TKOS said:And I said the frame might be bad. Reread what I wrote. And read what the other posters wrote. Carbon is hand laid. Do it wrong and you get a **** flexible frame. Not at all what you want. All carbon is not good. Put Dura Ace on a **** frame and you get a **** bike. I was talking frame construction.
Do some research into how carbon frames are made and you will know that they aren't all good and high quality.
Uhm, I understand CF construction, thanks. Why, I even knew the big secret about CF, that it's "hand laid". Please, name some of these bad frames that you know of, these frames that are so "flexible".