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David Martin
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Ed Pirrero wrote:
> David Martin wrote:
> > Ed Pirrero wrote:
> > > > > And how many incidents of bikes with rim brakes have had the same thing
> > > > > happen?
> > > >
> > > > Zero, AFAIK.
> > >
> > > Of course, you haven't even bothered to look. When I was riding my
> > > cruiser bike, I once came off a curb and had the wheel come out of one
> > > of the drop outs. Turned the bars and threw me right onto the
> > > sidewalk. That bike had no front brake at all.
> > > There's one.
> > So your cruiser bike with *no front brake at all* has the wheel drop
> > out under gravity and you think this is an appropriate exampel to show
> > that a front wheel drops out through the influence of braking with rim
> > brakes?
>
> I didn't claim it had anything to do with braking forces. It had
> everything to do with gravity and user error.
You miss the point. When asked for an example of a bike with rim brakes
showing a front wheel ejection you post an example of a bike without
rim brakes.
> > Bizarre. If you can't get simple things right, how could one trust a
> > single thing you say.
>
> LOL. Irony.
At least I know the difference between a rim brake and no brake.
> > > I don't pretend - it's happened to me, before disk-brake bikes even
> > > existed. And I've had other front wheel incidents after transport that
> > > were quite obviously user error.
> > >
> > > All with rim brakes.
> >
> > No, one which you state with no brakes at all.
>
> Read what you're responding to before you respond.
In the set of incidents which you have reported, not all of them were
wheels equipped with rim brakes. Is (not all) != all too difficult to
comprehend?
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> David Martin wrote:
> > Ed Pirrero wrote:
> > > > > And how many incidents of bikes with rim brakes have had the same thing
> > > > > happen?
> > > >
> > > > Zero, AFAIK.
> > >
> > > Of course, you haven't even bothered to look. When I was riding my
> > > cruiser bike, I once came off a curb and had the wheel come out of one
> > > of the drop outs. Turned the bars and threw me right onto the
> > > sidewalk. That bike had no front brake at all.
> > > There's one.
> > So your cruiser bike with *no front brake at all* has the wheel drop
> > out under gravity and you think this is an appropriate exampel to show
> > that a front wheel drops out through the influence of braking with rim
> > brakes?
>
> I didn't claim it had anything to do with braking forces. It had
> everything to do with gravity and user error.
You miss the point. When asked for an example of a bike with rim brakes
showing a front wheel ejection you post an example of a bike without
rim brakes.
> > Bizarre. If you can't get simple things right, how could one trust a
> > single thing you say.
>
> LOL. Irony.
At least I know the difference between a rim brake and no brake.
> > > I don't pretend - it's happened to me, before disk-brake bikes even
> > > existed. And I've had other front wheel incidents after transport that
> > > were quite obviously user error.
> > >
> > > All with rim brakes.
> >
> > No, one which you state with no brakes at all.
>
> Read what you're responding to before you respond.
In the set of incidents which you have reported, not all of them were
wheels equipped with rim brakes. Is (not all) != all too difficult to
comprehend?
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