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Tom Kunich
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"Hadron Quark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You seem intent on spouting ridiculous reports which rely on minutae
> data to disprove something simple : a helmet protects the head.
So does a baseball cap. The difference in fact isn't large enough between a
bicycle crash helmet and a baseball cap to make much difference. If you WANT
to wear one that's perfectly OK with me. If you want to insist they work I
suggest you actually learn something. Start at the Snell Memorial
Foundation's web site. They will explain if you can understand fairly simple
mathematics, that their standard is pitifully inadequate for purposes of
simple protection in a dead stop fall-over.
After you finished with that you can look at the CPSC helmet standard and
you will see that standard is significantly BELOW the Snell standard.
Now go tune in to the one of the latest issues of Consumer Reports and
WHEEEEEEE - MOST of the helmets BARELY make the lower standard, a
significant number don't even pass that lower standard and the most
expensive helmets are worse that the cheaper ones.
Funny how education might modify the mind of someone who actually has one.
> Tell me : do gloves protect the hand? Or because they dont protect
> against a chain saw they are equally useless when doing manual labour?
> Your whole course of argument is fatally flawed.
If you're trying to protect your hand from a chainsaw with a glove then the
answer is NO. Go that? The BEST gloves won't protect your hand from a chain
saw. Or is it your suggestion that we redefine a gauntlet as a glove so that
you can feel clever?
If you're suggesting that gloves on a bicyclist are not significant
protection for your hands you are incorrect.
A bicycle helmet in the vast majority of serious or fatal bicycle accidents
has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER!!!
If you're trying to sell helmets as mediating minor head injuries then
indeed we have something to discuss. Perhaps THAT is the reason that you
wear a helmet? After all we have all seen the Bell and Giro ads - "Bicycle
Helmets Help Reduce Minor Injuries".
> Someone is holding a big stick covered in tar and gravel : now, would
> you prefer them to hit your bald head or your helemted head with it?
I can honestly say that in my 45 years of riding motorcycles all over the
US, road racing, desert racing, cross country, touring, Safety Director for
the American Federation of Motorcyclists, bicycling for the last 20 years,
off road, on road, road racing etc. I have NEVER heard of nor seen a single
head injury caused by a big stick covered in tar and gravel.
And I would be really interested in your discription of this accident in
which a helmet apparently saved your life.
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>
> You seem intent on spouting ridiculous reports which rely on minutae
> data to disprove something simple : a helmet protects the head.
So does a baseball cap. The difference in fact isn't large enough between a
bicycle crash helmet and a baseball cap to make much difference. If you WANT
to wear one that's perfectly OK with me. If you want to insist they work I
suggest you actually learn something. Start at the Snell Memorial
Foundation's web site. They will explain if you can understand fairly simple
mathematics, that their standard is pitifully inadequate for purposes of
simple protection in a dead stop fall-over.
After you finished with that you can look at the CPSC helmet standard and
you will see that standard is significantly BELOW the Snell standard.
Now go tune in to the one of the latest issues of Consumer Reports and
WHEEEEEEE - MOST of the helmets BARELY make the lower standard, a
significant number don't even pass that lower standard and the most
expensive helmets are worse that the cheaper ones.
Funny how education might modify the mind of someone who actually has one.
> Tell me : do gloves protect the hand? Or because they dont protect
> against a chain saw they are equally useless when doing manual labour?
> Your whole course of argument is fatally flawed.
If you're trying to protect your hand from a chainsaw with a glove then the
answer is NO. Go that? The BEST gloves won't protect your hand from a chain
saw. Or is it your suggestion that we redefine a gauntlet as a glove so that
you can feel clever?
If you're suggesting that gloves on a bicyclist are not significant
protection for your hands you are incorrect.
A bicycle helmet in the vast majority of serious or fatal bicycle accidents
has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER!!!
If you're trying to sell helmets as mediating minor head injuries then
indeed we have something to discuss. Perhaps THAT is the reason that you
wear a helmet? After all we have all seen the Bell and Giro ads - "Bicycle
Helmets Help Reduce Minor Injuries".
> Someone is holding a big stick covered in tar and gravel : now, would
> you prefer them to hit your bald head or your helemted head with it?
I can honestly say that in my 45 years of riding motorcycles all over the
US, road racing, desert racing, cross country, touring, Safety Director for
the American Federation of Motorcyclists, bicycling for the last 20 years,
off road, on road, road racing etc. I have NEVER heard of nor seen a single
head injury caused by a big stick covered in tar and gravel.
And I would be really interested in your discription of this accident in
which a helmet apparently saved your life.