Bought my first bike today! what else do i need right away?

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  1. Porknz

    Porknz New Member

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    I just bought my first bike today! I obviously need to get pedals and a lock. What else do I need right away to start long, casual rides? Thanks!
     
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    Froze Well-Known Member

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    Congrats, now all you need to do is go ride it and have fun!

    You shouldn't rush out doing long miles, don't forget you need to get back too! Also, you don't want to hurt yourself either, or get overtired and suffer burnout. So here is a training schedule that can help you reach a 100-mile ride, this schedule is for intermediate riders, but when I looked it over I think a beginner would be fine using it. If riding 100 miles in a day is not your goal you can simply shorten to whatever amount of distance you want to ride. This is a good starting training program, it enables you to work on building up base miles, later you can get more technical to increase speed by doing intervals. Anyway see this:

    http://www.angelsofaction.org/wp-co...an-16-week-intermediate-experienced-rider.pdf

    As you are doing this change the route, find a bunch of routes so you don't get into a boring routine...unless you're the type of person who likes boring routines!

    Next, you need to go on YouTube and watch videos on how to fix a flat on the road. So the first video shows you how to do that by replacing the flatted tube with a new spare tube: https://www.google.com/search?q=how...me&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_sZsDYOCaC4SDtQbD_5zQBQ13

    The next video shows you how to fix that tube you flatted, while this video will push Park tools it's still a good video:

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0F_hibWHlU


    Of course, in order to fix a flat, you need a few tools, nothing really expensive though. The first thing you need is a good mini pump, most mini pumps are not good at pumping despite their claims of reaching 160 psi they would be lucky to hit 70 psi, not enough for a road bike. So the best one on the market, in my opinion, is the Lezyne Road Drive or if you want a built-in PSI gauge there is the Digital Road Drive. There are maybe 3 or 4 others that are also decent, but the Road Drive will get to operating PSI in fewer strokes than those others, but they too will get to operating psi just takes more effort.

    You also need a set of tire irons, there are two really nice ones on the market, the first one is the Pedros Tire Lever, and the other is the Soma Steel Core Tire Lever, I like the Soma the best and I own both so I've tried them both; nothing wrong with the Pedros, but plastic has me concerned in really cold weather for fear they might snap, I've had that happen but not with the Soma.

    You also need a patch kit. Starting out I would go with the Rema TT 02 Touring Repair Kit, I think Rema is the best glue on patches, again an opinion. Once you figure out how to do those, then ask me about using Park Super Glueless Patches, they're a tad more difficult to use but they're all I've used in the last 25 years or so with no failure except for 2 in the very beginning, and failures with other brands, Park is the best one. The problem with glue on patches is that once you open the glue to use it will dry out eventually inside the tube, so every season you need to buy a new tube of glue, not expensive but it needs to be done. With glueless patches there is no glue tube...HOWEVER, the adhesive on the patches will dry out and those should be replaced every year, again not expensive. Of course without a glue tube that's just one less thing to store.

    You should also get a seat bag large enough to hold a spare tube, the tire irons, and the patch kit, with a bit of room to spare so you can add stuff as you go. The best one on the market is the Topeak Wedge Drybag with a strap mount. But if you want to save money then get the BV Bicycle Strap-On Bike Saddle Bag, this bag is a fantastic bag at an incredibly low price, it compares to any bag out there regardless of the price other than waterproof ones like the Topeak I mentioned. I have both of those as well, I use the Topeak on my touring bike, but I use the BV on my commuter and on my weekend bike. I did spray the BV bag with a waterproof spray, but that stuff only does so much, but like I said it's a great bag, and it expands!

    You'll need water bottle cages, just buy whatever you like, there isn't a big deal between any of them unless you're a weight weenie, I just find something that matches my bike. I do like 50 Strong Bicycle Cage, it's made in the USA, and on Amazon, you can get a two-pack for $11 and it's reasonably lightweight, but it only comes in shiny black, if you don't like that color simply find any cage you do like.

    With those cages you'll need water bottles, I prefer Camelbak Podium Ice because I like my drinks to stay cold for as long as possible, though when I tour I use the Camebak vacuum bottles because I want stuff to stay cold for the entire day, not for just 3 to 4 hours.

    You should also consider getting a floor pump, but if money is tight you can use the mini pump till you get the money. The best one for the money is the Lezyne Steel Floor Drive I think.

    Anyway, that should get you started, others will have a different opinion than mine, so you have to read those and see what fits your needs the best. I will add just be careful, if you get a cheaper mini pump you will be very dissatisfied with it the first you use it! You could get a cheap floor pump from Walmart for under $20 and it will last 2 or 3 years, maybe 4 if you're lucky, but if money is an issue that's one way to get what you need now and wait till something breaks and get something better down the road.
     
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    This is fantastic! I spent the day today looking at maps of local trails, which got me to thinking, a bike rack would be nice so that I could drive to designated trails a little easier. Thinking about the Kuat 2.0 base. Maybe when my REI dividend comes through. Can't wait until April and the snow melts to get out there. Will definitely watch this video and learn about fixing a flat. That sounds key. Also, thinking about bags. Any preference to under seat, vs front, vs frame, vs top tube? Also, with no tools at all, are there full...starter kits? (Bags - it's a Salsa Journey Sora, so I'm trying to stick to the bolt on options I think. Seems like that makes the most sense?) Thanks so much for taking the time to help a new guy.
     
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    Since I don't know you I have no clue as to what your abilities are when it comes to fixing a bike. If your abilities are nonexistent then why take tools? If you do have a good mechanical aptitude and can repair bikes then look into getting a mini tool. Because I ride 30 to 50 miles from home, plus do bike camping I carry a chunky Park MTB-3 mini tool, it will do almost anything except weld! Ok, it also won't pull cranks, so major repairs are out, but major repairs are extremely rare, most bike problems are minor, heck I can't even remember the last time I had a breakdown. I did use the tool to make a seat adjustment but that's hardly a breakdown.

    But most people just carry minimal tools and a cell phone, I do carry a cell phone but in the last 38 years of being married, I've only had to call my wife three times, once because I got diarrhea really bad and I couldn't ride, so she came and got me, and the other time I had a bike crash and was at a hospital; and the last time I called her was just 3 months ago when my seat broke while on a camping trip, I tried to fix it but it was beyond repair and I can't ride a loaded touring bike while standing constantly for 45 miles! otherwise, I stay independent when I ride. My wife is my wife, not my mommy, and I refuse to have her come get me, I will walk if I have to...well as long as it isn't walking 45 miles with a loaded bike! Even if I had a nonrepairable breakdown 20 miles out on an unloaded bike I would call her at that point since a 6 to 7 hour walk would make my wife worry.

    I know people who call their mommies, err, I mean wives, because they got a flat?! Strange as that sounds it's true.

    Heck, my wife has called me a lot while I've been riding since I started to carry a cell phone, usually wanting to know when I'll be back.

    I would start with an under-seat bag, you really don't need any other bag unless you're wanting to do camping of course. I did mention a couple of bags in my first comment to you, you have figure out all the stuff you want to carry
     
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    I would like to be able to fix a flat on the trail for sure, so I'll start learning. I'll ask my local bike shop to set me up with what I need to do that on the trail too. I guess at the very least, if I'm somewhere a vehicle can't drive, or where I don't get cell coverage (does that exist anymore?) I want to be able just fix a flat and then keep going. Thanks.
     
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    I still run into areas while riding where there is no cell coverage and I use AT&T, when I was with T-Mobil there were more areas with no cell coverage, heck even within the city where I live there were spots without cell coverage on the T-Mobil network! While I don't get that anymore with AT&T inside the city there are few isolated areas out in the country where I live where there is no coverage, also one of the places I camp at has no coverage; I have to ride about a mile out of the camp to get a cell. In some states like Michigan, Wyoming, Texas, etc, out in the more isolated areas, you could go for miles without a signal.
     
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    Okay. I like to shop. I have pedals picked out now, and a hitch rack picked out, and bags picked out. I think a helmet is an easy item to pick up at my local shop, as are needed repair kit items, and a cage and water bottle. I'm trying to get into clothing next. I'm thinking I need to at least get a pair of padded bibs and a couple of jerseys.

    Are there retail sites or brands that the forum generally trusts/supports etc.?
     
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    I ran into Twinsix today, and found they are local. Anyone have experience with Twinsix?
     
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    Ahhhhh, a new bike! Congrats! What kind of bike.....road bike or mountain or other? But the must haves for me would be:

    - helmet
    - extra tubes
    - a patch kit
    - decent pump
    - gloves
    - tire levers

    Then go ride and learn the bike. You will learn other things to add as you go along but right now these will keep you riding.
     
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    Purple Salsa Journeyman Sora 650b. I'm hoping it gives me lots of options for routes.
     
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    Multiple people have mentioned a pump so that I go out with the right amount of air in my tires every trip. I haven't done any research into pumps. Any suggestions to start with? :)
    (Sorry, I forgot the Lezyne was mentioned already.)
     
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    I have a Park Tool floor pump for pre-ride. But for flats on the road I have a CO2 inflator and carry a few cartridges. Some people hate this method but have yet to find a frame pump that actually works without killing your hands and arms.
     
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    Congrats, Enjoy it

    Upgrading your pedals and shoes will change your life. Not that expensive.
     
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    Froze Well-Known Member

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    I think I mentioned this before but the Lezyne Road Drive mini-pump in the largest size of the 3 sizes they offer is a fantastic pump, it will reach higher psi than any other mini pump, and do it in fewer strokes and less effort. If you're short on cash you should buy the mini pump first so you can take it with you obviously, and then use it at home till you can afford a floor pump. Now a mini, no matter how good it is, won't work as easily as a floor pump, that's the advantage of a larger pump! But a mini will suffice till you get the extra cash for the floor pump.

    Another option, though most people that ride road bikes would frown on this, and that is to buy a full-size frame pump instead of a mini or a floor pump, a full-size frame pump is almost as good as a floor pump, it's easy to pump and takes far fewer strokes than a mini but a bit more than a floor pump. I think the best one is the Zefal HPX, this thing is so well built you can use it as a club to beat an attacking dog, ask me how I know! I use that pump on my touring bike because I can't outrun a dog with a loaded bike, but not on my road bike, but if I was a beginner I would use it as my only pump, then later I would buy a mini and use the frame pump as a home pump unless you're perfectly fine carrying around a frame pump. A-frame pump fits between the head tube and the seat tube, so you have to measure that distance in MM so you get the right size.

    If the current pedals are working for you then I would use those till they have a malfunction, you can get good shoes without spending a small fortune too, but before you buy a shoe you need to ask yourself will you like to ride someplace and walk a bit once you get there, if so then you'll need a shoe that can do that. You should go to several bike shops and have them fit a shoe to your feet, buying off the internet and second-guessing your foot width front and rear will make you uncomfortable riding, plus the shop will align the forward and aft of the cleat to line up with your boney protrusion on your feet, and they do that for free. Bontrager and Shimano make good shoes for less money than the standard Italian fare. When you go into a shop to buy shoes take your bike with you so they can make sure they get the shoe with the correct cleats for the pedals you have. If the place you go to sold your bike they should be more than happy to make sure that when you wear the shoes and are on the pedals that they align the knee to the pedal spindle for free as well, it takes about 5 minutes to do that, they just move the seat a bit forward or backward, but those 5 minutes will make you more comfortable. So ask them to do that for you.

    Also if you haven't ever used cleated shoes that lock onto the pedal it's best to practice engaging and disengaging with one foot while the other is on the ground. Speaking of that most pedals have an adjustment for the amount of force needed to disengage, I would set for the least amount of force, don't worry your foot won't come off the pedal unexpected because it's based on the rear foot angle, and pedaling doesn't require your rear foot to move 30 or so degrees outward, so you will remain cleated while riding, but the lessor tension is so when you come to a stop and you're struggling to try to get out the pedal at a higher tension so you don't stall the bike and fall down and go BOOM. The bike shop can set your pedals up for that too which will take them 1 minute for each pedal.

    Don't forget to utilize Youtube videos to learn anything you want to know concerning anything that has to do with cycling, even simple stuff like flat repairs, to more complicated repairs.
     
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    Like only one person above has said, get a helmet. Crashes are inevitable - you will go down at some point.

    I have broken 3 helmets - better that the helmet breaks instead of my head.
     
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    See all that plastic stuff that's hanging off the bike? The reflectors on the spokes? The plastic thingy that goes behind the cassette? Those mark your bike out as being three things: unridden, owned by a total newbie and complying fully with road regulations concerning cycling
     
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