Bus driving blues

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  1. Spider1977

    Spider1977 New Member

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    Is it just me, or do other riders find that bus drivers in genral are particularly discourteous and somewhat aggressive when it comes to cyclists? :confused:

    Here in Hobart I have had a number of run-ins with busses cutting in front of me, when simply by waiting a couple more seconds they could have pulled in to the bus stop after I had passed through. They also seem to take great delight in driving as close to the LH curb as possible, thereby forcing you to stop or at least giving you a bloody good fright.

    I remember my school days in East Burwood (Vic). The busses along Burwood Hwy would do the same thing. I used to dread them coming and hop on the footpath to let them pass :eek: .

    Last week I rode 480 km down east coast of Tasmania and a couple of tourist busses also were particularly aggressive towards our peleton. What is it with these guys? :(
     
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  2. NickZX6R

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    Spider1977 wrote:
    > Is it just me, or do other riders find that bus drivers in genral are
    > particularly discourteous and somewhat aggressive when it comes to
    > cyclists? :confused:


    not particularly.
    >
    > Here in Hobart I have had a number of run-ins with busses cutting in
    > front of me, when simply by waiting a couple more seconds they could
    > have pulled in to the bus stop after I had passed through. They also
    > seem to take great delight in driving as close to the LH curb as
    > possible, thereby forcing you to stop or at least giving you a bloody
    > good fright.


    I expect bus drivers consider setting down the passengers as close as
    possible to the kerb a higher priority than inconveniencing other traffic.

    Not that that's an excuse for running people off the road.

    >
    > I remember my school days in East Burwood (Vic). The busses along
    > Burwood Hwy would do the same thing. I used to dread them coming and
    > hop on the footpath to let them pass :eek: .
    >
    > Last week I rode 480 km down east coast of Tasmania and a couple of
    > tourist busses also were particularly aggressive towards our peleton.
    > What is it with these guys? :(


    What did they do? Was it really dangerous stuff?

    This same post could be written with pretty much any other road user
    named. eg. truck drivers, mums in 4WDs, volvo drivers, P platers,
    etc...

    I just don't see it. In years of riding I've only ever gotten grief
    or aggro from a tiny number of people. Maybe I've become conditioned
    to all the arseholes and just don't notice them as much?:)

    The only exception for me is taxi drivers, who just seem to be
    universally selfish and arrogant.

    I spose it's just a difference in perception. I've all but stopped
    getting angry on the road since I stopped expecting decent behaviour
    from other road users :)

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    Nick
     
  3. cfsmtb

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    Well, for starters, take down details of the incidents, particularly noting the companies name.....maybe start here:
    http://www.metrotas.com.au/

    Also contact Tim & co at Bicycle Tasmania;
    http://www.biketas.org.au/BikeTas/

    Invariably all commercial buses have signage down the sides - so take note of it. Simply remaining pissed off won't do - report the incident to the company concerned & follow it up. The drivers will keep repeating inappropriate road behaviour if admin. don't receive feedback. When reporting the incident maintain a considered balanced approach - ie: helps me, helps you - and remember to follow up all communications. I maybe sounding a tad too optimistic but hey it's worth a try. Having a ruddy big MTT bus tailgating me along Ashbolt was one of several incidents that made me give up cycling as a kid, these days I believe I'm probably safer cycling on Punt Road or Bell Street. :rolleyes:

    cheers & hope this helps. ;)
     
  4. Bikelux

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    You get a bus license with every can of coke.
    Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

    What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.
     
  5. DJ

    DJ Guest

    "Bikelux" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > You get a bus license with every can of coke.
    > Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
    > misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
    > unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.
    >
    > What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
    > the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Bikelux
    >

    Dear bikelux.....................
    I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
    have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
    through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when applicants
    realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
    alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many good
    drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
    Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
    2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
    thought!!
    Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
    Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
    some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
    more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
    jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is invincible.

    The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
    along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
    realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
    just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called defensive
    riding.

    I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
    he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into the
    bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
    into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the teenager
    was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his skateboard
    and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then to
    my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air, and
    picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
    was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver seen
    him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor just
    because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver isn't
    it?
    So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask you
    again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope I'll
    be your trainer!!

    Regards
    DJ
     
  6. DJ

    DJ Guest

    "DJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Bikelux" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>
    >> You get a bus license with every can of coke.
    >> Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
    >> misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
    >> unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.
    >>
    >> What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
    >> the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Bikelux
    >>

    > Dear bikelux.....................
    > I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
    > have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
    > through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when
    > applicants realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers
    > in STA alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are
    > many good drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
    > Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
    > 2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
    > thought!!
    > Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
    > Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
    > some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
    > more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
    > jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is
    > invincible.
    >
    > The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
    > along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
    > realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
    > just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called
    > defensive riding.
    >
    > I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
    > he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into
    > the bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St
    > and into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the
    > teenager was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
    > skateboard and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the
    > bus, then to my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands
    > in the air, and picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a
    > fatality and I was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky
    > the driver seen him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside
    > on the floor just because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame
    > the BUS driver isn't it?
    > So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask
    > you again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
    > I'll be your trainer!!
    >
    > Regards
    > DJ
    >
    >Oh yes, I need to add another thing, let me assure anyone, that if a bus
    >driver or any driver of a heavy vehicle like a bus/truck etc is found
    >guilty or is deemed to be at fault in an accident or incident especially in
    >regards to a fatality, they will be penalised by the legal system more
    >severely than a normal private car driver as they are considered to be
    >professional drivers and the magistrates are often tougher on us. Also, If
    >a public transport driver is found to be negligent, not only will he be
    >suspended from holding a licence, depending on severity of the charge, but
    >could be jailed, but at the minimum, suspended untill the court case is
    >heard, which can take months or years, at no pay or minimal payment for
    >light duties off the road, no overtime, no penalty rates, just basic
    >dollars till it's proven otherwise. Beleive me, we don't get off scott
    >free, many have been sacked for doing stupid things or just making the
    >wrong decision.


    DJ
     
  7. flyingdutch

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    Dear DJ.....

    the incident quite clearly exampled here was buses passing a bike (usually quite close and dangerously) merely to pull in to the left, or thru the space the cyclist was about to be in/is in.
    There was/is no errant riding on the cyclists' part, just crap driving when a myriad of options were available to the bus driver!

    I agree with how many fools do dumb things in front of buses (changeing lanes before a red light thus shortening stopping distances in front of buses/trucks is a fool's favourite) however this aint it!

    Congratulations on being aware that "everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should realise to take extra precautions".

    How could one apply this lame statement to a cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU, MR BUS DRIVER??? Simple.
    YOU CANT!!!
    You can see the cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU. travelling the same direction as you. FOR A LONG TIME.
    No sudden movements, no changeing lanes, no riding a skateboard off the curb, etc, etc, generalisations, blah, blah, blah...
    The bus driver is totally armed with the facts, truth, and solely alone in the input to what happens in this scenario, so DEAL!
    Slow down for all of 3 seconds and be comforted that your viagra awaits you where it may do some good. We all want to get home in one piece, including your passengers. stop throwing em round the cockpit just cos you're trying to compensate for something, little man.
     
  8. >>>>> "DJ" == DJ <[email protected]> writes:

    DJ> The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out
    DJ> of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might be
    DJ> harder to see should realise to take extra precautions, I know i
    DJ> do when i'm out on my bike, i just hang back to see or predict
    DJ> what my happen next, it's called defensive riding.

    Riding along Beach Road (Melbourne) a meter out from the kerb
    approaching traffic lights, overtaken by bus who then cuts back in to 2
    inches from the kerb and stops at the red light.

    Unfortunately he hadn't completed passing me before he swerved in,
    causing me to all but fall on the foot path. Defensive riding gets you
    only so far, we need co-operation from other road users as well.

    I very petulantly planted my bike in front of him 3 meters out of the
    kerb before the lights changed. Lots of tooting as I pedaled along at
    30Km/h but he did give me enough room when he finally overtook. Hope he
    got the message.

    No, it wasn't big and it wasn't clever and nowadays I wouldn't do that.
    As a general rule if motorists in front of me at the lights can't easily
    overtake me I'll just wait in traffic, I prefer that to having them
    squeeze past me as I get up to speed again.

    Nowadays I'd take his rego and report him.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan
     
  9. DJ

    DJ Guest

    "flyingdutch" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]clingforums.com...
    >
    > DJ Wrote:
    >> Dear bikelux.....................
    >> I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come
    >> and
    >> have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you
    >> get
    >> through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when
    >> applicants
    >> realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
    >> alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many
    >> good
    >> drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
    >> Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test,
    >> another
    >> 2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
    >> thought!!
    >> Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially
    >> in
    >> Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see
    >> what
    >> some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't
    >> been
    >> more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
    >> jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is
    >> invincible.
    >>
    >> The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of
    >> stops
    >> along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
    >> realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike,
    >> i
    >> just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called
    >> defensive
    >> riding.
    >>
    >> I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central
    >> station,
    >> he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into
    >> the
    >> bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St
    >> and
    >> into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the
    >> teenager
    >> was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
    >> skateboard
    >> and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus,
    >> then to
    >> my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the
    >> air, and
    >> picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and
    >> I
    >> was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver
    >> seen
    >> him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor
    >> just
    >> because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver
    >> isn't
    >> it?
    >> So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask
    >> you
    >> again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
    >> I'll
    >> be your trainer!!
    >>
    >> Regards
    >> DJ

    >
    > Dear DJ.....
    >
    > the incident quite clearly exampled here was buses passing a bike
    > (usually quite close and dangerously) merely to pull in to the left, or
    > thru the space the cyclist was about to be in/is in.
    > There was/is no errant riding on the cyclists' part, just crap driving
    > when a myriad of options were available to the bus driver!
    >
    > I agree with how many fools do dumb things in front of buses (changeing
    > lanes before a red light thus shortening stopping distances in front of
    > buses/trucks is a fool's favourite) however this aint it!
    >
    > Congratulations on being aware that "everyone knows that buses have to
    > pull in and out of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might
    > be harder to see should realise to take extra precautions".
    >
    > How could one apply this lame statement to a cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU,
    > MR BUS DRIVER??? Simple.
    > YOU CANT!!!
    > You can see the cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU. travelling the same direction
    > as you. FOR A LONG TIME.
    > No sudden movements, no changeing lanes, no riding a skateboard off the
    > curb, etc, etc, generalisations, blah, blah, blah...
    > The bus driver is totally armed with the facts, truth, and solely alone
    > in the input to what happens in this scenario, so DEAL!
    > Slow down for all of 3 seconds and be comforted that your viagra awaits
    > you where it may do some good. We all want to get home in one piece,
    > including your passengers. stop throwing em round the cockpit just cos
    > you're trying to compensate for something, little man.
    >
    >
    > --
    > flyingdutch
    >


    Thanks for your Imput Dutchie, I must admit I'm not aware of the incident
    details in Sydney that bikelux was referring to, however to make a
    generalised statement in regards to Bus licences are as common as coke cans
    and being a law unto themselves or similar got my goat up a bit and is total
    bullshit, If we do wrong, we cop shit bigtime from the company and the law.I
    don't know what it's like in Victoria but here in NSW penalties are
    severe.In a bad or fatal accident, when the RTA, Police and the Ministry of
    Transport get into it, the shit generally hits the fan...big time!!

    Now assuming that what you stated is true about this cyclist being in front
    of a bus just up from a bus stop, yes i agree totally, the bus driver should
    just hang back till the cyclist is past the stop, as I do and have always
    done,and I teach my trainees to do likewise.

    Hey Dutchie, I'm a cylist too and I've got nothing to prove to anyone and
    I'm proud at what I do for a living, I'm no Little man as you put it, and I
    always compensate for others on the road which is why my accident rate is
    extremely low, maybe I'm just one of a few that understands and knows what
    it's like on a bike, but I also experience it from both sides.

    I was in the bus behind the referred bus in my story regarding the
    skateboard watching it happen from a relatively safe distance and I rarely
    throw passengers around. Mate, out of 3,800 drivers, theres bound to be few
    bad eggs.

    Was this Bus driver one of the Government Bussies or a Private Company
    employee? fill me in on the details.

    Was there any wittnesses in the case of this cyclist being killed, had the
    driver been charged or does nobody know? Usually if a death occurs there is
    a major enquiry, followed by a court case if the driver was at fault. Seems
    to me that in this case he was, I bet he's not driving now if he was found
    guilty.Well not with our organisation anyway!!

    Unfortunately, I can't answer for those Bus drivers/truck drivers etc who do
    stupid things just as you can't answer for every stupid cyclist etc, but I
    know there are many responsible ppl out there driving the public around or
    commutting on bikes.

    Dutchie, if I want to raise a debate, or discuss something or even question
    someone's comments, at least I don't go and get real personal and berate and
    name calling for anyone's opinion, name calling is for children. Why do you
    feel it's neccesary???

    Kindest regards

    DJ
     
  10. flyingdutch

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    no names called as far as i can tell DJ. just getting a tad bored with the amount of stereotypes littering the thread. And as far as i can tell cyclists dont ride skateboards...

    F-'who-used-to-ride-skateboards-but found-they-dont-go-uphill-so-fast'-D
     
  11. Bikelux

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    I wouldn't have your job if they offered me all the gold in fort knox DJ. I can appreciate that it's not an easy task. I appologise for the generalisation.
    I can relate an incident which happened to me about two years ago but I won't add anymore fuel to the fire.
     
  12. "DJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Bikelux" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > >
    > > You get a bus license with every can of coke.
    > > Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
    > > misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
    > > unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.
    > >
    > > What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
    > > the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Bikelux
    > >

    > Dear bikelux.....................
    > I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
    > have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
    > through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when

    applicants
    > realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
    > alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many

    good
    > drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
    > Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
    > 2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
    > thought!!
    > Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
    > Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
    > some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
    > more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
    > jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is

    invincible.
    >
    > The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
    > along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
    > realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
    > just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called

    defensive
    > riding.
    >
    > I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
    > he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into

    the
    > bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
    > into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the

    teenager
    > was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his skateboard
    > and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then

    to
    > my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air,

    and
    > picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
    > was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver seen
    > him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor

    just
    > because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver

    isn't
    > it?
    > So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask

    you
    > again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope I'll
    > be your trainer!!
    >
    > Regards
    > DJ
    >
    >


    You've publicly admitted to driving a bus for a living? Have you no shame?
     
  13. DJ

    DJ Guest

    "Double stitched" <[email protected] jntl.org> wrote in message
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    > "DJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> "Bikelux" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> >
    >> > You get a bus license with every can of coke.
    >> > Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
    >> > misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
    >> > unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.
    >> >
    >> > What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
    >> > the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > Bikelux
    >> >

    >> Dear bikelux.....................
    >> I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
    >> have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
    >> through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when

    > applicants
    >> realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
    >> alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many

    > good
    >> drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
    >> Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test,
    >> another
    >> 2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
    >> thought!!
    >> Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially
    >> in
    >> Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
    >> some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
    >> more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
    >> jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is

    > invincible.
    >>
    >> The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
    >> along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
    >> realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
    >> just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called

    > defensive
    >> riding.
    >>
    >> I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central
    >> station,
    >> he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into

    > the
    >> bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
    >> into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the

    > teenager
    >> was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
    >> skateboard
    >> and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then

    > to
    >> my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air,

    > and
    >> picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
    >> was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver
    >> seen
    >> him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor

    > just
    >> because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver

    > isn't
    >> it?
    >> So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask

    > you
    >> again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
    >> I'll
    >> be your trainer!!
    >>
    >> Regards
    >> DJ
    >>
    >>

    >
    > You've publicly admitted to driving a bus for a living? Have you no shame?
    >
    >Yeah, so? what's wrong with that? hell of a lot better than driving
    >garbage trucks, although both have many similarities!!

    I'm proud of what I do mate, It's a good honest job mate, I'm no dole
    bludger and I make a hell of a lot more money than many office jocks(no
    offence to office jocks intended), ave 50 - 65 k pa , best of all, free
    public transport around Sydney mate 24/7, very handy to join different bike
    rides aound the place and for a cheap night out, oh yes, free uniforms
    mate...only have to supply the jocks, oh yes and theres more!! 2 x free
    holiday passes a year on bus , train and ferry mate and interstate as
    well.......we at least keep many other cars off the road, not like the rail
    lately which are driving people back on the road....buses can go
    anywhere....that's why the government likes us so much. We get in there and
    move people around mate, emergency rail hirings, special events and remember
    the 2000 Olympics? Only for us, we saved what was almost a transport
    disaster when all the private buses got lost as most the guys were from out
    of town.

    No shame here mate...absolutely none at all!! So, while we are on the
    subject, are you game to say what you do?

    Regards

    DJ
     
  14. flyingdutch

    flyingdutch New Member

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    sorry. could you repeat the question, mate? couldnt hear what you were sayin cos some guy kept saying 'mate' all the time. sorry DJ, couldnt resist.
    Can we take it as given that you instruct Busdriver's about how to drive when in the presence of cyclists? cheers FD

    F-graphic/web-designer-sometimes.ridin-all-the-time-D
     
  15. ritcho

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    No accusations of shame from me... putting aside all the fringe benefits you outlined (mate), a full time job driving around Sydney would have to be one of the most frustrating jobs - respect!

    Ritch (works in finance)
     
  16. DJ

    DJ Guest

    OK OK...........I think I've said too much
    already........MATE!!.........rolleyes:)

    DJ couldn't resist one more 'mate' either :)

    Well I've hung up the cashtray & tickets for a week from now and going on a
    hard earned break( I think I need it after this thread ) hahahaha

    Well, whatever we do, I'm glad we do it well and keep Australia, the best
    country on earth going.

    Keep well fellas, cyas in the new year and I hope 2005 is great for one and
    all...take care!!

    I'll be thinkin' of you all while i'm danglin my line and sipping a coldie
    on the mighty Clarence river.

    Best regards

    DJ
     
  17. Spider1977

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    Well all this seems to confirm my suspicions. There is one considerate bus driver in Sydney. As for the rest of the country, we're all irrelevant as far as bus drivers are concerned.

    Next time I'll be seen occupying the middle of the lane so there is no room at all to squeeze past on the right. If you can't join 'em, beat 'em.

    Who's up for a ride on Christmas morning? No busses on the road and burn up some energy before getting stuck into Christmas lunch. I'll be doing the Granton, Tea Tree, Richmond circuit, you're welcome to join me.
     
  18. TimC

    TimC Guest

    On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 at 05:00 GMT, Spider1977 (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
    > Well all this seems to confirm my suspicions. There is one considerate
    > bus driver in Sydney. As for the rest of the country, we're all
    > irrelevant as far as bus drivers are concerned.


    I took the bus up to Coonabarabran (central NSW) a few days ago, and
    everyone was chatting at Echuca (close to midnight). We started
    talking about bad drivers, and the bus driver started complaining
    about cyclists - you know -- standard red-light running and stuff like
    that. Couldn't convince him that not all cyclists were like that.

    He made the comment that he would like to wear one as a hood ornament.

    That ticked me off a little bit.

    That, and the cost of the ticket, the sardine can nature of the bus,
    and the length of the trip. Oh, and the fact that the bus to Melbourne
    had broken down the night before, so was parked and repaired at some
    remote NSW town overnight, and we were driven in a hire bus that had
    to be back in Melbourne a few hours later. The drivers switched over
    when we arrived at the town with the "repaired" bus, but the new
    driver wasn't told that he was now driving a bus that had just broken
    down. So when he tried to start it, and it failed to start (new
    problem - dead battery), he spent half an hour (at 1:30am) trying to
    work out what was wrong, then an hour trying to jump start it. It is
    amusing watching 15 men grabbing onto a bus bull-bar, and trying to
    push start a bus. Didn't move a centimeter. The ute didn't have enough
    power in its batteries to start the bus, and it was only when another
    bus was brought around that we got the batteries charged.

    --
    TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
    We are no longer the knights who say "ni"
    We are the knights who say "icky icky (Comet) Ikeya-Zhang zoooboing!"
    --Lord Ender @ /.
     
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