Boycott of Canadian seafood



On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:48:15 -0500, Dave Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>> I hate those hunts too, (those big eyed, fluffy white babies are SO
>> adorable!) but it seems that they are a necessary thing. :-(
>
>If baby seals were as ugly as lobsters no one would give a damn.
>


Is someone clubbing lobsters? Don't they get carded at the door?
That'd make for a Donna Summer Lobster Fest.

Boron
 
"Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Gabby wrote:
>>
>> Are you guys hearing much about this boycott organized
>> by the United States' Humane Society to try to force
>> the closure of the seal hunt?
>> Gabby
>
> Is any of that seal imported into the U.S.?
> I'd sure like to try some, whether or not
> it's anything fantastic. I just want to
> know what it's like.
>
> Would it be easy to get in Vancouver?
> Do many restaurants offer it?

I not aware that the meat is marketed in the US -- or anywhere else for that
matter. The commercial hunt is mainly for the pelts and usually the
carcasses are left behind on the ice floes (although some body parts have
made it to the Orient as Viagra substitutes). ;o) The small seal
hunters, as opposed to the large seal hunting operations, eat the meat and
seal flipper pie is considered a local delicacy. In the last couple of
years a company has started marketing seal oil capsules as a great source of
omega3 oils.

Like most wild meat, there are those who would walk miles for seal meat and
those who can't stomach the stuff. I've never tasted it, but I hear that,
depending on how it's cooked, it can be quite good. OTOH, I've seen the
bottled product and it's made me gag.

Gabby
 
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

>
> >
> > Don't recall the exact numbers but ISTR that every year several hundred folx
> > at least and many thousands more are injured in deer - vehicle accidents
> > (the most being in Michigan IIRC), they are a real menace.
>
> The deer are MUCH larger in Michigan!
> By a few hundred pounds I think?
>
> A 150 lb. buck here is a big one.

There are different species of deer. Most of the deer in the Great Lakes are are
White Tail , the odd big buck might get up over 200 lb, but the average weight is
close to 150 lb.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > I hate those hunts too, (those big eyed, fluffy white babies are SO
> > adorable!) but it seems that they are a necessary thing. :-(
>
> If baby seals were as ugly as lobsters no one would give a damn.
>
>

Sad isn't it?
We judge the value of a life based on beauty?
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Don't recall the exact numbers but ISTR that every year several hundred
> > > folx
> > > at least and many thousands more are injured in deer - vehicle accidents
> > > (the most being in Michigan IIRC), they are a real menace.
> >
> > The deer are MUCH larger in Michigan!
> > By a few hundred pounds I think?
> >
> > A 150 lb. buck here is a big one.
>
> There are different species of deer. Most of the deer in the Great Lakes are
> are
> White Tail , the odd big buck might get up over 200 lb, but the average
> weight is
> close to 150 lb.
>

Ah. I was thinking Mule Deer...... ;-)
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>
> > >
> > > We call 'em rats with hooves.
> >
> > Don't recall the exact numbers but ISTR that every year several hundred
> > folx
> > at least and many thousands more are injured in deer - vehicle accidents
> > (the most being in Michigan IIRC), they are a real menace.
> >
> > Every fall my hometown (downstate Illannoy) newspaper's "blotter" section
> > is
> > filled with such accident reports...
>
> Many years ago I worked on a road maintenance crew that looked after a 20
> mile
> stretch of highway. We used to pick up at least one deer carcass per week.
> In
> the last year there have been three deer killed on my street within a half
> mile
> from my place.
>
> I know several people who have totalled their cars hitting deer, one guy
> twice.
> Two of them were in Michigan, one in Florida and one in Virginia.
>
> If you think hitting a deer is a bad thing you don't want to know about
> moose.
> They are two to three times taller than a deer and weigh 5-6 times as much.
> If
> you hit them at speed with a car you knock their legs out from under them and
> that 1,000 lb. plus body comes through the front window.
>

Squish. :-(
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
Gabby wrote:

>Are you guys hearing much about this boycott organized by the United States'
>Humane Society to try to force the closure of the seal hunt?
>
>Gabby
>
>
>
>
Oh please no, not another boycott! Canadians are even harder to identify
than Muslims :-(

Christine
 
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:44:04 GMT, "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Are you guys hearing much about this boycott organized by the United States'
>Humane Society to try to force the closure of the seal hunt?

Is the specific group the "Humane Society of the United States"? The
HSUS isn't the same thing at all as your local Humane Society. It's a
very thinly-veiled front for PETA. And my opinion of PETA involves
language I'll not use in this group.

ObFood: I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat roots and
berries.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge
 
Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
things made of sealskin.
 
On 2006-02-28, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm within city limits and you cannot discharge firearms.....

They've got some pretty trick hunting bows and arrows, these days.

nb
 
"lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
> their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
> them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
> difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
> withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
> things made of sealskin.

The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of the
boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.

Gabby
 
On 2006-02-28, Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> If baby seals were as ugly as lobsters no one would give a damn.

I don't give a damn, now. Anyone know where to buy a sealskin coat?

nb
 
In article <[email protected]>,
notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2006-02-28, OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm within city limits and you cannot discharge firearms.....
>
> They've got some pretty trick hunting bows and arrows, these days.
>
> nb

Yeah, I have a full size crossbow, but have not gotten around to
assembling it yet. ;-)

It takes up less space in it's box. <sigh>

Grand ideas, short on time........

and space.

If I want a deer bad enough, all I have to do is put a brush guard on
the front of the truck and drive some of the back roads at night. <G>

I generally just ask my freinds that have property. I have a fresh
venison haunch in the freezer right now that Dad's buddy gave us. I've
not decided what to do with it yet.

Probably 1 slow roast and 1 stew.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
> > their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
> > them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
> > difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
> > withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
> > things made of sealskin.
>
> The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
> fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of the
> boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
>
> Gabby

But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.

It's a no win situation.
The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>"lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
>>>their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
>>>them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
>>>difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
>>>withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
>>>things made of sealskin.
>>
>>The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
>>fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of the
>>boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
>>
>>Gabby
>
>
> But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
> fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.
>
> It's a no win situation.
> The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!

The only thing I've seen on the boycott is boycotting Red Lobster. Now
I only saw that because I was looking for the RL logo for a project.
The boycott is interesting but quite frankly I have so many other life
demands right now that I will just have to settle for proper composting
and recycling.
 
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
>> > their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
>> > them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
>> > difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
>> > withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
>> > things made of sealskin.
>>
>> The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
>> fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of
>> the
>> boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
>>
>> Gabby
>
> But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
> fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.
>
> It's a no win situation.
> The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!
> --

Yes, there's something wrong with boycotting A because you don't like what B
is doing and want A to make B stop.


--
Peter Aitken
 
In article <[email protected]>,
~patches~ <[email protected]> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
> >>>their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
> >>>them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
> >>>difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
> >>>withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
> >>>things made of sealskin.
> >>
> >>The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
> >>fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of
> >>the
> >>boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
> >>
> >>Gabby
> >
> >
> > But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
> > fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.
> >
> > It's a no win situation.
> > The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!
>
> The only thing I've seen on the boycott is boycotting Red Lobster. Now
> I only saw that because I was looking for the RL logo for a project.
> The boycott is interesting but quite frankly I have so many other life
> demands right now that I will just have to settle for proper composting
> and recycling.

I boycott Red Lobster anyway, because their food SUCKS!!!

WAY Way way too salty!
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-*****." -Jack Nicholson
 
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> ~patches~ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>> "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
>>>>>their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
>>>>>them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
>>>>>difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice floes
>>>>>withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott are
>>>>>things made of sealskin.
>>>>
>>>>The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
>>>>fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of
>>>>the
>>>>boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
>>>>
>>>>Gabby
>>>
>>>
>>>But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
>>>fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.
>>>
>>>It's a no win situation.
>>>The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!
>>
>>The only thing I've seen on the boycott is boycotting Red Lobster. Now
>>I only saw that because I was looking for the RL logo for a project.
>>The boycott is interesting but quite frankly I have so many other life
>>demands right now that I will just have to settle for proper composting
>>and recycling.
>
>
> I boycott Red Lobster anyway, because their food SUCKS!!!
>
> WAY Way way too salty!


Well we don't really boycott RL but we likely don't eat there much more
than one every 3 - 4 years. Friends of our really wanted to go there so
we went along. The food wasn't all that bad IIRC but I've had better
<shrug> The project pics came out really nice! I did a 5" x 7" of her
that she just loved. Personally I think lobster done at home is better
but that likely depends on the cook ;) Out the door...
 
"Peter Aitken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "lavenderblue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> > Seals aren't actually sea food, they are mammals which are killed for
>>> > their skins; and people who fish for crabs go out in boats and catch
>>> > them in traps. You not eating snow crab won't make the slightest
>>> > difference to a seal hunter, who as far as i know goes out on ice
>>> > floes
>>> > withn a gun. If the seal hunt bothers you, what you want to boycott
>>> > are
>>> > things made of sealskin.
>>>
>>> The boycott of seafood, if successful, would have an impact on the
>>> fisheries, the same industry that regulates the seal hunt. The point of
>>> the
>>> boycott is to hurt Canada, not the seal hunter personally.
>>>
>>> Gabby
>>
>> But if they stopped seal hunting, it would damage Canada's entire
>> fishing industry due to the over-population of the seals.
>>
>> It's a no win situation.
>> The Boycott would be STUPID and POINTLESS!!!
>> --
>
> Yes, there's something wrong with boycotting A because you don't like what
> B is doing and want A to make B stop.

But that's not the scenario with this boycott. The boycott is of a
country's product, to force the country to stop something it's doing.
Ultimately, the same people will be hurt by the boycott or the stop of the
seal hunt. A great number of the people who hunt seals also fish crab,
doing both is the only way to keep food on the table and a roof over the
family's head.

Gabby
 
OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> I boycott Red Lobster anyway, because their food SUCKS!!!
>

From my experiences there I thought it would have been okay if the food had been
priced according to its quality. It would have been acceptable at about half the
price.
 
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