Thanks Campybob. I test rode a Trek 7.4x last night and was pretty happy with (except the seat which was pretty uncomfortable). I also rode on the Verve 3, which seemed nice, but was concerned that it was too cushy. The one thing I didn't like on the 7.4x was leaning over a bit when riding. The store manager said he could replace the stem with a different one which make me a bit more upright. What do you think?