Cancellara's sprint win...a little too convenient and easy?

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On Jul 11, 1:01 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>
> Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
> all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
> Kumbaya, Kumbaya!
>

Switzerland doesn't belong to the EU.
The invasion has been taking place for years, but the Swiss are quiet,
discreet, and have more money than Africans.

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>,
RicodJour ('[email protected]') wrote:

> On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>> corey wrote:
>> > Could there have been an peloton agreement that photogenic, popular
>> > Cancellara wins on "home turf"
>>
>> Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>
> Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
> all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
> Kumbaya, Kumbaya!

Switzerland isn't in the EU. It isn't in NATO, either. Switzerland's turf
is Switzerland's turf and no-one else's; and all good red blooded Swiss
men keep a machine carbine in the house to make sure it stays that way.

--
[email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; killing [afghan|iraqi] civilians is not 'justice'

 

[RicodJour]

On Jul 11, 3:30 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
> in message <Ao8li.106254$1i1.82707@pd7urf3no>, mimoso ('[email protected]')
> wrote:
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> >> Was there anyone else who thought it was strangely straightforward and
> >> too "good a story" that the most marked man in the pack soloed to a
> >> win ahead of the sprinters?
>
> > first this is the beginning of TdF, second he's not a threat for GC,
>
> No?
>
> I agree he's not yet a very serious threat. But I also think he's
> under-rated. He stands a good chance of being stage winner on Stage 13 and
> Stage 20, since they're both CLMs and he is one of the best
> time-triallists in the peloton. However, you typically only gain seconds
> on CLM stages, and I expect he will lose minutes on some of the mountain
> stages, so I don't expect him to win this year. However, it depends to
> some extent on how much support the team give him - unlikely to be much,
> because Schleck and Sastre should be much better in the mountains. But if
> Sastre has a crash and CSC concentrate on getting Cancellara through the
> mountains...
>
> I don't expect he'll win this year, although if I could get a bet at the
> odds he was on last week, it would be worth a punt. But he'll be a serious
> GC contender within three years.

You only have a man-crush on him because he's photogenic, admit it.

R

 

[Bill C]

On Jul 11, 3:38 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
> in message <[email protected]>, Bill C
>
> ('[email protected]') wrote:
> > Have to wonder how McEwan is doing physically and how the hell Boonen
> > managed to miss todays sprint so badly?
>
> I told you: God loves him. God so loves Tom Boonen that He smote Mark
> Cavendish and Robbie McEwan on Sunday with the Holy Pump in the Spokes.
> God so loves Tom Boonen that He smote all the other sprinters on Monday
> with the Wayward Pedal of Zabel. God so loves Tom Boonen that he
> miraculously turned the finish straight on Tuesday to cobbles.
>
> With God on your side, how /can/ you lose?
>
> --
> [email protected] (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> The Conservative Party is now dead. The corpse may still be
> twitching, but resurrection is not an option - unless Satan
> chucks them out of Hell as too objectionable even for him.

I don't know, but seems to me lots of Fundamentalists are losers. If
everyone is praying for Gods help when one guy wins, does that mean
God hates the rest?
Enquiring minds want to know, but the Weekly World News has the real
answers!:
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/
Quality journalism at it's finest!
Bill C

 

[datakoll]

On Jul 11, 11:56 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Was there anyone else who thought it was strangely straightforward and
> too "good a story" that the most marked man in the pack soloed to a
> win ahead of the sprinters?
>
> Yes, he's a specialist of the cobbles, but where there so many cobbles
> that they would be a deciding factor in the sprint?
> And, couldn't it be said that other folks (Boonen, Hincapie, et al)
> are equally talented on cobbles and either have strong sprint support
> or also really want a stage win?
>
> Could there have been an peloton agreement that photogenic, popular
> Cancellara wins on "home turf" and provides an uplifting story to
> detract from all the negative press of the moment? Could money have
> changed hands? I know nothing and am just thinking out lout, but as I
> watched it yesterday I just though "huh...that's a little odd..."
>
> - Corey

???? should be plainly obvious that these guys are DRAINED of all
possible energy at 80% of the total distance. Cancellera had two
convulsive spasms as he expressed emotion after crossing the finish.
It should also be obvious that not mentioning Cancellera was pointing
Cancellera out when the camera picked Cancellera out as he traveled in
a flying wedge on the right side over a considerable distance.

 

[RicodJour]

On Jul 11, 4:11 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:01 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>
> > Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
> > all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
> > Kumbaya, Kumbaya!
>
> Switzerland doesn't belong to the EU.
> The invasion has been taking place for years, but the Swiss are quiet,
> discreet, and have more money than Africans.

Quite deep sarchasm.

R

 

[benjo maso]

"Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> in message <Ao8li.106254$1i1.82707@pd7urf3no>, mimoso ('[email protected]')
> wrote:
>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Was there anyone else who thought it was strangely straightforward and
>>> too "good a story" that the most marked man in the pack soloed to a
>>> win ahead of the sprinters?
>>
>> first this is the beginning of TdF, second he's not a threat for GC,
>
> No?
>
> I agree he's not yet a very serious threat. But I also think he's
> under-rated. He stands a good chance of being stage winner on Stage 13 and
> Stage 20, since they're both CLMs and he is one of the best
> time-triallists in the peloton. However, you typically only gain seconds
> on CLM stages, and I expect he will lose minutes on some of the mountain
> stages, so I don't expect him to win this year. However, it depends to
> some extent on how much support the team give him - unlikely to be much,
> because Schleck and Sastre should be much better in the mountains. But if
> Sastre has a crash and CSC concentrate on getting Cancellara through the
> mountains...
>
> I don't expect he'll win this year, although if I could get a bet at the
> odds he was on last week, it would be worth a punt. But he'll be a serious
> GC contender within three years.


That's what Cancellara said himself.

Benjo

 

[Bill C]

On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
> in message <[email protected]>,
>
> RicodJour ('[email protected]') wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> corey wrote:
> >> > Could there have been an peloton agreement that photogenic, popular
> >> > Cancellara wins on "home turf"
>
> >> Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>
> > Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
> > all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
> > Kumbaya, Kumbaya!
>
> Switzerland isn't in the EU. It isn't in NATO, either. Switzerland's turf
> is Switzerland's turf and no-one else's; and all good red blooded Swiss
> men keep a machine carbine in the house to make sure it stays that way.
>
> --
> [email protected] (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> ;; killing [afghan|iraqi] civilians is not 'justice'

Hey Simon my E-mail is good how about answering a question I can't get
answered from HRW or Amnesty. What is a "civilian" especially when
they are providing many traditional military support roles for non-
traditional forces.
IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.
Bill C

 

[Mark & Steven Bornfeld]

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jul 11, 4:11 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 1:01 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>>> Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
>>> all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
>>> Kumbaya, Kumbaya!
>> Switzerland doesn't belong to the EU.
>> The invasion has been taking place for years, but the Swiss are quiet,
>> discreet, and have more money than Africans.
>
> Quite deep sarchasm.
>
> R
>


Fraudian slip? (nyuk, nyuk!)

Steve

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[[email protected]]

On Jul 11, 2:33 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
> combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.
> Bill C

Yep, you can't be too careful around those baby terrorists and their
fighting grannies. Heck, just let God sort 'em out, as the French
bishops used to say...

 

[[email protected]]

On Jul 11, 2:33 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Switzerland isn't in the EU. It isn't in NATO, either. Switzerland's turf
> > is Switzerland's turf and no-one else's; and all good red blooded Swiss
> > men keep a machine carbine in the house to make sure it stays that way.
>
> > --
> > [email protected] (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
> > ;; killing [afghan|iraqi] civilians is not 'justice'
>
> Hey Simon my E-mail is good how about answering a question I can't get
> answered from HRW or Amnesty. What is a "civilian" especially when
> they are providing many traditional military support roles for non-
> traditional forces.
> IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
> combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.

We're fighting a war with Switzerland now??!!
I don't think we can legitimately target Swiss civilians
even if they all have carbines in their basements.

Ben
At least we'll be able to rebuild Switzerland
with the income from its chocolate exports.

 

[Bill C]

On Jul 11, 6:13 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Jul 11, 2:33 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
> > combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.
> > Bill C
>
> Yep, you can't be too careful around those baby terrorists and their
> fighting grannies. Heck, just let God sort 'em out, as the French
> bishops used to say...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/07/11/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Quoted:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Civilians helped coalition and Iraqi forces
conduct a massive raid on an al Qaeda hideout in the town of Sherween,
leaving 20 suspected terrorists dead and 20 more in coalition custody,
the U.S. military said Wednesday.

How are they "civilians" if they are participating in a military
operation?
Bill C

 

[William Asher]

Bill C wrote:

>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/07/11/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss
> _topstories Quoted:
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Civilians helped coalition and Iraqi forces
> conduct a massive raid on an al Qaeda hideout in the town of Sherween,
> leaving 20 suspected terrorists dead and 20 more in coalition custody,
> the U.S. military said Wednesday.
>
> How are they "civilians" if they are participating in a military
> operation?
> Bill C
>
>

It says "helped," which probably means they stood there and pointed out
which house, rather than laying down covering fire or spearheading the
assault. In all likelihood, they pointed out the house of some rival tribe
members with which they had an ancient feud, and if the U.S. had gotten to
the people they had killed before they got to the ones providing
assistance, the dead people would be alive and referred to as helpers and
the living ones would be dead and referred to as suspected terrorists.

It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world.

--
Bill Asher

 

[benjo maso]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jul 11, 2:33 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
>> combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.
>> Bill C
>
> Yep, you can't be too careful around those baby terrorists and their
> fighting grannies. Heck, just let God sort 'em out, as the French
> bishops used to say...

The man whio is supposed to have said it wasn't a bishop (yet), but a monk,
the abbot of Cîteaux and the papal legate.His name was Amaury. Must be
related to the owner of the Tour (Amaury Sports Organisation). Can't be a
coincidence.

Benjo

 

[Steven L. Sheffield]

On 07/11/2007 01:55 PM, in article
[email protected], "Donald Munro"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> corey wrote:
>> Could there have been an peloton agreement that photogenic, popular
>> Cancellara wins on "home turf"
>
> Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?


Somebody thinking that just because Paris-Roubaix starts in Compiegne; some
100 km before any cobbled sections of that race, that Compiegne is
"home-turf" for Cancellara, because he won on the cobbles in Roubaix last
year.



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[RicodJour]

On Jul 11, 5:55 pm, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<[email protected]> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 4:11 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >> On Jul 11, 1:01 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On Jul 11, 3:55 pm, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Why hasn't CNN reported the invasion of France by Switzerland ?
>
> >>> Ummm, I think they call it the EU. There are no borders. They are
> >>> all brothers. Your turf is my turf. Everybody hold hands now.
> >>> Kumbaya, Kumbaya!
>
> >> Switzerland doesn't belong to the EU.
> >> The invasion has been taking place for years, but the Swiss are quiet,
> >> discreet, and have more money than Africans.
>
> > Quite deep sarchasm.
>
> Fraudian slip? (nyuk, nyuk!)

I thought he was Austrian.

R

 

[Kyle Legate]

Bill C wrote:
> On Jul 11, 6:13 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 2:33 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 4:16 pm, Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> IMO most of the "civilians" people are crying about are equivalent
>>> combatants to the Geneva Convention roles and are legitimate targets.
>>> Bill C
>> Yep, you can't be too careful around those baby terrorists and their
>> fighting grannies. Heck, just let God sort 'em out, as the French
>> bishops used to say...
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/07/11/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
> Quoted:
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Civilians helped coalition and Iraqi forces
> conduct a massive raid on an al Qaeda hideout in the town of Sherween,
> leaving 20 suspected terrorists dead and 20 more in coalition custody,
> the U.S. military said Wednesday.
>
> How are they "civilians" if they are participating in a military
> operation?
> Bill C
>
Thanks for hijacking the thread, dumbass. All the off-topic threads
aren't enough for you, you have to spoil this one too?

 

[Donald Munro]

benjo maso wrote:
> The man whio is supposed to have said it wasn't a bishop (yet), but a monk,
> the abbot of Cîteaux and the papal legate.His name was Amaury. Must be
> related to the owner of the Tour (Amaury Sports Organisation). Can't be a
> coincidence.

Must have something to do with that conspirancy involving Da Vinci
and some ancient order started by extraterrestrials who are involved in
supplying the peloton with blue cooler boxes full of **** that will kill
them.

 

[Donald Munro]

[email protected] wrote:
> At least we'll be able to rebuild Switzerland
> with the income from its chocolate exports.

And the Swiss are reputed to be obsessed with cleanliness and tidiness so
presumably they will at least clean up the streets after all those messy
IED explosions.

 

[Donald Munro]

Simon Brooke wrote:
>> I told you: God loves him. God so loves Tom Boonen that He smote Mark
>> Cavendish and Robbie McEwan on Sunday with the Holy Pump in the Spokes.

Bill C wrote:
> I don't know, but seems to me lots of Fundamentalists are losers. If
> everyone is praying for Gods help when one guy wins, does that mean
> God hates the rest?

I think he has to worry about being sued by the rest. And he doesn't like
cyclists because Eddy tried to cast him out of heaven.