Cesium Cures Cancer?

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"Dawn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Cesium is available in a safe form. I can let you know how to get it,
> just email me. Meanwhile, calcium in the proper form also does what
> cesium does - raises the body's pH, thereby allowing more oxygen into
> the body, and cancer cells can not survive an oxygenated environment
> and they die.

If you want to raise your body's pH, just do it in the usual way...breathe
faster. And I suppose if I am trying to create an "oxygenated environment" I
should stop eating all those foods containing cancer-preventing
anti-oxidents.

;o) Rich
 
>Subject: Re: Cesium Cures Cancer?
>From: "Doug" [email protected]
>Date: 1/8/04 10:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>

>Before I forget,
>When exactly did you become a chemist?

None of your business.

>And howcome you don't seem to know any chemistry?

Trying not to confuse those, like you, who have not gotten beyond potty
training.

>And what are you going to claim to be next week?
>
Well educated but....broke.

DrC PhD
 
Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
>
> It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
>
> j.

The difference is like night and day when you consider whether the
mineral is organic or inorganic.

An inorganic calcium is calcium carbonate, common limestone. Grind it
up and someone will claim the dust is good for you because it contains
calcium and "you need your calcium anyway."

An organic calcium is calcium casienate, the calcium in unpasteurized
milk. This a complex of calcium and protein. Heating the milk
destroys the complex.

Both will have totally different absorbtion rates and utilization in
the body.

The same is true with other minerals. Potassium is a cation with a
positive charge. Why is it that German research into biological
fluids containing potassium find it at the anode ( as if it were K-
and not K+ )?

Just some food for thought.

DrC PhD.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote:
>As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
>
>It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
>between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
>three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
>dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
>sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
>
>j.

Bear in mind, J, that Carole knows as much about chemistry as a pig
knows about patty-cake, so your explanation will simply cause her eyes
to glaze over. It won't shut her up, though.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)





>
>Carole wrote:
>> "Anth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>>Well I read the Brewer report and all the people who used the protocol died
>>>due to toxicity.
>>>Some of them had no evidence of cancer when they were autopsied though.
>>>As I recall the inside of cancer cells are no more acidic than normal cells.
>>>Anth
>>
>>
>> Cell acidity is one of the biggest causes of autointoxication from
>> what I have read in various sources including Paul Bragg's books, the
>> Biochemic Handbook on cellsalts, from personal experience of trial and
>> error and later on veterinary information about acidity in horses
>> leading of underperformance.
>>
>> Cellsalts which mostly eliminate acidity are sodium phosphate and
>> sodium sulphate, which aren't the same as table salt. But we are lead
>> to think that we have ample sodium in our diets because we consume
>> table salt. This is blatant misinformation and it amazes me that
>> nutritionists even believe this.
>>
>> What puzzles me though, is when you read these articles on micro/
>> trace minerals e.g., cesium, zinc, boron, selenium etc. being cures
>> for this and that - and nobody seems to consider the macro minerals
>> like calcium, potassium and sodium for example.
>>
>> If the micro minerals are so important to good health, are they more
>> important than the macro minerals? If 2/3 of 65+ have osteoporosis to
>> some extent, why would they need micro minerals rather than macro
>> minerals?
>> Perhaps in some people who have no major mineral deficiencies, some
>> trace minerals might have a dramatic effect but surely the priority
>> should be to remedy the macro minerals before considering anything
>> else.
>>
>> HOW WE BECOME ACID
>> THE DEVELOPMENT OF LATENT "ACIDOSIS"
>> http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/how.html
>>
>> Carole
>> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
>
 
MY MISTAKE, I said cation, I meant anion. So sorry
j.

Say not the Struggle nought Availeth wrote:
> As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
>
> It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
>
> j.
>
> Carole wrote:
>
>> "Anth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>> Well I read the Brewer report and all the people who used the
>>> protocol died
>>> due to toxicity.
>>> Some of them had no evidence of cancer when they were autopsied though.
>>> As I recall the inside of cancer cells are no more acidic than normal
>>> cells.
>>> Anth
>>
>>
>>
>> Cell acidity is one of the biggest causes of autointoxication from
>> what I have read in various sources including Paul Bragg's books, the
>> Biochemic Handbook on cellsalts, from personal experience of trial and
>> error and later on veterinary information about acidity in horses
>> leading of underperformance.
>>
>> Cellsalts which mostly eliminate acidity are sodium phosphate and
>> sodium sulphate, which aren't the same as table salt. But we are lead
>> to think that we have ample sodium in our diets because we consume
>> table salt. This is blatant misinformation and it amazes me that
>> nutritionists even believe this.
>>
>> What puzzles me though, is when you read these articles on micro/
>> trace minerals e.g., cesium, zinc, boron, selenium etc. being cures
>> for this and that - and nobody seems to consider the macro minerals
>> like calcium, potassium and sodium for example.
>>
>> If the micro minerals are so important to good health, are they more
>> important than the macro minerals? If 2/3 of 65+ have osteoporosis to
>> some extent, why would they need micro minerals rather than macro
>> minerals?
>> Perhaps in some people who have no major mineral deficiencies, some
>> trace minerals might have a dramatic effect but surely the priority
>> should be to remedy the macro minerals before considering anything
>> else.
>>
>> HOW WE BECOME ACID
>> THE DEVELOPMENT OF LATENT "ACIDOSIS"
>> http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/how.html
>>
>> Carole
>> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/acidity.htm
>
>
 
"Say not the Struggle nought Availeth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MY MISTAKE, I said cation, I meant anion. So sorry
> j.
>

That's okay, science had the polarities reversed for about fifty years.

;o) Rich
 
> Cesium is available in a safe form. I can let you know how to get it,
> just email me. Meanwhile, calcium in the proper form also does what
> cesium does - raises the body's pH, thereby allowing more oxygen into
> the body, and cancer cells can not survive an oxygenated environment
> and they die.

Actually no. We're talking about intracellular (within the cell), not
about blood plasma levels or in the intestines. Most people do not
need extra calcium; especially in the form they get it in. Not unless
they want kindney stones.


BETTER YET! Cesium Bicarbonate
(or would that burn a hole through ya)

http://specialmetals.chemetall.com/specialmetals/smd.nsf/PDF/csbicarbonath.r..pdf/$file/cs+bicarbonat+h.r..pdf


CO2 + H20 <---> H2CO3 (carbonic acid) <---> H+ + HCO3- (bicarbonate)
 
Here's paper on cesium chloride and cancer.
http://www.ithyroid.com/cesium.htm

Title

Cesium therapy in cancer patients.

Author

Sartori HE

Source

Pharmacol Biochem Behav, 21 Suppl 1():11-3 1984

Abstract

The effect of cesium therapy on various cancers is reported. A total of 50
patients were treated over a 3 year period with CsCl. The majority of the
patients have been unresponsive to previous maximal modalities of cancer
treatment and were considered terminal cases. The Cs-treatment consisted of
CsCl in addition to some vitamins, minerals, chelating agents and salts of
selenium, potassium and magnesium. In addition, a special diet was also
instituted. There was an impressive 50% recovery of various cancers, i.e.,
cancer of unknown primary, breast, colon, prostate, pancrease, lung, liver,
lymphoma, ewing sarcoma of the pelvis and adeno-cancer of the gallbladder,
by the Cs-therapy employed. There was a 26% and 24% death within the initial
2 weeks and 12 months of treatment, respectively. A consistent finding in
these patients was the disappearance of pain within the initial 3 days of
Cs-treatment. The small number of autopsies made showed the absence of
cancer cells in most cases and the clinical impression indicates a
remarkably successful outcome of treatment.

Anth
 
(There's no cancer types,staging,follow ups - imo the paper is useless for
assesment)
Anth

"Anth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here's paper on cesium chloride and cancer.
> http://www.ithyroid.com/cesium.htm
>
> Title
>
> Cesium therapy in cancer patients.
>
> Author
>
> Sartori HE
>
> Source
>
> Pharmacol Biochem Behav, 21 Suppl 1():11-3 1984
>
> Abstract
>
> The effect of cesium therapy on various cancers is reported. A total of 50
> patients were treated over a 3 year period with CsCl. The majority of the
> patients have been unresponsive to previous maximal modalities of cancer
> treatment and were considered terminal cases. The Cs-treatment consisted
of
> CsCl in addition to some vitamins, minerals, chelating agents and salts of
> selenium, potassium and magnesium. In addition, a special diet was also
> instituted. There was an impressive 50% recovery of various cancers, i.e.,
> cancer of unknown primary, breast, colon, prostate, pancrease, lung,
liver,
> lymphoma, ewing sarcoma of the pelvis and adeno-cancer of the gallbladder,
> by the Cs-therapy employed. There was a 26% and 24% death within the
initial
> 2 weeks and 12 months of treatment, respectively. A consistent finding in
> these patients was the disappearance of pain within the initial 3 days of
> Cs-treatment. The small number of autopsies made showed the absence of
> cancer cells in most cases and the clinical impression indicates a
> remarkably successful outcome of treatment.
>
> Anth
>
>
 
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:42:30 GMT, Say not the Struggle nought Availeth
<[email protected]> wrote:

>dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
>sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.

By the way, in these cases the cation (sodium) is the same :) Did you
mean anion?? Or perhaps you have never heard about that word
(otherwise you should have known that cation is the positive ion, that
is, sodium :)
 
Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
>
> It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.

I'm not sure what a cation is. Is it when sodium chloride gets broken
up into sodium and chloride, and perhaps reforms into other
combinations?

Regarding table salt, I don't think it is an acceptable form of
sodium. The reason I say this is through my experience with taking
cellsalts. If I get knotted muscles in my neck or shoulders and take
sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate tablets, it gets rid of it. I
have never noticed that table salt has this effect. And another thing
is that I used to get housedust allergies which would only be
alleviated by taking homeopathic sodium chloride (nat mur 6x), whereas
straight table salt had no effect.

Therefore I conclude that table salt isn't an acceptable form of
sodium for nutritional purposes. If there was a tablet called chelated
sodium which would then break down into the three sodiums (phosphate,
sulphate and chloride) it would probably do the job, as I observe that
chelated potassium alleviates all deficiency symptoms related to
potassium phosphate, sulphate and chloride.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/salt.htm
 
[email protected] (drceephd) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> > It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> > between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> > three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> > dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> > sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
> >
> > j.
>
> The difference is like night and day when you consider whether the
> mineral is organic or inorganic.
>
> An inorganic calcium is calcium carbonate, common limestone. Grind it
> up and someone will claim the dust is good for you because it contains
> calcium and "you need your calcium anyway."

You might have a point about organic and inorganic but are you sure
limestone isn't organic?
I have found calcium carbonate to be a very acceptable form of
calcium.
And I've tried a lot of different forms of calcium - dolomite, oyster
shell, calcium gluconate and lactate. Calcium carbonate tablets are
strong, 500mg of elemental calcium in each tablet, and work quickly to
alleviate any calcium deficiency symptoms.
I've been taking calcium tablets for nearly 30 years and used to take
massive amounts on a daily basis. Maybe in the textbooks calcium
carbonate is not all that desirable, but I've actually taken all these
different forms and the old saying goes that "the proof of the pudding
is in the eating".

> An organic calcium is calcium casienate, the calcium in unpasteurized
> milk. This a complex of calcium and protein. Heating the milk
> destroys the complex.
>
> Both will have totally different absorbtion rates and utilization in
> the body.
>
> The same is true with other minerals. Potassium is a cation with a
> positive charge. Why is it that German research into biological
> fluids containing potassium find it at the anode ( as if it were K-
> and not K+ )?
>
> Just some food for thought.
>
> DrC PhD.

I think there is a lot of disinformation in all our science books and
misleading information. Education is designed to support the status
quo and to socialise people - these days if you get onto something
they don't want known you get DDT'd - silenced, ridiculed or
ex-communicated. Isn't that right?

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm
 
[email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]> wrote:
> >As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too much sodium.
> >
> >It is my impression, that there is no difference in the sodium delivery
> >between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and sodium sulphate. In all
> >three, molecule, when placed in aqueous solution, immediately
> >dissociates into the sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate,
> >sulphate). What the cation does thereafter is different.
> >
> >j.
>
> Bear in mind, J, that Carole knows as much about chemistry as a pig
> knows about patty-cake, so your explanation will simply cause her eyes
> to glaze over. It won't shut her up, though.
>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
> "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
> were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)


Very entertaining Dave ...I am suitably amused.
But what you're saying is that I need to go and get some scientific
training so I can be as brain-washed as you. They tell you the rules,
how to apply them, a few case histories but you aren't encouraged to
think for yourself. Neither are you allowed to recommend nutrition
based remedies. Its all about supporting the pharmaceutical-chemical
cartel.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/health.htm
 
[email protected] (Carole) wrote:

> Say not the Struggle nought Availeth <[email protected]>
> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> As to sodium, we actually, on an average, consume way too
>> much sodium.
>>
>> It is my impression, that there is no difference in the
>> sodium delivery between sodium chloride, sodium phosphate
>> and sodium sulphate. In all three, molecule, when placed
>> in aqueous solution, immediately dissociates into the
>> sodium ion and the cation (chloride, phosphate, sulphate).
>> What the cation does thereafter is different.
>
> I'm not sure what a cation is. Is it when sodium chloride
> gets broken up into sodium and chloride, and perhaps
> reforms into other combinations?
>
> Regarding table salt, I don't think it is an acceptable
> form of sodium. The reason I say this is through my
> experience with taking cellsalts. If I get knotted muscles
> in my neck or shoulders and take sodium phosphate and
> sodium sulphate tablets, it gets rid of it. I have never
> noticed that table salt has this effect. And another thing
> is that I used to get housedust allergies which would only
> be alleviated by taking homeopathic sodium chloride (nat
> mur 6x), whereas straight table salt had no effect.
>
> Therefore I conclude that table salt isn't an acceptable
> form of sodium for nutritional purposes. If there was a
> tablet called chelated sodium which would then break down
> into the three sodiums (phosphate, sulphate and chloride)
> it would probably do the job, as I observe that chelated
> potassium alleviates all deficiency symptoms related to
> potassium phosphate, sulphate and chloride.

It's the Iodine Conspiracy. The iodine industry has its claws
into our bodies and they'll never let us go. We're all screwed.

We might as well all get together for one final orgy. Get your
shorts off, and let's party!!

> Carole
> http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/salt.htm
>
 
"Rich Shewmaker" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Say not the Struggle nought Availeth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > MY MISTAKE, I said cation, I meant anion. So sorry
> > j.
> >
>
> That's okay, science had the polarities reversed for about fifty years.
>
> ;o) Rich

There's a lot of things in science that are a bit funny -

The scandal of general relativity and quantum mechanics 
Roger Anderson
http://www.einsteinconspiracy.co.uk

And scalar or plasma technologies invented by Tesla which are capable
of weather engineering, man-made earthquakes, ufos, new types of
healing, mind control etc.
http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/science.htm
 
[email protected] (Hurt Beyond Repair) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Cesium is available in a safe form. I can let you know how to get it,
> > just email me. Meanwhile, calcium in the proper form also does what
> > cesium does - raises the body's pH, thereby allowing more oxygen into
> > the body, and cancer cells can not survive an oxygenated environment
> > and they die.
>
> Actually no. We're talking about intracellular (within the cell), not
> about blood plasma levels or in the intestines. Most people do not
> need extra calcium; especially in the form they get it in. Not unless
> they want kindney stones.

I don't believe that. I think this type of negative information about
nutrition is meant to scare people off nutritional remedies. They give
calcium supplements to dogs, and massive amounts to horses to get them
into top form.

Why is it considered important for animals to have proper nutrition to
keep them in top condition, but not people? This website also promotes
a product for keeping the blood from getting too acid, and also a high
potassium product.

Cyberhorse website
http://www.cyberhorse.net.au/iah/calciplex.htm
To keep bones strong and healthy, horses must receive enough calcium
to meet their daily needs. If they don't, they must "borrow" what they
need from their bones, depleting reserves of this essential nutrient.
Calcium deficiency in young horses causes them to grow with weak thin
bones, whereas older horses can suffer from brittle bones and
lameness. 
To prevent these problems, calcium supplementation is necessary,
particularly growing and breeding horses, those on high grain diets
and horses grazing tropical pastures.
Calcium is also important for the proper functioning of nerves and
muscles, so adequate daily intake is absolutely necessary for
competition horses to perform at their best.
The following dose rates provide NRC# 50-100% of the horse's daily
calcium requirement for each class of horse.

Horses in Work - 60 g to 120 g/day
Lactating Mares - 80 g to 160 g/day
Horses Spelling - 30 g to 60 g/day
Dry Mares - 30 g to 60 g/day
Stallions - 50 g to 100 g/day
Yearlings - 50 g to 100 g/day
Pregnant Mares - 50 g to 100 g/day
Weanlings - 60 g to 120 g/day

Contrast that with 1g for people.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/purification.htm
 
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