calf cramps



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Arthur Clune

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Paul Rudin <[email protected]> wrote:

: at a pace that's a little faster than I'm used to.

You muscles are working harder than they have before, hence they cramp.

As you get more used to riding hard the problem will lessen.

Don't lower your saddle unless it is too high anyway.

Arthur

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Richard Bates

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On 4 Aug 2004 09:13:38 GMT, in <[email protected]>,
"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Paul Rudin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>: at a pace that's a little faster than I'm used to.
>
>You muscles are working harder than they have before, hence they cramp.


Another thought: Do you hold your calf muscles rigid when cycling?
Good technique is use your ankles during the pedalling circle.


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Michael MacClancy

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:08:53 GMT, Paul Rudin wrote:

> I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
> work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
> than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
> shorter rides to work or the shops.
>
> I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping in
> my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could, but
> was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I can do
> to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether lowering my
> saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched quite as much
> might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other suggestion are
> welcome.


If your saddle is otherwise ok leave it where it is.

Cramps can be caused by many different things and the cause varies from
person to person. Doing something you're not used to is a surefire cause.
So, riding faster and/or further than normal will often bring on cramps.
Training will help prevent this. Dehydration is another possibility, so
make sure you drink plenty. Lack of energy can also be a cause so you need
to eat or have recently eaten.

Stretching the calves by standing on the pedals and dropping the heels can
relieve the cramp.
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Paul Rudin

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I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
shorter rides to work or the shops.

I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping in
my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could, but
was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I can do
to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether lowering my
saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched quite as much
might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other suggestion are
welcome.
 
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Simon Brooke

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in message <[email protected]>, Michael
MacClancy ('[email protected]') wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:08:53 GMT, Paul Rudin wrote:
>
>> I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
>> work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
>> than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
>> shorter rides to work or the shops.
>>
>> I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping
>> in my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could,
>> but was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I
>> can do to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether
>> lowering my saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched
>> quite as much might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other
>> suggestion are welcome.

>
> If your saddle is otherwise ok leave it where it is.
>
> Cramps can be caused by many different things and the cause varies
> from person to person.


Cramps are caused by one thing only: the muscles locally generating more
lactic acid (a waste product of muscle action) than your blood
circulation can carry away. Once the muscle is overloaded with lactic
acid it can't function any more and that is cramp.

The solution is regular exercise. As you exercise the vascular system
gets tuned to flush larger quantities of lactic acid out of the
muscles. Typically if you get cramp it's either because you are doing
more sustained exercise than your body is tuned for, or your blood is
too viscous and isn't flowing freely (e.g. dehydration) or you have a
actual vascular problem.

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Arthur Clune

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Richard Bates <[email protected]> wrote:

: Another thought: Do you hold your calf muscles rigid when cycling?
: Good technique is use your ankles during the pedalling circle.

I've never been convinced by ankling personally.


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Michael MacClancy

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 11:05:03 GMT, Simon Brooke wrote:

> in message <[email protected]>, Michael
> MacClancy ('[email protected]') wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:08:53 GMT, Paul Rudin wrote:
>>
>>> I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
>>> work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
>>> than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
>>> shorter rides to work or the shops.
>>>
>>> I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping
>>> in my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could,
>>> but was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I
>>> can do to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether
>>> lowering my saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched
>>> quite as much might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other
>>> suggestion are welcome.

>>
>> If your saddle is otherwise ok leave it where it is.
>>
>> Cramps can be caused by many different things and the cause varies
>> from person to person.

>
> Cramps are caused by one thing only:


Really? That's not what you've subsequently written.

>the muscles locally generating more
> lactic acid (a waste product of muscle action) than your blood
> circulation can carry away. Once the muscle is overloaded with lactic
> acid it can't function any more and that is cramp.
>
> The solution is regular exercise. As you exercise the vascular system
> gets tuned to flush larger quantities of lactic acid out of the
> muscles. Typically if you get cramp it's either because you are doing
>


1.
> more sustained exercise than your body is tuned for,


2.
>or your blood is
> too viscous and isn't flowing freely (e.g. dehydration)


3.
>or you have a
> actual vascular problem.


So, cramps are caused by (at least) three things only?

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Velvet

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Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <[email protected]>, Michael
> MacClancy ('[email protected]') wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:08:53 GMT, Paul Rudin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
>>>work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
>>>than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
>>>shorter rides to work or the shops.
>>>
>>>I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping
>>>in my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could,
>>>but was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I
>>>can do to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether
>>>lowering my saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched
>>>quite as much might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other
>>>suggestion are welcome.

>>
>>If your saddle is otherwise ok leave it where it is.
>>
>>Cramps can be caused by many different things and the cause varies
>>from person to person.

>
>
> Cramps are caused by one thing only: the muscles locally generating more
> lactic acid (a waste product of muscle action) than your blood
> circulation can carry away. Once the muscle is overloaded with lactic
> acid it can't function any more and that is cramp.
>
> The solution is regular exercise. As you exercise the vascular system
> gets tuned to flush larger quantities of lactic acid out of the
> muscles. Typically if you get cramp it's either because you are doing
> more sustained exercise than your body is tuned for, or your blood is
> too viscous and isn't flowing freely (e.g. dehydration) or you have a
> actual vascular problem.
>


I reckon there's two kinds of cramp. One where the muscle goes into
spasm, the other where they flood with lactic acid and it burrrrrrrnnnnnns.

Overdoing the pushing can lead to the former I found, but is helped by
keeping on top of the dehydration and salt loss. Simply overdoing it
can lead to the latter, but given time that clears and is uncomfortable,
while the former renders me utterly unable to even get OFF the bike,
walk, etc, and is utter agony till it subsides.

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Callas

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[email protected] wrote:
> I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping in
> my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could, but
> was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I can do
> to try and prevent this in the future?


I'm not sure about the long term solution, but the short term solution
is to put a touch of salt under your tongue. This will *immediately*
deal with cramping.

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Steph Peters

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Paul Rudin <[email protected]> of ntl Cablemodem News Service wrote:
>I went for a ride on the roads yesterday with a couple of guys from
>work, we did about 45k on the roads, at a pace that's a little faster
>than I'm used to. Mostly I do off-road riding for recreation and
>shorter rides to work or the shops.
>
>I found that after a bit I started getting a little bit of cramping in
>my calf muscles. It eased off if I didn't work as hard as I could, but
>was a bit of an irritation. Is there any specific thing that I can do
>to try and prevent this in the future? I wonder whether lowering my
>saddle slightly so that my calves don't get stretched quite as much
>might help? I'll experiment with that, but any other suggestion are
>welcome.


Happened to me once, but only once. In my case the likely cause was
dehydration - alcohol the night before the ride, less water intake than
usual doing the ride, and really pushing it (for me) to get home before the
weather went nasty. So consider your liquid intake.
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