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  1. "ravenlynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PeterLucas said:

    Tracy R. <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    > Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >
    >
    > Most will say "axe"
    You'd be mistaken. I seldom here that pronunciation in the US; it's
    considered low class.

    Then only the 'low class' Yanks must be portrayed on TV.

    BTW, here, and hear.

    Most educated people don't assume that everything on tv is necessarily
    correct or true.

    --
    -Gina in Italy

    http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
    I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

    Nice cross-stitch -- beautiful pattern.
    Dee Dee (who doesn't do cross-stitch, but appreciates the art.)

  2. "ravenlynne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PeterLucas said:

    Tracy R. <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    > Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >
    >
    > Most will say "axe"
    You'd be mistaken. I seldom here that pronunciation in the US; it's
    considered low class.

    Then only the 'low class' Yanks must be portrayed on TV.

    BTW, here, and hear.

    Most educated people don't assume that everything on tv is necessarily
    correct or true.

    --
    -Gina in Italy

    http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
    I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

    Nice cross-stitch -- beautiful pattern.
    Dee Dee (who doesn't do cross-stitch, but appreciates the art.)

  3. On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:13:10 +1300, Miche <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Miche said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Pennyaline said:

    Miche wrote:
    > Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> Right. We might be out of step "there," but not "here."
    >
    > I'm in New Zealand. There is no "here" on the intarwebs. 😉

    <heavy sigh>

    Then on the 'web, you're not in New Zealand??

    Depends on whose news server my message is on, doesn't it?

    (My news server is in the Channel Islands!)

    Miche

    (Yes, Pennyaline, I know I'm being contrary. Mostly I just ask the
    poster where "here" is for them. Some people -- and I'm not saying
    you're one -- do need the occasional reminder that the Interwebs extend
    outside their national borders.)

    Miche

    hell, some people need to be reminded that not everyone shops at the
    same grocery store they do.

    your pal,
    blake

  4. [email hidden] (Little Malice) wrote in news:fga9se$120o2_002
    @news.avvanta.com:

    Quoted message said:
    One time on Usenet said:

    [email hidden] (Little Malice) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Of course we don't. That's what happens when you base your impressions
    of a country and/or its people by watching television...

    Or maybe approx 18months living in/around LA :-)

    My main claim to fame there was that I taught Carl Weathers and Dudley
    Moore how to say 'scone' properly :-)

    *And* how much froth to *not* have on top of a Cappuccino!!

    Starbucks, Santa Monica, early '90's.

    We're talking about the U.S., Peter. Southern CA doesn't count... ;-)

    Yeah, down there they all speak Spanish :-)

  5. ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in news:fga95s02c98
    @news3.newsguy.com:

    Quoted message said:
    PeterLucas said:

    Tracy R. <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    > Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >
    >
    > Most will say "axe"
    You'd be mistaken. I seldom here that pronunciation in the US; it's
    considered low class.

    Then only the 'low class' Yanks must be portrayed on TV.

    BTW, here, and hear.

    Most educated people don't assume that everything on tv is necessarily
    correct or true.

    (LOL!! You've obviously missed the post I recently made about living in
    CA.)

    But to answer your post, sad as it may be, most US 'customs' are picked
    up by our younger people from just that medium.... TV.

    So maybe all Yanks should petition their movie studios/TV stations to
    only air shows that show Americans in a 'true light'........ like Jerry
    Springer does ;-P

  6. ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    PeterLucas said:


    Was watching TV tonight and once again saw the great advancement that
    the US has made with the English language.

    Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.

    Most will say "axe"

    No, most will not.

    Quite a large majority would. But we know that the people here are not in
    that majority :-)

  7. One time on Usenet said:

    ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    PeterLucas said:


    Was watching TV tonight and once again saw the great advancement that
    the US has made with the English language.

    Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.

    Most will say "axe"

    No, most will not.

    Quite a large majority would. But we know that the people here are not in
    that majority :-)

    FWIW, I know a lot of folks from lots of backgrounds in a
    lot of states. I have yet to meet anyone who says "axe" instead
    of "ask". I'm not saying some don't, but it's definitely not the
    majority...

    --
    Jani in WA

  8. Little Malice said:


    One time on Usenet said:

    ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    PeterLucas wrote:
    >
    > Was watching TV tonight and once again saw the great advancement that
    > the US has made with the English language.
    >
    > Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >
    >
    > Most will say "axe"
    >
    >

    No, most will not.

    Quite a large majority would. But we know that the people here are not in
    that majority :-)

    FWIW, I know a lot of folks from lots of backgrounds in a
    lot of states. I have yet to meet anyone who says "axe" instead
    of "ask". I'm not saying some don't, but it's definitely not the
    majority...

    --
    Jani in WA

    It's very common though. I hear it around here all the time and not from
    foreigners either.

  9. Oh pshaw, on Wed 31 Oct 2007 06:33:26a, PeterLucas meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Oh pshaw, on Tue 30 Oct 2007 10:04:44p, PeterLucas meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Little Malice) wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    >
    > Of course we don't. That's what happens when you base your
    > impressions of a country and/or its people by watching television...
    >

    Or maybe approx 18months living in/around LA :-)

    My main claim to fame there was that I taught Carl Weathers and
    Dudley Moore how to say 'scone' properly :-)

    *And* how much froth to *not* have on top of a Cappuccino!!

    Starbucks, Santa Monica, early '90's.

    How clever of you. :-)

    A lesson I will gladly pass on here........

    Scone is pronounced the same as the 'scon' in ABSCOND. Not as is
    pronounced over there as 'skoan' as in ROAN.

    And when you order a Cappuccino (*especially* from Starbucks) ask for
    *this much*......

    -----------------------------

    -----------------------------

    foam.

    *NOT* this much..........

    ---------------------------------

    ---------------------------------

    Oh, and if you ever get to 'De Wolk' bar in Nationaal Paracentrum
    Teuge......... tell them you want a Skippy 4/Aussie beer with *one*
    finger of foam :-)

    Be buggered if I'm going to spend my hard earned money on foam all the
    time!!

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    __________________________________________________

    I have a rock garden, but three of them died last week.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    Miche

    --
    In the monastery office --
    Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
    After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

  11. Oh pshaw, on Wed 31 Oct 2007 08:02:42p, Miche meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    Miche

    I'll try ordering it that way next time, Miche, and see what I get. :-)

    --
    Wayne Boatwright
    __________________________________________________

    I have a rock garden, but three of them died last week.

  12. "Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    Miche

    I just saw this on the coffee group re Starbucks Capp
    Miche. you might be interested.
    Dee Dee

    Dee Dee

  13. PeterLucas said:


    (LOL!! You've obviously missed the post I recently made about living in
    CA.)

    I hadn't gotten to it at that point yet....

    Quoted message said:


    But to answer your post, sad as it may be, most US 'customs' are picked
    up by our younger people from just that medium.... TV.

    So maybe all Yanks should petition their movie studios/TV stations to
    only air shows that show Americans in a 'true light'........ like Jerry
    Springer does ;-P

    Eh..or just not watch tv...

    --
    -Gina in Italy

    http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
    I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

  14. Wayne Boatwright said:
    Quoted message said:

    Be buggered if I'm going to spend my hard earned money on foam all the
    time!!

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    Make mine a macchiato. I rarely order a cappuccino here in Naples, but
    then again, I'm rarely out before noon.

    --
    -Gina in Italy

    http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
    I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

  15. "Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    Isn't a latte, one with just a little bit of froth?

    Jen

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jen said:

    "Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    Isn't a latte, one with just a little bit of froth?

    Those who know more than I about the intricacies and nuances of coffee
    tell me there is a difference between a latte and a cappuccino with no
    foam, but I'm damned if I know what they are.

    Miche

    --
    In the monastery office --
    Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
    After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dee.Dee said:

    "Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the
    UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    I just saw this on the coffee group re Starbucks Capp
    Miche. you might be interested.
    Dee Dee

    Thanks Dee Dee, that is interesting! I'd heard about the "short
    cappuccino" before, but never ordered one. I'll have to give it a go
    the next time I feel like sticking my head inside the Evil Empire.
    Might be months away. 😉

    Miche

    --
    In the monastery office --
    Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
    After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    Oh pshaw, on Wed 31 Oct 2007 08:02:42p, Miche meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright wayneboatwright_@_gmail.com said:

    I would probably pronounce scone incorrectly if I hadn't spent time in
    the UK. As to the foam, I prefer nearly none.

    "Cappuccino, no foam" is known in New Zealand (and I think Australia) as
    a "flat white".

    I'll try ordering it that way next time, Miche, and see what I get. :-)

    I've heard from various NZ and Aus friends that if they ask for a "flat
    white" in a US coffee shop, they get looked at like they just grew a
    second head.

    It'll be interesting to see if you get the same effect with a US accent.
    🙂

    Miche

    --
    In the monastery office --
    Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
    After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

  19. On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:05:49 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, Arri London

    Quoted message said:
    Little Malice said:


    One time on Usenet said:

    ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    > PeterLucas wrote:
    >>
    >> Was watching TV tonight and once again saw the great advancement that
    >> the US has made with the English language.
    >>
    >> Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >>
    >>
    >> Most will say "axe"
    >>
    >>
    >
    > No, most will not.
    >

    Quite a large majority would. But we know that the people here are not in
    that majority :-)

    FWIW, I know a lot of folks from lots of backgrounds in a
    lot of states. I have yet to meet anyone who says "axe" instead
    of "ask". I'm not saying some don't, but it's definitely not the
    majority...

    --
    Jani in WA

    It's very common though. I hear it around here all the time and not from
    foreigners either.

    Like the Brits who say 'crips' instead of 'crisps'.

    Doug
    --
    Doug Weller --
    A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
    Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
    Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

  20. Doug Weller said:

    On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:05:49 -0700, in rec.food.cooking, Arri London

    Quoted message said:
    Little Malice said:


    One time on Usenet, PeterLucas <[email hidden]> said:
    > ravenlynne <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > news:[email hidden]:
    >
    >> PeterLucas wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Was watching TV tonight and once again saw the great advancement
    >>> that the US has made with the English language.
    >>>
    >>> Ask a Yank how to say 'ask'.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Most will say "axe"
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> No, most will not.
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    > Quite a large majority would. But we know that the people here are
    > not in that majority :-)

    FWIW, I know a lot of folks from lots of backgrounds in a
    lot of states. I have yet to meet anyone who says "axe" instead
    of "ask". I'm not saying some don't, but it's definitely not the
    majority...

    --
    Jani in WA

    It's very common though. I hear it around here all the time and not
    from foreigners either.

    Like the Brits who say 'crips' instead of 'crisps'.

    Which Brits???

    I and everyone I know says crisps!! The only people whom I have heard
    saying 'crips' have been USian!

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