Buying a set of Campy Zondas... what do I need for cassette compatibility?
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lava said:
With a shimano compatible freehub on those wheels you would have two options for a Campy groupset in the future. One would be to switch to a Campy freehub, the other would be to use a campy converter cassette that allows using a cassette spaced for Campy but made to fit on a shimano compatible freehub. Both options are about $75-100
There are also other possibilities. Since you are planning to run nine-speed now, you could get the Campy freehub and a 9s loose-cog Campy cassette and use 9s shimano width spacers. These spacers are available from Wheels Manufacturing or Branford bike. This would work perfectly well with your Shimano derailleurs and shifters. When switching to Campy group later, you would just need new cassette spacers (or a 10s cassette if you switched to 10s).
The other possibility is to get a campy freehub, campy 9s cassette and use a Jtek shiftmate (model 1) with your current derailleur/shifter setup.
Personally, I think the easiest option is to buy wheels with a shimano compatible freehub now and switch freehubs later if you go with Campy.
Thanks for all the great info!
So if I bought these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-Campagnolo-Zonda-Wheelset-Clincher-NEW_W0QQitemZ7205112355
Then the only thing I'd need to buy to make it work with my Shimano cassette would be a freehub body like this?:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=13797&srccode=1067
Could I use the freehub body from the Bontrager Select wheels I'm using now?
Thanks!
So if I bought these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-Campagnolo-Zonda-Wheelset-Clincher-NEW_W0QQitemZ7205112355
Then the only thing I'd need to buy to make it work with my Shimano cassette would be a freehub body like this?:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=13797&srccode=1067
Could I use the freehub body from the Bontrager Select wheels I'm using now?
Thanks!
Unfortunately you will need to get a shimano-compatible freehub body that is MADE by Campagnolo, such as these carried online by Branford Bike, Alfred E Bike, and others.lava said:
http://www.branfordbike.com/hub/hub03.html#item1
Part N in the Branford picture, model number FW 98-41.
http://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=30&SKU=FW9841
Your Bontrager will NOT work with the Campy hub.
Yes, the Campy ones are a bit more expensive than the ones made by Shimano for their hubs.
So I went ahead and bought these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-Campagnolo-Zonda-Wheelset-Clincher-NEW_W0QQitemZ7205112355
Before I bid, I made sure to ask the seller if the freehub would fit a Shimano cassette, and he said yes but that I would need a Shimano-compatible lockring. Now that I think about it more, it sounds fishy to me. Do you think what he says is true? It seems to me that if the lockring screws onto the freehub already (as in the picture listed with the auction), that it wouldn't have any trouble screwing on after a Shimano cassette was put on. Not only that, but why would the wheels come with a Shimano-compatible freehub and a Campy-compatible lockring?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-Campagnolo-Zonda-Wheelset-Clincher-NEW_W0QQitemZ7205112355
Before I bid, I made sure to ask the seller if the freehub would fit a Shimano cassette, and he said yes but that I would need a Shimano-compatible lockring. Now that I think about it more, it sounds fishy to me. Do you think what he says is true? It seems to me that if the lockring screws onto the freehub already (as in the picture listed with the auction), that it wouldn't have any trouble screwing on after a Shimano cassette was put on. Not only that, but why would the wheels come with a Shimano-compatible freehub and a Campy-compatible lockring?
lava said:
Either he meant that you could put a Campy freehub on and would then need to get the appropriate lockring, or he is confused, himself.
Looks like a decent deal. Are you the winner? No matter, if you buy a set of Campy wheels that have a Campy compatible freehub, all you need to do is buy the Shimano compatible freehub from Campy and the lockring.
I looked at the picture. It is for SURE a Campy freehub and lockring. A shimano cassette will not work on there. The splines are different.lava said:
Despite the fact that you may be have been led a bit astray--the perils of eBay. You made a very good deal for $325 + shipping for those Zonda wheels. Now that you have them (or are committed to having them), you have two options.
1. Get a Campy-made for Shimano Freehub for about $80. Your SRAM 9s cassette will go right on there. I believe it takes your current SRAM or Shimano lockring. If not you have the Campy one that came with the wheels.
2. Get a 9s Campy Veloce loose-cog cassette and Shimano-compatible spacers. Also about $75-80.
Either have the Campy freehub body for the possibililty of switching to Campy in the future (it will work with 9s or 10s) or you get 9s CAMPY spacers or a Campy 10s cassette in the future at the time that you switch depending on if you go 9s or 10s. Or you could sell the Campy Freehub on eBay.
Even at a total outlay of $400+ shipping for Zonda that is a good deal. Excel Sports is selling new Zondas for $580/pair.
Well, I'm glad a got a good deal. My crappy wheels are the only thing that currently bug me about my bike. Will be good to have that taken care of.
I'll probably just go with the Campy Shimano-compatible freehub, and keep the Campy one for when I wear out my current groupset and hopefully go Chorus or something.
I'll probably just go with the Campy Shimano-compatible freehub, and keep the Campy one for when I wear out my current groupset and hopefully go Chorus or something.
lava said:
Yes.
700c refers to the approximate outside diameter of the tire in millimeters and comes from a French system of tire sizing that is not widely used (They had 700B and 700D also). The 622 is the bead seat diameter and is the correct size for 700c tires. Actually this is a more accurate measurement since all current 700c tires fit rims with a bead seat of 622 but actually vary in their outer diameter.
See this link for more than you ever wanted to know about tire and rim sizing. In fact spending a little time on Sheldon Brown's website could help you learn alot about component compatibility.
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
