BikeWebSite is Free Until Jan 1. Merry Christmas!



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Hi Folks, www.bikewebsite.com is free until January 1. Merry Christmas!
- Jeff
 
Jeff Napier wrote:
> Hi Folks, www.bikewebsite.com is free until January 1. Merry Christmas!

Does that imply that it will be a pay site after January 1? Sheldon's site is free, and has tons
more information.

Who would pay for your ****?

Greg

--
"Walking under ladders for a living You know we should be running round in pubs and bars We know
we'll never grow short And we'll never grow tall" - the Mekons
 
On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:23:18 GMT, "Jeff Napier" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Folks, www.bikewebsite.com is free until January 1. Merry Christmas!
>- Jeff
>
Oh bother....

sigh, zzzzzzzz

bil The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind should
give an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
:-]
 
that website looks designed purely as an advert for this bloke's web design. Not sure it's a
particularly good advert, plus it's a cynical money grabbing post for a newsgroup!

"G.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:D[email protected]...
> Jeff Napier wrote:
> > Hi Folks, www.bikewebsite.com is free until January 1. Merry Christmas!
>
> Does that imply that it will be a pay site after January 1? Sheldon's
site
> is free, and has tons more information.
>
> Who would pay for your ****?
>
> Greg
>
> --
> "Walking under ladders for a living You know we should be running round in pubs and bars We know
> we'll never grow short And we'll never grow tall" - the Mekons
 
"Alex Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| that website looks designed purely as an advert for this bloke's web
design.
| Not sure it's a particularly good advert, plus it's a cynical money
grabbing
| post for a newsgroup!
|
All done in frontpage too. Jeff get a copy of Dreamweaver and move forward.

Simon
 
Simon wrote:
> "Alex Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | that website looks designed purely as an advert for this bloke's web
> design.
> | Not sure it's a particularly good advert, plus it's a cynical money
> grabbing
> | post for a newsgroup!
> |
> All done in frontpage too. Jeff get a copy of Dreamweaver and move forward.
>
> Simon
>

Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?

Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
 
"Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Simon wrote:
> > "Alex Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > | that website looks designed purely as an advert for this bloke's web
> > design.
> > | Not sure it's a particularly good advert, plus it's a cynical money
> > grabbing
> > | post for a newsgroup!
> > |
> > All done in frontpage too. Jeff get a copy of Dreamweaver and move forward.
> >
> > Simon
> >
>
> Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
>
> Jon "Commander Purist" Bond

Ohhh, you're brutal!
--
Slacker
 
"Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]>

<snip>

| Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
|
| Jon "Commander Purist" Bond

Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from scratch unless you're going to be
doing web design for a living?

Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
interesting/richer web pages

--
Pete "Commander Realist" Fagerlin

http://www.petefagerlin.com
 
Pete Fagerlin wrote:
> "Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]>
>
> <snip>
>
> | Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
> |
> | Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
>
> Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from scratch unless you're going to
> be doing web design for a living?
>
> Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
> interesting/richer web pages
>
> --
> Pete "Commander Realist" Fagerlin
>
> http://www.petefagerlin.com
>
>

I should have said DHTML... javascript, VBscript, CSS, all those fun things.

I haven't made a webpage in a while, but I made some pretty frickin' nice ones with notepad. Sure, I
had to look a lot of stuff up, borrow javascripts from websites (www.javascriptsource.com,
www.bratta.com and the like), etc., but learning to use HTML lets you know its capabilities and its
limits. You know what is possible, and what you'll have to use shockwave, java, or a similar object
for, what you can't do at all, and what you can write a sweet, streamlined, small, quick DHTML file
for. THEN, if you want, you can use dreamweaver or any of those.

I'll probably end up making a webpage sooner or later, most likely for tufts cycling, and I'll post
it. The majority of the page will be written in notebook or something of the like, with maybe a bit
with a program to save some time.

Jon "Commander" Bond
 
"Pete Fagerlin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> "Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]>
>
> <snip>
>
> | Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
> |
> | Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
>
> Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from scratch unless you're going to
> be doing web design for a living?
>
> Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
> interesting/richer web pages

This is sort of like limiting yourself by building your own bike. Why waste the time to learn bike
assembly/ repair unless you're going to be doing bike repair for a living

Bring on the factory assembled bikes if it makes better looking/better riding/ red bikes.

I like hand coding my site mostly because I like to use PHP/ python scripting to automate stuff. It
is difficult to integrate scripting in pages designed using Frontpage/ Dreamweaver.

-- The Ogre http://ogrehut.com
 
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:38:28 GMT, "Pete Fagerlin" <[email protected]> wrote:

I can't believe all the shop talking.

Where G.T. when you need him. Please take this over to

ALT.SHOPTALK.IN.AN.MTB.NG

Bill(leaves that shoptalk at work...who needs it?!)Wheeler

The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
:-]
 
"Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
|
|
| Pete Fagerlin wrote:
| > "Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]>
| >
| > <snip>
| >
| > | Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
| > |
| > | Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
| >
| > Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from
scratch
| > unless you're going to be doing web design for a living?
| >
| > Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
| > interesting/richer web pages
| >
| > --
| > Pete "Commander Realist" Fagerlin
| >
| > http://www.petefagerlin.com
| >
| >
|
| I should have said DHTML... javascript, VBscript, CSS, all those fun things.
|
| I haven't made a webpage in a while, but I made some pretty frickin' nice ones with notepad. Sure,
| I had to look a lot of stuff up, borrow javascripts from websites (www.javascriptsource.com,
| www.bratta.com and the like), etc., but learning to use HTML lets you know its capabilities and
| its limits. You know what is possible, and what you'll have to use shockwave, java, or a similar
| object for, what you can't do at all, and what you can write a sweet, streamlined, small, quick
| DHTML file for.

Why bother when Dreamweaver does it for you, in a much more compact and clean manner?

| THEN, if you want, you can use dreamweaver or any of those.

Why wait?

--
Pete Fagerlin

http://www.petefagerlin.com
 
Michael Dart wrote:
> "Slacker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>>Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Alex Robinson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>| that website looks designed purely as an advert for this bloke's web
>>>>design.
>>>>| Not sure it's a particularly good advert, plus it's a cynical money
>>>>grabbing
>>>>| post for a newsgroup!
>>>>|
>>>>All done in frontpage too. Jeff get a copy of Dreamweaver and move
>>>
> forward.
>
>>>>Simon
>>>>
>>>
>>>Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
>>>
>>>Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
>>
>>Ohhh, you're brutal!
>>--
>>Slacker

Yeah I am!

> Sheesh! the next thing you know he'll be ridin' a SS!
>
> Mike

Well, if I end up getting a new frame this summer (90% chance of that), then my kaitai is going to
be sanded, repainted, and transformed into a SS off road/commuting bike. It'll probably keep the z2
atom bomb on there because I like that fork, and the bike handles pretty well with it, but it's too
short for the new fullies (65-70 mm of travel vs. 100).

Jon "Commander" Bond
 
Jonathan Bond wrote:

> I'll probably end up making a webpage sooner or later, most likely for tufts cycling, and I'll
> post it. The majority of the page will be written in notebook or something of the like, with maybe
> a bit with a program to save some time.

If you're going to program HTML (and I don't discourage it), at least get yourself an HTML editor.
I'm currently playing with Bluefish, which is pretty nice. Although not available for Windows.

--
a.m-b FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/ambfaq.htm

b.bmx FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/bmx_faq.htm
 
"Dennis Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message

<snip>

| > Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from
scratch
| > unless you're going to be doing web design for a living?
| >
| > Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
| > interesting/richer web pages
|
| This is sort of like limiting yourself by building your own bike. Why waste the time to learn bike
| assembly/ repair unless you're going to be doing bike repair for a living

That is an absolutely horrible analogy.

You don't need to know how to code HTML to make an interesting site nor do you need that skill to
"maintain" a site.

| Bring on the factory assembled bikes if it makes better looking/better riding/ red bikes.

Again, horrible analogy. See above.

| I like hand coding my site mostly because I like to use PHP/ python scripting to automate stuff.
| It is difficult to integrate scripting in pages designed using Frontpage/ Dreamweaver.

Bully for you then!

There is no absolute need to hand code to get a rich, interesting site.

In fact, most of the truly horrible/bad sites that I see have been hand coded.

--
Pete Fagerlin

Save Fruita Trails! http://www.petefagerlin.com/bookcliffs.htm
 
Bill Wheeler wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:38:28 GMT, "Pete Fagerlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I can't believe all the shop talking.
>
> Where G.T. when you need him. Please take this over to
>
>

The only thing off-topic here is adult BMX.

Greg
--
"Walking under ladders for a living You know we should be running round in pubs and bars We know
we'll never grow short And we'll never grow tall" - the Mekons
 
> >>>Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
> >>>
> >>>Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
> >>
> >>Ohhh, you're brutal!
> >>--
> >>Slacker
>
>
> Yeah I am!

You know what I just realized.....you are your Dad ;~ o
--
Slacker - 3rd and 7, going deep!
 
Pete Fagerlin wrote:
> "Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> |
> |
> | Pete Fagerlin wrote:
> | > "Jonathan Bond" <[email protected]>
> | >
> | > <snip>
> | >
> | > | Or how about a copy of notepad and learn how to actually write HTML?
> | > |
> | > | Jon "Commander Purist" Bond
> | >
> | > Why limit yourself to HTML? Why waste the time to learn HTML from
> scratch
> | > unless you're going to be doing web design for a living?
> | >
> | > Bring on the web design software if it makes better looking/better functioning/more
> | > interesting/richer web pages
> | >
> | > --
> | > Pete "Commander Realist" Fagerlin
> | >
> | > http://www.petefagerlin.com
> | >
> | >
> |
> | I should have said DHTML... javascript, VBscript, CSS, all those fun things.
> |
> | I haven't made a webpage in a while, but I made some pretty frickin' nice ones with notepad.
> | Sure, I had to look a lot of stuff up, borrow javascripts from websites
> | (www.javascriptsource.com, www.bratta.com and the like), etc., but learning to use HTML lets you
> | know its capabilities and its limits. You know what is possible, and what you'll have to use
> | shockwave, java, or a similar object for, what you can't do at all, and what you can write a
> | sweet, streamlined, small, quick DHTML file for.
>
> Why bother when Dreamweaver does it for you, in a much more compact and clean manner?
>
> | THEN, if you want, you can use dreamweaver or any of those.
>
> Why wait?
>

I'm just being argumentative tonight because I've been programming VBA for the past 5 hours.

Hey, BTW, mind if I use one of your pictures at the top of my spreadsheet for my intro to
engineering final project (the VBA thing, I built a semi-automated, auto-compatibility check bike
builder deal thats actually semi-decent).

Jon "Commander" Bond

> --
> Pete Fagerlin
>
> http://www.petefagerlin.com
 
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