also carry a repair kit and a chain tool and links. I'm never going
to have to walk the thing home again....

Zebee

 

[AndrewJ]

On Mar 22, 8:47 pm, ACP <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I have had this experience, but from the other viewpoint! Twice I have
> had multiple flats and only one tube and have asked a guy riding by if
> he has a spare tube. Both times the guy has said "No problem" and given
> me a tube... which I reckon is fantastic and great karma!
>
> Each time I asked the guy who his LBS was and then I dropped by the
> shop, bought a tube and left it there for him to pick up. I guess I
> wanted to show these guys that I really appreciated them putting
> themselves out for me... particularly as they may then have had a flat
> themselves and been without a tube!
>
> I agree that the ye ole puncture kit is still a winner tho!
>
> --
> ACP


hooly dooly, positive karma here.

 

[Friday]

Donga wrote:
> On Mar 24, 9:32 am, TimC <[email protected]
> astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> That's why you don't take 2 tubes around
>> with you all the time.
>> --
>
> But I do! Ah, that explains why everyone is faster than me, that extra
> 100g!
>
> No, seriously, half of the few punctures I get would come two at a
> time, so I carry two tubes and some no-glue patches.
>
> Donga
>
>

Since the rear wheel follows almost exactly the same path as the front
wheel it would seem to me that if the front wheel ran over a sharp
object on the road (ie. broken glass) then the back wheel would run over
it too. Taking two spare tubes is common sense. (Well at least to me it
is.) I always carry an unopened tube of glue too, since once it's been
opened it nearly always dries out.

Friday.

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:19:34 +0900
Friday <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since the rear wheel follows almost exactly the same path as the front
> wheel it would seem to me that if the front wheel ran over a sharp
> object on the road (ie. broken glass) then the back wheel would run over
> it too. Taking two spare tubes is common sense. (Well at least to me it

it's been my experience that the front wheel punctures far less often.
Perhaps the front wheel runs over it and disturbs the object and the
rear wheel then picks it up, perhaps there is more weight on the rear
and so the object penetrates more easily.

No idea, but I can't recall the last front wheel puncture, but I've
had many rear wheel ones.

Zebee

 

[TimC]

On 2007-03-24, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> In aus.bicycle on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:19:34 +0900
> Friday <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Since the rear wheel follows almost exactly the same path as the front
>> wheel it would seem to me that if the front wheel ran over a sharp
>> object on the road (ie. broken glass) then the back wheel would run over
>> it too. Taking two spare tubes is common sense. (Well at least to me it
>
> it's been my experience that the front wheel punctures far less often.
> Perhaps the front wheel runs over it and disturbs the object and the
> rear wheel then picks it up, perhaps there is more weight on the rear
> and so the object penetrates more easily.
>
> No idea, but I can't recall the last front wheel puncture, but I've
> had many rear wheel ones.

It's because the rear wheel is harder to remove than the front, and
God doesn't like cyclists. Sits there laughing at us, the *******.


It's 3 corner jack season (bindie eyes, cat's eyes) here, and the only
bit of grass on my entire commute is about 5cm long between my tarmac
front driveway, a bit of dirt, and the road. Yet it's long enough to
harbour 3 corner jacks which puncture every couple of weeks.

--
TimC
That's why I love VoIP. You don't get people phoning up to complain that the
network is down. -- Peter Corlett in ASR

 

[Zebee Johnstone]

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:01:24 +1000
TimC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> It's 3 corner jack season (bindie eyes, cat's eyes) here, and the only
> bit of grass on my entire commute is about 5cm long between my tarmac
> front driveway, a bit of dirt, and the road. Yet it's long enough to
> harbour 3 corner jacks which puncture every couple of weeks.

So next time you clean your chain you know where the kero's going.

Zebee

 

[mikeg]

It's 3 corner jack season (bindie eyes, cat's eyes) here, and the only
bit of grass on my entire commute is about 5cm long between my tarmac
front driveway, a bit of dirt, and the road. Yet it's long enough to
harbour 3 corner jacks which puncture every couple of weeks.

If it is green, was green, or should be green - do not ride on it, carry the bike over it.

- Advice given at a ride briefing in Cowra re cat's eyes
(Bike North Tour de Cowra)

Mike

 

[Theo Bekkers]

Tex wrote:

> None of which is my fault. So, how exactly am I obligated to give
> them my property for free because they didn't prepare properly?

You're not obligated at all. Remember that next time you have a problem you
can't fix yourself by the side of the road, and no-one offers to help.

Theo

 

[Theo Bekkers]

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Friday <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Since the rear wheel follows almost exactly the same path as the
>> front wheel it would seem to me that if the front wheel ran over a
>> sharp object on the road (ie. broken glass) then the back wheel
>> would run over it too. Taking two spare tubes is common sense. (Well
>> at least to me it
>
> it's been my experience that the front wheel punctures far less often.
> Perhaps the front wheel runs over it and disturbs the object and the
> rear wheel then picks it up, perhaps there is more weight on the rear
> and so the object penetrates more easily.
>
> No idea, but I can't recall the last front wheel puncture, but I've
> had many rear wheel ones.

Yup, what Zebee says is correct. On motorcycles, front wheel punctures are
rare. I had a spate of rear wheel puntures many years ago. They stopped when
I fitted a mudflap to the front mudguard. Apparently this knocks down the
item the front wheel picks up.

Theo

 

[dave]

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.bicycle on Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:24:22 +1100
> DaveB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Tex wrote:
>>
>>>Why aren't *they* carrying a repair kit?
>>
>>Because there are a lot of gumby cyclists out there. You can either not
>>help them and say suffer in your jocks (and I'm wondering when was the
>>last time anyone heard that), or help them and suggest that in future
>>they carry a spare tube or repair kit.
>
>
> I've met motorcyclists without tools, out miles from anywhere.
>
> They are the reason I carry a tubeless tyre repair kit even though all
> my bikes run tubes.
>
> Yes, when I have met someone and used my kit, it's cost me money.
> $12 or so for the CO2 and the plug. I've been offered money and I've
> just been offered thanks.
>
> Either way is fine with me because when I started riding the people I
> rode with taught me that we look after our own.
>
> How do I repay the bod who realised I wasn't in his mirror anymore and
> came back to look for me, found me unconscious and bleeding, called the
> ambulance, and found someone to look after my bike? A man I didn't know
> from Adam?

A class bloke tho
>
> He did it because I was a biker and he was a biker and we look after
> our own. I can't pay him in money, but the times I've helped others
> before that and after it are the currency I pay him in. And the currency
> others pay me in.
I dont always agree with you Zebee. But sometimes you are very very
right

Dave