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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>gwhite wrote:
>>
>>>It is not in the general welfare of the United States,
>>>really its citizens, to make it a socialist state.
>>
>>That's just the Preamble, not the actual articles, i.e.
>>Law. I don't recall any precedent establishing supreme
>>court cases over 'general welfare' in the Preamble.
>>
>>And that diatribe which was snipped was rubbish.
>>Democracy is inherently social, we band together for
>>create a government, laws and enforcement. If 'we the
>>people' elect to have Social Security that's our
>>perogative and wiser people than you have learned not to
>>touch the 'third rail.'
>
>
> I suggest that all of our government is trying to balance
> the one against the other. You both have good points.
I once considered myself republican, or republican-
sympathetic. I was quite put off by the difference between
the great speaches of Reagan and how things actually
played out on the homefront and international stage. Some
good, but too much not good. I shifted my allegiance to
nobody in particular, trying to choose best candidates
based upon track record and results. Problem is, there's
damn few good ones, though I thought Clinton was doing a
pretty decent job.
I felt neither party had the upper hand on social programs,
particularly using elements as bargaining chips for votes.
The boldest move was the Clintons Universal Healthcare bid,
which failed, but quite likely for all the wrong reasons.
I'm middle class and am surrounded by others, futher down
the ladder than myself and healthcare is getting
monsterously expensive, particularly for families. Expect
that issue to be revisted again prior to the election.
Doctors aren't getting rich on this either.
I was a bit taken back when I was on vacation, years ago,
to Fayetteville, WV. A beautiful back woods town in
mountains on the New River Gorge, near the famous bridge. I
met a man who flew people over the gorge for a mere $5 (for
$7 he'd take you all the way up the river to Thurmond) a
bargain of epic proportions in the 90's. Frank served the
military as a pioneer aviator and trainer, now advanced in
his golden years (and sporting a pacemaker) he entertained
tourists, ran a makeshift museum, gave away kittens to good
homes and sold a couple books of his collected writings (It
Is This Way With Men Who Fly; West Virginia: State of
Confusion.) If you had time to spare and were willing to
chat you found yourself with a Real Republican, one of a
vanishing breed. He called Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan,
George Bush and the lot a bunch of hijackers who took the
party in directions it had no business going. You couldn't
tell the difference between the two parties and they were
simply in it for themselves. Frank and a handfull of old
republicans still inhabited the hills of West Virginia at
the time, but they would have nothing to do with politics
anymore, voting was a young man's game and gamble. If
you're interested in aviation history and/or West Virginia
politics, I recommend obtaining copies of his books. State
of Confusion may be more difficult to obtain as I have
found no reference for it on the web, though the other book
appears on Amazon at times.
As years go by I find myself more in agreement with Frank.
Wherever he is, I wish him well.
> Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>gwhite wrote:
>>
>>>It is not in the general welfare of the United States,
>>>really its citizens, to make it a socialist state.
>>
>>That's just the Preamble, not the actual articles, i.e.
>>Law. I don't recall any precedent establishing supreme
>>court cases over 'general welfare' in the Preamble.
>>
>>And that diatribe which was snipped was rubbish.
>>Democracy is inherently social, we band together for
>>create a government, laws and enforcement. If 'we the
>>people' elect to have Social Security that's our
>>perogative and wiser people than you have learned not to
>>touch the 'third rail.'
>
>
> I suggest that all of our government is trying to balance
> the one against the other. You both have good points.
I once considered myself republican, or republican-
sympathetic. I was quite put off by the difference between
the great speaches of Reagan and how things actually
played out on the homefront and international stage. Some
good, but too much not good. I shifted my allegiance to
nobody in particular, trying to choose best candidates
based upon track record and results. Problem is, there's
damn few good ones, though I thought Clinton was doing a
pretty decent job.
I felt neither party had the upper hand on social programs,
particularly using elements as bargaining chips for votes.
The boldest move was the Clintons Universal Healthcare bid,
which failed, but quite likely for all the wrong reasons.
I'm middle class and am surrounded by others, futher down
the ladder than myself and healthcare is getting
monsterously expensive, particularly for families. Expect
that issue to be revisted again prior to the election.
Doctors aren't getting rich on this either.
I was a bit taken back when I was on vacation, years ago,
to Fayetteville, WV. A beautiful back woods town in
mountains on the New River Gorge, near the famous bridge. I
met a man who flew people over the gorge for a mere $5 (for
$7 he'd take you all the way up the river to Thurmond) a
bargain of epic proportions in the 90's. Frank served the
military as a pioneer aviator and trainer, now advanced in
his golden years (and sporting a pacemaker) he entertained
tourists, ran a makeshift museum, gave away kittens to good
homes and sold a couple books of his collected writings (It
Is This Way With Men Who Fly; West Virginia: State of
Confusion.) If you had time to spare and were willing to
chat you found yourself with a Real Republican, one of a
vanishing breed. He called Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan,
George Bush and the lot a bunch of hijackers who took the
party in directions it had no business going. You couldn't
tell the difference between the two parties and they were
simply in it for themselves. Frank and a handfull of old
republicans still inhabited the hills of West Virginia at
the time, but they would have nothing to do with politics
anymore, voting was a young man's game and gamble. If
you're interested in aviation history and/or West Virginia
politics, I recommend obtaining copies of his books. State
of Confusion may be more difficult to obtain as I have
found no reference for it on the web, though the other book
appears on Amazon at times.
As years go by I find myself more in agreement with Frank.
Wherever he is, I wish him well.