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  1. Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:
    Bill Z. said:

    "S o r n i" <[email hidden]> writes:


    ********
    OK, is everyone paying attention??? *I* didn't write ANYTHING quoted
    below!!! (And your precious newsreader can't bail you out this time,
    Zaumbie. Face it, you're just inept.)

    Quoted message said:

    >>> Occassionally I'll miss something. Curiously, I'll mistype
    >>> things in this way that I consistently get right when writing
    >>> with a pen or pencil. (BTW, in the last sentence, I started to
    >>> type 'write' instead of 'right', but caught it as I was typing.)

    {RICK wrote the below}

    Sorry about getting confused. Of course, you stated that you agreed
    100% with Rick when you wrote, "Rick Onanian wrote (nothing snipped
    'cuz it's just so damned good!!!" Now you are trying to disown the
    idiotic statement you yourself stated was "so damned good" (thus
    showing that it in fact reflected your opinion.)

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.

    ???

    Look at your post again, Zaumbie. You *ONCE AGAIN* replied to the wrong
    post -- EXACTLY LIKE THE FIRST TIME THAT STARTED ALL THIS INSIPID
    NONSENSE -- only this time without even /anything/ you attributed to me.
    (The first one at least had my newsreader's auto-generated "[censored] Durbin
    wrote:", which you later used to try to cover up your error.)

    Now you could have just said "Sorry about getting confused...PERIOD"!!!
    It's no big deal to make a mistake (although it IS deliciously ironic in
    this particular case), but you just won't admit it without trying to deflect
    blame or attention or whatever the hell it is you want onto someone else.

    It REALLY IS OK to admit a screw-up, Bill. No one is perfect; not even you.

    Bill "Rick nailed you, but you piled on yourself better than anyone else
    could have" S.

  2. S o r n i said:

    Bill Z. wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sorry about getting confused. Of course, you stated that you agreed
    100% with Rick when you wrote, "Rick Onanian wrote (nothing snipped
    'cuz it's just so damned good!!!" Now you are trying to disown the
    idiotic statement you yourself stated was "so damned good" (thus
    showing that it in fact reflected your opinion.)

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    Look at your post again, Zaumbie. You *ONCE AGAIN* replied to the wrong
    post -- EXACTLY LIKE THE FIRST TIME THAT STARTED ALL THIS INSIPID
    NONSENSE -- only this time without even /anything/ you attributed to me.

    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant? I
    snipped more than I thought this time, but the *first* time (your lies
    notwithstanding), you were quoted correctly. In this case, I snipped
    too much, but what I claimed you said was, by your own admission, actually
    your opinion, and your opinion was 100% wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    (The first one at least had my newsreader's auto-generated "[censored] Durbin
    wrote:", which you later used to try to cover up your error.)

    There wasn't an error, you moron, because those words were there. The
    attribution was obvious.

    Quoted message said:


    Now you could have just said "Sorry about getting confused...PERIOD"!!!
    It's no big deal to make a mistake (although it IS deliciously ironic in
    this particular case), but you just won't admit it without trying to deflect
    blame or attention or whatever the hell it is you want onto someone else.

    Given the level of person attacks from you, I'll damn well talk about
    what you really meant. This dicussion has zip to do with inadvertent
    errors. It is simply due to three stooges (you, Jim, and Ric) trying
    to do to people figuratively what you'd be embarassed to do to each other
    literally. Get over your hangups and we'll all be better off - at
    least nobody would hear about it. Who knows. Maybe you'd all be in
    a better mood. :-)

    Bill

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  3. Bill Z. said:


    Hey dimwit...

    There wasn't an error, you moron...

    Quoted message said:

    This dicussion has zip to do with inadvertent
    errors. It is simply due to three stooges...

    :-)

    I imagine the Buddha himself would gnash his teeth at this guy!

    --
    -------------+
    Frank Krygowski [To reply, omit what's between "at" and "cc"]

  4. Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:

    Bill Z. wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sorry about getting confused. Of course, you stated that you agreed
    100% with Rick when you wrote, "Rick Onanian wrote (nothing snipped
    'cuz it's just so damned good!!!" Now you are trying to disown the
    idiotic statement you yourself stated was "so damned good" (thus
    showing that it in fact reflected your opinion.)

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    Look at your post again, Zaumbie. You *ONCE AGAIN* replied to the
    wrong post -- EXACTLY LIKE THE FIRST TIME THAT STARTED ALL THIS
    INSIPID
    NONSENSE -- only this time without even /anything/ you attributed to
    me.

    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant? I
    snipped more than I thought this time, but the *first* time (your lies
    notwithstanding), you were quoted correctly. In this case, I snipped
    too much, but what I claimed you said was, by your own admission,
    actually your opinion, and your opinion was 100% wrong.

    Regardless of snipping, you can't even read. Rick wrote something and you
    replied as if *I* wrote it. Deja vu all over again. (And just because I
    applauded what he said doesn't mean I then somehow "own" the words. Like
    you need to be told that!)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (The first one at least had my newsreader's auto-generated "[censored]
    Durbin wrote:", which you later used to try to cover up your error.)

    There wasn't an error, you moron, because those words were there. The
    attribution was obvious.

    Same error as this time. You can't keep straight who wrote what, even when
    it's nicely laid out in threads (and your supposedly foolproof newsreader
    can't help you, either!)...

    Bill "you never DID answer about the 'neutral nerds' who also told you that
    you're incorrect" S.

  5. frkrygow' 'frkrygow'@omitcc.ysu.edu said:
    Bill Z. said:


    Hey dimwit...
    There wasn't an error, you moron...

    Quoted message said:

    This dicussion has zip to do with inadvertent
    errors. It is simply due to three stooges...

    :-)

    I imagine the Buddha himself would gnash his teeth at this guy!

    Actually he'd gnash his teeth at the three stooges, plus you (a
    certified anti-helmet nut with an ax to grind due to previous
    discussions on that topic.)

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  6. S o r n i said:
    Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:

    Bill Z. wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant? I
    snipped more than I thought this time, but the *first* time (your lies
    notwithstanding), you were quoted correctly. In this case, I snipped
    too much, but what I claimed you said was, by your own admission,
    actually your opinion, and your opinion was 100% wrong.

    Regardless of snipping, you can't even read. Rick wrote something and you
    replied as if *I* wrote it. Deja vu all over again. (And just because I
    applauded what he said doesn't mean I then somehow "own" the words. Like
    you need to be told that!)

    Hey moron - you agreed 100% with what the other moron said, and are
    now trying to deny that. Typical of you fools. If you want your
    idiotic posts to be read, you might avoid top posting (which is
    considered bad form, and in your case your top-posted text was part of
    what would normally be the line saying "X wrote."😉

    Quoted message said:

    Bill "you never DID answer about the 'neutral nerds' who also told you that
    you're incorrect" S.

    Well, the one or two people who sort of agreed with you were wrong
    (possibly they didn't see the original post.) A couple raised points
    that were additional comments independent of what we were discussing.

    Regardless, I answered the points being raised, and it is not
    necessary to respond to each and every post to do that.

    Bill
    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  7. Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:

    Regardless of snipping, you can't even read. Rick wrote something
    and you replied as if *I* wrote it. Deja vu all over again. (And
    just because I applauded what he said doesn't mean I then somehow
    "own" the words. Like you need to be told that!)

    Hey moron - you agreed 100% with what the other moron said, and are
    now trying to deny that.

    A lie. I *STILL* agree with what Rick wrote; the only point is that HE
    WROTE IT (you replied as if *I* did).

    Typical of you fools. If you want your

    Quoted message said:

    idiotic posts to be read, you might avoid top posting (which is
    considered bad form, and in your case your top-posted text was part of
    what would normally be the line saying "X wrote."😉

    Now you're really grasping, Zaumbie. I learned to not top-post years ago,
    and most certainly never did in this pathetic excuse for a thread.
    Modifying the "X wrote:" isn't top-posting; nor is stating something for the
    reader's understanding before posting new content. (And shouldn't your holy
    color-coded crapper allow you perfect comprehension of who said what
    anyway?!? Sounds like it just confuses you!)

    All someone has to do is look at Rick's very well crafted flame of you. I
    then posted a reply (basically saying "well done, ol' smokey"😉, and then you
    replied to MY post but trying to answer Rick's arguments (and addressing him
    as me!).

    All you gotta do is say you [censored] up (which is obvious to anyone), but
    you're incapable of it apparently.

    Bill "enough of this; I actually ride a bike" S.

  8. On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:35:14 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill

    Z.) said:

    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant? I

    It meant nothing considering all of the dancing that followed it.
    Also, stuff like:

    Quoted message said:

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.


    is generally a proof that an included apology is 100% meaningless.

    Quoted message said:

    snipped more than I thought this time, but the *first* time (your lies
    notwithstanding), you were quoted correctly. In this case, I snipped
    too much, but what I claimed you said was, by your own admission, actually
    your opinion, and your opinion was 100% wrong.

    It was quite obviously not a snipping error:
    I wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    conscious decision doesn't mean that you didn't choose the wrong
    word.

    Then you said:

    Sigh. What a moron. Sorni (???) must also think that if you try a track
    stand and fall off the bike, you "chose" to fall. After all, it is

    Even with all your color coding newsreader glory, you responded to
    my _words_ (not his opinion) by writing to _Sorni_.

    Maybe the problem is that you don't know how to operate
    attributions, and depend entirely on your newsreader's color coding;
    then it would be pretty easy to get confused, I guess. Possibly your
    newsreader doesn't sort the messages properly, and you get confused
    because you don't get to read them in order.

    Whether or not any of those technical issues exist, the problem
    remains you.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  9. Rick Onanian said:

    On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:35:14 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill

    Z.) said:

    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant? I

    It meant nothing considering all of the dancing that followed it.
    Also, stuff like:

    Quoted message said:

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.


    is generally a proof that an included apology is 100% meaningless.

    Quoted message said:

    It was quite obviously not a snipping error:

    It was a snipping error, and if you had half a brain, that would be
    obvious. If you let a newsreader quote the text, and snip full lines,
    you'd get what was posted. Sorni's "X wrote" line got snipped because
    he filled in so much text between "wrote" and the following colon that
    I noticed only his addition as I cut out irrelavant [censored]. So Sorni
    himself contributed to the problem. Surely "(nothing snipped 'cuz
    it's just so damned good!!! 🙂" is not a statement worth keeping in a
    reply, and that's what I intended to snip.

    Hint guys - don't try to be excessively cute on attribution lines - it
    makes the attribution easy to miss. If you turn most of a line into
    fluff, don't expect anyone to read the fluff, and anything next to the
    fluff will probably not be noticed as well.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe the problem is that you don't know how to operate
    attributions, and depend entirely on your newsreader's color coding;
    then it would be pretty easy to get confused,

    Hey moron, my newsreader color-codes posts, but shows all quoted
    text in the same color when composing replies. And I do know
    how to handle attributions - in the single mistake I made, I simply
    edited the post quickly. What I quoted, however, did in fact
    express Sorni's opinion, as he stated as much.

    As to "an appology 100% meaningless," Sorni does not deserve an
    appology, only a correction, which I did in fact post. After all,
    he merely quoted someone else to say what he wanted to anyway,
    being too lazy to make up something on his own, and his attempts
    at being excessively cute contributed to the problem. Besides,
    he owes me about 30 apologies and I have yet to see one.

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  10. S o r n i said:
    Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:

    Regardless of snipping, you can't even read. Rick wrote something
    and you replied as if *I* wrote it. Deja vu all over again. (And
    just because I applauded what he said doesn't mean I then somehow
    "own" the words. Like you need to be told that!)

    Hey moron - you agreed 100% with what the other moron said, and are
    now trying to deny that.

    A lie. I *STILL* agree with what Rick wrote; the only point is that HE
    WROTE IT (you replied as if *I* did).

    Hey slimeball, you said you agreed with that idiot Ric, and then complain
    when I wrote:

    + Sigh. What a moron. Sorni must also think that if you try a track
    + stand and fall off the bike, you "chose" to fall. After all, it is
    + all "controlled by your brain."

    If you agreed with him, then you must in fact think what I said you
    think (and neither of you two had an answer for what I said, hence
    the smokescreen about attributions.) Face it, you are both idiots.

    You also ignored my last sentence in the post, "Consider the above a
    reply to the other recent posts from you idiots as well." I made it
    damn clear I was not replying just to you.

    Bill

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  11. Quoted message said:
    Rick Onanian said:

    Maybe the problem is that you don't know how to operate
    attributions, and depend entirely on your newsreader's color coding;
    then it would be pretty easy to get confused,


    On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 18:16:43 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill

    Z.) said:

    Hey moron, my newsreader color-codes posts, but shows all quoted
    text in the same color when composing replies. And I do know

    Oh, really? So, your infallible color coding doesn't even exist
    where it's most needed?

    Quoted message said:

    As to "an appology 100% meaningless," Sorni does not deserve an
    appology, only a correction, which I did in fact post. After all,

    If that's the case, then why did you write this:

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry about getting confused. Of course, <snip>


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Hey dimwit, what do you think "sorry about getting confused" meant?

    You implied in the second line that the first line was, in fact, an
    apology; I then proceeded to question the validity of such apology:

    Quoted message said:

    Face it Sorni, you are a loser. You even lose arguments with
    yourself.


    is generally a proof that an included apology is 100% meaningless.

    So, what _did_ you mean by "Sorry about getting confused.", and why
    do you think that it was obviously not an apology?

    You really ought to invest in a spell checker, Bil...you've written
    "rediculous", "irrelavant", "appology", and a few others I saw
    while reviewing this thread. Maybe you can trade your color-coded
    newsreader in for one with a spell checker. Maybe it will help with
    some of your typo issues.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  12. Bill Z. said:
    S o r n i said:

    Bill Z. wrote:

    Hey slimeball, you said you agreed with that idiot Ric, and then
    complain when I wrote:

    + Sigh. What a moron. Sorni must also think that if you try a track
    + stand and fall off the bike, you "chose" to fall. After all, it is
    + all "controlled by your brain."

    If you agreed with him, then you must in fact think what I said you
    think (and neither of you two had an answer for what I said, hence
    the smokescreen about attributions.) Face it, you are both idiots.

    You also ignored my last sentence in the post, "Consider the above a
    reply to the other recent posts from you idiots as well." I made it
    damn clear I was not replying just to you.

    Rick blasted you about your obvious NON-typo (or rather, your denial of it).
    Your reply then whimpers about ME. You've lost so much emotional control
    that you can't even tell who you're arguing with.

    It's just Usenet, Bill. It's not that big a deal. I truly wish I'd never
    noticed your original mistake (only did because it invoked MY user name). I
    was really very light-hearted about it -- after all, it was just a "fun"
    topic not something "serious" -- until you reacted so freaking defensively.
    One last time, all you had to do was admit you left a few extra words (the
    "Sorni says:" attribution with no corresponding text) OR that you replied to
    wrong post and just didn't snip enough. That would have ended it.

    Bill "but NOOOOOOOOO" S.

  13. Bill Z. said:

    It was a snipping error

    OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE CAN NOW END!

    Bill "are those angels I hear singing?!?" S.

  14. S o r n i said:
    Bill Z. said:

    "S o r n i" <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    Rick blasted you about your obvious NON-typo (or rather, your denial of it).
    Your reply then whimpers about ME. You've lost so much emotional control
    that you can't even tell who you're arguing with.

    It's just Usenet, Bill.

    Only on usenet would two complete and utter idiots like you and Rick
    make a big deal about a trivial typo.

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  15. Rick Onanian said:
    Quoted message said:

    Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    So, what _did_ you mean by "Sorry about getting confused.", and why
    do you think that it was obviously not an apology?

    It meant that I missed the two or three words at the start of a line
    indicating that it was an attribution line, which could have been
    avoided if I read the text more carefully, to see if there actually
    was something worth keeping on a line that primarily consided of
    Sorni's mindless [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    You really ought to invest in a spell checker, Bil...you've written
    "rediculous", "irrelavant", "appology", and a few others I saw
    while reviewing this thread.

    Do you think I'm going to waste time fixing my erratic typing on short
    replies to you two morons? You morons aren't work the effort of
    running the checker.

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  16. Bill Z. said:

    Only on usenet would two complete and utter idiots like you and Rick
    make a big deal about a trivial typo.

    One of your many infantile spoon-bangings was the always reliable "Can't you
    understand English?".

    The you wrote that something was do (sic) to something else.

    You really like serving up the ironies, doncha?

    Bill "almost as good as replying to wrong post in a thread ABOUT replying to
    wrong post" S.

  17. S o r n i said:
    Bill Z. said:

    Only on usenet would two complete and utter idiots like you and Rick
    make a big deal about a trivial typo.

    One of your many infantile spoon-bangings was the always reliable "Can't you
    understand English?".

    The fact remains that you morons are making a big deal about a trivial
    typo to the point that it is consuming your miserable lives.

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

  18. Bill Z. said:
    Rick Onanian said:
    Quoted message said:

    Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:

    So, what _did_ you mean by "Sorry about getting confused.", and why
    do you think that it was obviously not an apology?

    It meant that I missed the two or three words at the start of a line
    indicating that it was an attribution line, which could have been
    avoided if I read the text more carefully, to see if there actually
    was something worth keeping on a line that primarily consided of
    Sorni's mindless [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    You really ought to invest in a spell checker, Bil...you've written
    "rediculous", "irrelavant", "appology", and a few others I saw
    while reviewing this thread.

    Do you think I'm going to waste time fixing my erratic typing on short
    replies to you two morons? You morons aren't work the effort of
    running the checker.

    Nor are we, collectively, worth replying to, so SHUT UP already, Z. You
    dig yourself in deeper and deeper each time you defend your idiocy. Only
    the brain dead wouldn't have noticed by now.

    jim

  19. JimLane said:

    Nor are we, collectively, worth replying to, so SHUT UP already, Z.
    You dig yourself in deeper and deeper each time you defend your
    idiocy. Only the brain dead wouldn't have noticed by now.

    Jim, you KNOW he'll reply to this; just let it go when he does.

    Bill "didn't reply to his last on to me (and it was a big ol' softball that
    I could've knocked out of park, too!)" S.

  20. JimLane said:
    Bill Z. said:

    Rick Onanian <[email hidden]> writes:

    Quoted message said:


    Nor are we, collectively, worth replying to, so SHUT UP already,
    Z. You dig yourself in deeper and deeper each time you defend your
    idiocy. Only the brain dead wouldn't have noticed by now.

    Mindless assertions such as yours are usually made by usenet idiots
    who bluster when it becomes obvious that they don't know what they
    are balthering about.

    --
    My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

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