British Say US Is Violent, Money-Hungry, Uncultured Nation



stevebaby said:
The Doctrine of Manifest Destiny runs very deeply in the american psyche...a doctrine that states america's destiny is to expand to control the world because,well... it's "manifestly" obvious that american "democracy" and americans are superior to everything.
well said, remember there is 'Democracy' and there is 'American Democracy'

two entriely different concepts.

Democracy was born in Europe. Another thing Americans have to thank us for.
 
MountainPro said:
The US war on terror or to put it another way, 'to gain control of valuable oil fields' is Americas war, not Britians, not Australias not Canadas but Americas.

Dress this up how ever you want but this is and always was about oil.

You see, the US is like the fat screaming child of the world. You consume resources at a rate quicker than they can be developed. You consume oil at a rate far above the rest of the world. You need oil to survive. You need oil to wage war. You have outstripped your own country and you now are picking on the mineral rich, poor countries of the world to plunder.

Western world my ****. Where is this line drawn between west and east anyway. You mean a christian war...a white war? Dont talk shite.
Actually we have our own oil off the coast of California and in Alaska.Anyway America does have a history of waging war; we've fought nazi's,communists,and now radical islamo-fascists -very nice people indeed.When more bits of Britain start blowing up it won't be America doing the bombing.
Rather than the fat child America will be called to be the parent as it is looked to as it always is for financial and military assistance.
 
justin pino said:
Rather than the fat child America will be called to be the parent as it is looked to as it always is for financial and military assistance.
America is the dictators first choice for weapons, you're right.
 
justin pino said:
Actually we have our own oil off the coast of California and in Alaska.Anyway America does have a history of waging war; we've fought nazi's,communists,and now radical islamo-fascists -

The USA started out by wiping out the Native American tribes. More recently you have fought secular Muslims in Iraq, and something entirely different in Afghanistan (the Taleban were oppressive, but they didn't operate as a fascist dictatorship : power was regionally devolved, something akin to the Swiss system).

justin pino said:
When more bits of Britain start blowing up it won't be America doing the bombing.

Statistically unlikely for any of the possible readings of that sentence. ;)

justin pino said:
Rather than the fat child America will be called to be the parent as it is looked to as it always is for financial and military assistance.

That is changing rapidly as far as the majority of the world goes.
 
MountainPro said:
America is the dictators first choice for weapons, you're right.
Please Britain, stop sending us your mediocre media "stars" the y are generally a bore and it is a fact that try as they might ,Britains cannot be cool.
 
justin pino said:
Actually we have our own oil off the coast of California and in Alaska.Anyway America does have a history of waging war; we've fought nazi's,communists,and now radical islamo-fascists -very nice people indeed.When more bits of Britain start blowing up it won't be America doing the bombing.
Rather than the fat child America will be called to be the parent as it is looked to as it always is for financial and military assistance.
The US imports almost 60% of its oil.
http://api-ec.api.org/filelibrary/AprilImports.pdf
AprilImports.pdf (application/pdf Object)
"Islamo-fascism".Let's take a look at the countries where this supposedly occurs,hmmm?
Saudia Arabia?
Iran?
Iraq?
Afghanistan?
What else do these countries have in common?
No prizes for guessing correctly that 'islamo-fascism" occurs in the countries that have suffered the most interference in their affairs by successive american governments.
Why is this so?
 
darkboong said:
The USA started out by wiping out the Native American tribes.


Just as a point of order,a great deal of the natives here had been exterminated by disease and murder (treaty negotiations) long before the US existed as an independent nation, technically speaking.
Europeans had almost 300 years negotiating (screwing over) the native inhabitants as they decided who had the manifest right (biggest army) to the land.
So the US government did not invent the killing off of the natives, but certainly made improved in the method.
 
MountainPro said:
You should be grateful to England for giving you the language.
Well, England didn't give us "the" language...Unless you have some sort of documentation like a treaty or an agreement between England and the U.S. that states such...Anyway, our language is actually superior to the language you speak..We made some much needed improvements...


You should be grateful to France for defeating the British Army on your behalf.
France hasn't defeated any army much less the brittish all on it's own. True we had some assistance from the french in the revolutionary war but the intentions of the french were to beat down on the brittish while they had "our boots" on the ground, not to help out the new Americans....

If it werent for the French you would be living in the British Foreign State of America. (has a nice ring to it)
Don't think so...Eventually, we would have gained our independence...How many brittish colonies are left now?

You have a lot to thank Europe for.
Yeah I do...2 great uncles and one great grandfather died defending Europe...I'll remember to send "Europe" a thank you card...How many europeeins have died defending the U.S.? chirp chirp....

Independance. Freedom. Liberty etc etc...American Ideals? Yeah right. We gave them to you.
Nope...we took them!
 
Something that australian aborigines need more of.
The early British governors actually treated the aborigines pretty well.They didn't give their land back of course,and the question of compensation never arose,but when the more rapacious settlers murdered aborigines the British governors hanged'em.
Disease and alcohol devastated the aborigines and still do.An aboriginal man in his 40s is considered old.They have not been served well by many australian governments and it's something that this country should be ashamed of. :mad:
 
2FAST4U said:
How many europeeins have died defending the U.S.?
When was the last time the mainland of the us was invaded?
How many of america's allies have died in america's foreign wars...Korea,Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan?
 
jhuskey said:
Just as a point of order,a great deal of the natives here had been exterminated by disease and murder (treaty negotiations) long before the US existed as an independent nation, technically speaking.

Well, at the very least the US oversaw about 100 years worth of nails in the coffins.

jhuskey said:
Europeans had almost 300 years negotiating (screwing over) the native inhabitants as they decided who had the manifest right (biggest army) to the land.

Indeed, I have pointed that out myself on several occasions... It stinks, we know better now, it is high time to quit making excuses for it.

jhuskey said:
So the US government did not invent the killing off of the natives, but certainly made improved in the method.

Granted, it is pretty tough to top the Atomic Bomb's capacity for continental massacre. A great pity for everyone concerned.
 
2FAST4U said:
our language is actually superior to the language you speak..We made some much needed improvements...
2FAST4U said:
europeeins!
yep, nice improvement...

i think you'll find that without the French to come along and liberate you, you would still be speaking the languange of your masters...oh, wait, you still are...
 
...and still citing english cases in american courts.America adopted the Common Law of England.
 
2FAST4U said:
Well, England didn't give us "the" language...Unless you have some sort of documentation like a treaty or an agreement between England and the U.S. that states such...Anyway, our language is actually superior to the language you speak..We made some much needed improvements...


France hasn't defeated any army much less the brittish all on it's own. True we had some assistance from the french in the revolutionary war but the intentions of the french were to beat down on the brittish while they had "our boots" on the ground, not to help out the new Americans....

Don't think so...Eventually, we would have gained our independence...How many brittish colonies are left now?

Yeah I do...2 great uncles and one great grandfather died defending Europe...I'll remember to send "Europe" a thank you card...How many europeeins have died defending the U.S.? chirp chirp....

Nope...we took them!
What percentage of americans remained loyal to the Crown?
Please face London,bow and tug your forelock before you answer.
 
stevebaby said:
When was the last time the mainland of the us was invaded?
How many of america's allies have died in america's foreign wars...Korea,Vietnam,Iraq,Afghanistan?
In fact,how many foreigners of all nationalities have died fighting america's wars of aggression?
 
2FAST4U said:
Well, England didn't give us "the" language...Unless you have some sort of documentation like a treaty or an agreement between England and the U.S. that states such...Anyway, our language is actually superior to the language you speak..We made some much needed improvements...


France hasn't defeated any army much less the brittish all on it's own. True we had some assistance from the french in the revolutionary war but the intentions of the french were to beat down on the brittish while they had "our boots" on the ground, not to help out the new Americans....

Don't think so...Eventually, we would have gained our independence...How many brittish colonies are left now?

Yeah I do...2 great uncles and one great grandfather died defending Europe...I'll remember to send "Europe" a thank you card...How many europeeins have died defending the U.S.? chirp chirp....

Nope...we took them!
I think you will find,if you ever actually study your history instead of parroting what you were taught in school,that the american revolution was not universally supported by many americans.Many remained loyal to the Crown and were forced to flee,either to Britain or Canada.
The us attempted to invade Canada a few times.
Canada remained loyal,and was granted independence in due course,with no loss of life.
Canada is still a member of the British Commonwealth.
Without French military support it is pretty unlikely that the revolution would have succeeded.The american revolution was actually the first Civil War.

How many battles did Napoleon's Grand Armee win? How many battles did they win in WWl,where they suffered the highest casualties?
Do you have even the faintest idea what you're talking about?
 
As was the so-called settlement of oz.This is vigorously denied by australian conservatives.
They do not regard a landing by armed marines,firing at the natives,running up the British flag and dispossessing them of their land as "invasion".
 

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