Carbo loading & tapering for big rides (eg the Alpine!)



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Bleve

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There's lots of ways to taper and carboload, and most carbo loading
protocols are dated, complex and time consuming, but will get trotted
out all the same :)

Here's what I recommend to my riders (along with a reference to the
study that it's based on):

http://www.aboc.com.au/perl/tips.pl?p=carboload

Also, a taper for a major event starts generally about 1-2 weeks out
from the event. If you accept that physiological adaptations take
10-14 days to occur, then by now, you cannot get fitter for the Alpine
physically, but you can arrive at it in a well rested, but not
de-trained, state. The art of a taper is balancing the two. Too much
rest, and you detrain, too much work, and you're not ideally rested and
fresh. For everyone, this varies according to base fitness and
individual physiology. There's no one hard and fast "right" taper for
everyone. Eg a very fit racing cyclist may treat a 500km week as a
taper, while a recreational tootler may be overdoing it at 300km. If
you can't do 300km in a week, the 200km Alpine will be a .. challenge
:)

I'd suggest from now in to the Alpine, that anyone wishing to taper do
a few moderate hill efforts every 2-3 days, eg a pair of E2 or E3 (E2
for recreational riders who don't do much high intensity stuff) rides
up the 1:20, or a lap of Mt Dandenong and between, do some easy long
rides of 2-3 hours maximum duration. Next week, again, a couple of E2's
or E3's (high cadence, 85rpm+) up the 1:20 early in the week, and
shorter rides as the week draws to a close. No strength work for 3-4
days before the big ride (it usually takes many days to recover fully
from a strength effort!). Easy rides with some short, higher intensity
but low workload rides (high cadence, low resistance stuff, gets you
breathing hard but doesn't break your legs). JayWoo's big weekend two
weeks prior to the Alpine is a great example of a last "big" effort and
appropriate easing back to be as best prepared as possible.
 
On 10 Jan 2006 04:26:14 -0800, Bleve wrote:

> There's lots of ways to taper and carboload, and most carbo loading
> protocols are dated, complex and time consuming, but will get trotted
> out all the same :)


Beer is simple and has lots of carbos, and it's more fun to take than
rice and potatoes.

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Michael Warner said:
On 10 Jan 2006 04:26:14 -0800, Bleve wrote:
> There's lots of ways to taper and carboload, and most carbo loading
> protocols are dated, complex and time consuming, but will get trotted
> out all the same :)[/color]

Beer is simple and has lots of carbos, and it's more fun to take than
rice and potatoes.

More fun, yes. Better for you? No.

AIS on Alcohol & Sport:
http://www.ais.org.au/nutrition/documents/FactAlcohol.pdf

hippy
- Methinks the AIS don't endorse singlespeed culture :p
 
Bleve said:
Here's what I recommend to my riders (along with a reference to the
study that it's based on):

http://www.aboc.com.au/perl/tips.pl?p=carboload

Also, a taper for a major event starts generally about 1-2 weeks out
from the event.
The hard bit for me is going to be the 'tapering'. I'll be up there for a week prior camping twiddling my thumbs with all these lovely hills around me calling calling... "Jay Woo... Jay Woo... coming out for a climb?"


Jay "doesn't sit still very well" Woo
 
Tapering is usually about reducing volume, not intenity, there may be
some room for some climbing in that week.

PiledHIgher
 
PiledHigher wrote:
> Tapering is usually about reducing volume, not intenity, there may be
> some room for some climbing in that week.
>
> PiledHIgher


Which is why I wrote this :

Next week, again, a couple of E2's
or E3's (high cadence, 85rpm+) up the 1:20 early in the week, and
shorter rides as the week draws to a close.

RTFA :)
 
I did RTFA!

JayWoo followed up your article with a comment about twiddling thumbs.
He's the one that is stupid/clever enough to be doing the Alpine!

So tell him to RTFA!!!
 
PiledHigher wrote:
> I did RTFA!
>
> JayWoo followed up your article with a comment about twiddling thumbs.
> He's the one that is stupid/clever enough to be doing the Alpine!


hey, I'm doing it too!

(*very* slowly, definatly stupid .... :) )

> So tell him to RTFA!!!


:)
 
Bleve said:
PiledHigher wrote:
> I did RTFA!
>
> JayWoo followed up your article with a comment about twiddling thumbs.
> He's the one that is stupid/clever enough to be doing the Alpine!


hey, I'm doing it too!

(*very* slowly, definatly stupid .... :) )

> So tell him to RTFA!!!


:)
HA HA HA!
Spose I was trying to say that slow riding (as in taking it ezi) ain't my forte either. I am getting better at it though:)
Cool! I can play on Tawonga Gap, Mt B side...
 
I think JayWoo is slightly less stupid to be doing it than you are.

In this Alpine Classic we obey the laws of physics!
 
PiledHigher wrote:
> I think JayWoo is slightly less stupid to be doing it than you are.
>
> In this Alpine Classic we obey the laws of physics!


I have a 27, and 12 hours. No worries :)
 
Just because you can do a think in the alotted time, doesn't
necessarily mean it will be fun.

Ask some of the 12 hr ATBIADers!

But seriously, good luck to all those that are taking this on, maybe
I'll have a crack next year!
 
PiledHigher wrote:
> Just because you can do a think in the alotted time, doesn't
> necessarily mean it will be fun.


I like climbing, I'm just slow (fat, lazy sprinters....). But, I
*love* descending ...
 
Bleve said:
I have a 27, and 12 hours. No worries :)
Now that you have the bog cog on board go and try Warburton to Marysville and back via Cumberland Junction. It’s one of those rides that you don’t want to do but know you have too for some strange reason. It's a real grind for a standard double as I saw riders experiencing last Sunday. It was bad enough with a triple especially after Amy’s ride. I came back along the Acheron way but there was a bit of dirt to contend with unfortunately.
 
On 2006-01-12, PiledHigher (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> In this Alpine Classic we obey the laws of physics!


Does this mean that what goes up, must come down? Woohoo!

--
TimC
'Vegetarian' -- it's an old Indian word meaning 'lousy hunter'.
-- Red Green
 
Dancier wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
> >
> > I have a 27, and 12 hours. No worries :)

> Now that you have the bog cog on board go and try Warburton to
> Marysville and back via Cumberland Junction. It's one of those rides
> that you don't want to do but know you have too for some strange
> reason. It's a real grind for a standard double as I saw riders
> experiencing last Sunday. It was bad enough with a triple especially
> after Amy's ride. I came back along the Acheron way but there was a bit
> of dirt to contend with unfortunately.


I rode Baw Baw 3 weeks ago. Everything else in Australia is a doddle!
 
Bleve said:
PiledHigher wrote:
> I think JayWoo is slightly less stupid to be doing it than you are.
>
> In this Alpine Classic we obey the laws of physics!


I have a 27, and 12 hours. No worries :)

I am still waiting for my 28 to come in at my LBS. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad: I ordered it when I got the loony bike.

O well.. guess I'll have to pretend to be Kathy Watt, and tuffenupprincess! (and chuck some walking shoes into my jersey pockets)
 
JayWoo said:
Wha-cha biggest @ the mom?

25. Have been doing Kinglake and the likes on a 23 max. I am not that worried, but would like to have a bail out gear for when my little sad legs get tired ;) Also, I am only doing the 140km. Tawonga Mt Beauty side is my worry. I'll run up it if I have to :D