Brooks "Team Pro Select"...?

Kenneth said:

I rode for years on a Brooks saddle labeled "Team Pro

Select."

Quoted message said:

Do you know what differences, if any, there are between that saddle,
and the "Team Pro" that is made now-a-days?

IIRC that had a front adjuster with an allen bolt and a
wrench was supplied with the saddle.
Same top I believe
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:10:40 -0500, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kenneth said:

I rode for years on a Brooks saddle labeled "Team Pro

Select."

Quoted message said:

Do you know what differences, if any, there are between that saddle,
and the "Team Pro" that is made now-a-days?

IIRC that had a front adjuster with an allen bolt and a
wrench was supplied with the saddle.
Same top I believe

Howdy,

Interesting...

A gentleman from Brooks just wrote me offering the same information,
but my "Select" has the current bolt tension device.

The saddle did have a very thick top that I liked.

Do you know if the current Team Pro top is (somewhat) thicker than a
current B17?

Thanks,

--
Kenneth

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Kenneth said:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:10:40 -0500, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kenneth said:

I rode for years on a Brooks saddle labeled "Team Pro

Select."

Quoted message said:

Do you know what differences, if any, there are between that saddle,
and the "Team Pro" that is made now-a-days?

IIRC that had a front adjuster with an allen bolt and a
wrench was supplied with the saddle.
Same top I believe

Howdy,

Interesting...

A gentleman from Brooks just wrote me offering the same information,
but my "Select" has the current bolt tension device.

The saddle did have a very thick top that I liked.

Do you know if the current Team Pro top is (somewhat) thicker than a
current B17?

Yes generally but the range is wide (some B.17 will be
thicker than some Pros). Pro and Team Pro models use
according to Brooks a "specially selected" piece of hide.

Did you buy your Select new? It's entirely possible someone
jammed a metric or even an SAE allen key into the British
bolt and then replaced the ruined part with the other style.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:30:06 -0500, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kenneth said:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:10:40 -0500, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Kenneth wrote:
> I rode for years on a Brooks saddle labeled "Team Pro
Select."

>Do you know what differences, if any, there are between that saddle,
>and the "Team Pro" that is made now-a-days?

IIRC that had a front adjuster with an allen bolt and a
wrench was supplied with the saddle.
Same top I believe

Howdy,

Interesting...

A gentleman from Brooks just wrote me offering the same information,
but my "Select" has the current bolt tension device.

The saddle did have a very thick top that I liked.

Do you know if the current Team Pro top is (somewhat) thicker than a
current B17?

Yes generally but the range is wide (some B.17 will be
thicker than some Pros). Pro and Team Pro models use
according to Brooks a "specially selected" piece of hide.

Did you buy your Select new? It's entirely possible someone
jammed a metric or even an SAE allen key into the British
bolt and then replaced the ruined part with the other style.

Hi Andrew,

I just dug through my supplies and got some new information.

First, I had been describing the old saddle as a "Team Professional"
but I now see that the word "Team" does not appear on it.

On each side, the saddle shows:

PROFESSIONAL
BROOKS
SELECT

Next:

As it turns out, I have two of these, and each was purchased new. I
don't have any real idea of when.

The saddles are apparently close to identical. Each has the large
copper rivets, very thick black top, black rails, and a version of the
tension adjuster that does not have the allen head.

Looking at the front of the saddles, one sees the end "cap" in which
the adjuster shaft rotates. One is chrome (or perhaps nickel), and the
other copper color. That is the only difference that I have noticed
between the two.

The adjusters are functionally very similar to my B17, but do differ
slightly.

On the old saddles, there is the end cap, then a "shaft" area about
1/2" in length, and then the adjuster's nut.

On the new saddle, there is not the 1/2" of shaft, that is, the
adjustment nut is right near the end cap of the adjustment mechanism.

Said another way, on the old saddles, the loop end of the rails is
about 1 1/4" from the tip of the saddle. In the newer B17, that loop
end is about 3/4" from the tip.

They are indeed things of beauty!

All the best,
--
Kenneth

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