Can't hang w/the a group any more. what to do?

Discussion in 'Power Training' started by bulaboy, Nov 14, 2016.

  1. CAMPYBOB

    CAMPYBOB Well-Known Member

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    100 minutes on a trainer? Ain't going to happen. :(
     


  2. swampy1970

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    If you ride harder, it really doesn't seem to take as long.

    If you ride too hard then the inverse happens. Time crawls almost to a dead stop!
     
  3. luhai123

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    I think we should have a better measure of this measure. There are many problems with it.
     
  4. Jamiefarr54

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    I just got smoked again in the FSC series mountain bike race. I've just gotten a power meter I'm committed to not getting beat like a drum again. Starting a new training plan hope the power meter helps.
     
  5. steve

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    Body weight and power are what counts. Most of us can work on both areas ;)
     
  6. swampy1970

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    Weight is definitely easiest to fix, especially if you stick to shorter, sub 90 minute training sessions. I, and many that I've talked too, find that long, hard rides over a few hours tend to leave you wanting to inhale the contents of the fridge after a ride and this makes weight loss somewhat harder/slower.

    If you want to equate weight to power - 1lb gained means you need 1 more watt on a 7.5% hill. If you can stand to lose 20 lbs then that's many watts for 'free.' The steeper the hill gets, the more the weight counts. Jamie - where do you typically find yourself losing ground? On the hills, flat, downhills?
     
  7. Jamiefarr54

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    I've already lost about 45 lbs, don't really want to lose anymore. My body fat is around 9%. I just need to get stronger, my FTP is 227 right now. Maybe if I could get it around 250 I think I would have a better chance.
     
  8. RapDaddyo

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    That's interesting, because I'm the opposite. When I finish a long, hard multi-hour ride, I don't have an appetite for about 24 hours.
     
  9. CAMPYBOB

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    Update to my reply of almost two years ago:

    Subscribe to ZWIFT for your Winter training.

    The racing on Zwift is intense and the training programs and graphics will motivate you! You'll meet lots of othe fast old farts and some really fast young farts!

    Sufferfest, Trainer Road, Golden Cheetah, Rouvy, Virtugo, Road Grand Tours all have their strong points and are also fantastic indoor training programs. Most have free trials so give them all a try.

    I did 4,700 miles over last Winter on Zwift. It's probably the most popular of the computer based programs, but as stated above they all off something to every rider and racer. I came out swinging this Spring when I hit the road and the snow finally melted away, My conditioning actually declined a little when I stopped riding Zwift and moved back to 95%-98% road training / riding.

    Ride On!
     
  10. bulaboy

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    I saw a demo at the LBS last week. Looks like a great way to inject some fun into the suffering.
     
  11. Yojimbo_

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    Zwift is good but I think The Sufferfest will make you faster.
     
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