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Joel Mayes

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Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the
ride in a chopper and show footage of cars driving on the wrong side of
the road to over take then cutting in front of the cyclist with a voice
over talking about how these ``mad cyclist'' are forcing drivers to
drive dangerously(!) by taking up lanes on the road, also showed footage
of the bunch going through a T-junction with traffic lights with
a voice over about cyclist running red lights, even though the colour
of the light wasn't visible in the footage.

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Joel Mayes wrote:
> Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the ride
> in a chopper and show footage of cars driving on the wrong side of the
> road to over take then cutting in front of the cyclist with a voice over
> talking about how these ``mad cyclist'' are forcing drivers to drive
> dangerously(!) by taking up lanes on the road, also showed footage of
> the bunch going through a T- junction with traffic lights with a voice
> over about cyclist running red lights, even though the colour of the
> light wasn't visible in the footage.
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G'day Joel

I did the 'hell ride' on Saturday. Everybody was concerned when th
channel 7 chopper followed the whole ride, that it was going to b
another negative story on cyclists. I did't see 7 news, (does anyone
but nothing they do surprises me. I'd like to thank those 'critica
mass' morons for getting this type of story back on th
agenda!......BTW, the 'Hell Ride' was extremely well behaved...I go
dropped early, but a few mates held on & they didn't recall ANY re
lights being run........so what are we going to do about it?.....I vot
we all boycott channel 7....shouldn't be too hard...since they lost th
footy I don't think I've watched any of their offerings anyway (LOL)

cheers

Hitch


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Joel Mayes <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the
> ride in a chopper and show footage of cars driving on the wrong side of
> the road to over take then cutting in front of the cyclist with a voice
> over talking about how these ``mad cyclist'' are forcing drivers to
> drive dangerously(!) by taking up lanes on the road, also showed footage
> of the bunch going through a T-junction with traffic lights with
> a voice over about cyclist running red lights, even though the colour
> of the light wasn't visible in the footage.


Selective editing, a common trait for this slop. The T intersection
was terrible. You had know way of knowing if the bunch did have a
green light.

But. Gotta admit, the footage of 5-6 wide cyclists and into the second
lane didn't look to flash, with cars trying get past.


Beautiful moment at the shocking spot around Charman Rd where the road
becomes one lane. A big one is going to happen there one day.
 
>but a few mates held on & they didn't recall ANY red
> lights being run

They were all YELLOW officer, all 56* of them
stu :)

*(thats a rough count from an old melways)
 
Stu wrote:
> >but a few mates held on & they didn't recall ANY red lights being run

> They were all YELLOW officer, all 56* of them stu :)
> *(thats a rough count from an old melways)




g'day,

You wouldn't be bucking for a job at 7 by any chance would you
Stu?....you obviously weren't there on Sat anyway, (& I do appreciate
the comment is tongue in cheek!)......it would seem to me that following
the whole 1 & 1/2 hours of the hell ride to get 2 mins worth of footage
might be overkill......wonder what a chopper costs to fly for that
long.....the whole story reminds me of the old show by the 'panel' guys,
"Frontline".....you know, think of a story, put your own skew on
it....then go find some selectively edited footage to prove your
point.....just as well it was on 7 though....If it had of been on a
station with some viewers.......,

cheers,

Hitchy



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Couldn't believe that they cut off that police office right at the en
of the story. He said something about drivers having to start respectin
cyclists. I bet he had a lot more to say than that. They didn't explor
that side of things at all and just put a token sentence in there as i
that would add balance to the whole story


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On 29 Feb 2004 11:37:19 GMT, Joel Mayes <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the
>ride in a chopper and show footage of cars driving on the wrong side of
>the road to over take then cutting in front of the cyclist with a voice
>over talking about how these ``mad cyclist'' are forcing drivers to
>drive dangerously(!) by taking up lanes on the road, also showed footage
>of the bunch going through a T-junction with traffic lights with
>a voice over about cyclist running red lights, even though the colour
>of the light wasn't visible in the footage.


Reminds me of the channel 9 footage not long ago where the voice-over
talked about running a red at a pedestrian crossing (complete with
pedestrian starting to cross and jumping back in fright), when you
could see that the light was red for the pedestrian who was a channel
9 employee.

Funny thing is that one of the journos at 7 is a keen
cyclist/triathlete.

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Regards.
Richard.
 
"Hitchy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Stu wrote:
> > >but a few mates held on & they didn't recall ANY red lights being run

> > They were all YELLOW officer, all 56* of them stu :)
> > *(thats a rough count from an old melways)

>
>
>

2 mins worth of footage
> might be overkill......wonder what a chopper costs to fly for that
> long.....


<snip>

Maybe they were hoping for some carnage for their show... I mean News.
 
That might be Jennifer Adams - I saw her in Cafe Racer one Saturday morning
all decked out in cycling gear...
 
Hitchy <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Joel Mayes wrote:

[snip]>
> I did the 'hell ride' on Saturday. Everybody was concerned when the
> channel 7 chopper followed the whole ride, that it was going to be
> another negative story on cyclists. I did't see 7 news, (does anyone)
> but nothing they do surprises me. I'd like to thank those 'critical
> mass' morons for getting this type of story back on the
> agenda!......BTW, the 'Hell Ride' was extremely well behaved...I got
> dropped early, but a few mates held on & they didn't recall ANY red
> lights being run........so what are we going to do about it?.....I vote
> we all boycott channel 7....shouldn't be too hard...since they lost the
> footy I don't think I've watched any of their offerings anyway (LOL),
>
>


They had footage of the ride going into Frankston (I think) as the
bunch spreads across the lanes as guys try to get a better position
for the hills. It was very selective editing, but there was no doubt
the bunch was taking up two lanes and holding a line of cars up behind
it in the second lane. This was more the crux of the storey, in that
the Hell Ride rarely rides just two a breast and commonly will take up
more than one lane.

And in my expereince, on a big day, this happens often. And it seems,
this, more than anything, pisses motorists off, forcing them to take
risks to go around.

You should consider the risk vs gain of such a ride, and consider the
three ambulances, the dozen riders down, the broken hip and
collarbones of last Tuesday's Nth road ride.
 
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:08:36 +1100, "Jess" <[email protected]> wrote:

>That might be Jennifer Adams - I saw her in Cafe Racer one Saturday morning
>all decked out in cycling gear...


If you were responding to my post above, I was thinking of Jonathon
Creek. Rides a very nice looking Wilier.

Channel 7 (Melb) used to do news. So they got rid of their news
editor.


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Regards.
Richard.
 
"rickster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hitchy <[email protected]> wrote in message

news:<[email protected]>...
> > Joel Mayes wrote:

[...]

> And in my expereince, on a big day, this happens often. And it seems,
> this, more than anything, pisses motorists off, forcing them to take
> risks to go around.


Not just motorists! I don't do a lot if cycling and have very little
experience with bunches like this. My only experience was bad. I went in
the Sydney to the 'Gong last year. I was appalled to see (in a nice casual
ride like that) bunches of flash looking riders going down the 2nd of two
lanes so they could get past all us "slow" riders.

I guess the pack mentality (we are a large group, we are invincible) is in
us all, and I can understand how it would feel to be part of the pack but I
have to ask - is it really worth it?

Brian.
 
Brian Watson wrote:
> Not just motorists! I don't do a lot if cycling and have very little
> experience with bunches like this. My only experience was bad. I went in
> the Sydney to the 'Gong last year. I was appalled to see (in a nice casual
> ride like that) bunches of flash looking riders going down the 2nd of two
> lanes so they could get past all us "slow" riders.


You put enough humans in one place, you're going to get the usual
proportion of wankers, be they cyclists (flash-looking or otherwise),
motorists, or Channel 7 news executives.

&roo
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:37:19 +0000, Joel Mayes wrote:

> Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the
> ride in a chopper and show footage of cars driving on the wrong side of
> the road to over take then cutting in front of the cyclist with a voice
> over talking about how these ``mad cyclist'' are forcing drivers to
> drive dangerously(!) by taking up lanes on the road, also showed footage
> of the bunch going through a T-junction with traffic lights with
> a voice over about cyclist running red lights, even though the colour
> of the light wasn't visible in the footage.


The riders should get a group together, sue them for slander.
Must be something about inciting hatred that could be thrown in
there too.

Apart from thousands in a settlement, a nice apology and
prime-time retraction could be satisfying.

-kt
 
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:37:19 +0000, Joel Mayes wrote:

> Had a story on the `Hell Ride', very anti-bicycle they followed the


Heh...
Should have called it the "Heck Ride";
then no-one would be upset ;)

-kt
 
> You should consider the risk vs gain of such a ride, and consider the

> three ambulances, the dozen riders down, the broken hip and


> collarbones of last Tuesday's Nth road ride


What ****. There was no correlation between cars, lanes, drivers and last
Tuesday's accident. Dozen riders down is **** too. That accident had nothing
to do with the issue being discussed. That's what causes a lot of the
frustrations between bikes and cars - people throwing in red herrings!
 
"rickster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...


> And in my expereince, on a big day, this happens often. And it seems,
> this, more than anything, pisses motorists off, forcing them to take
> risks to go around.


Nothing FORCES anyone to take risks. They choose to do so.

They wouldn't do it if it was a slow car/tractor/truck in front of them.
So why MUST they squeeze past just because it's a human powered vehicle?


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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]
 
Peter Cremasco wrote:
> Nothing FORCES anyone to take risks. They choose to do so.
> They wouldn't do it if it was a slow car/tractor/truck in front of them.
> So why MUST they squeeze past just because it's a human powered vehicle?



This is all too common everywhere. Motorists overtake cyclists in th
most ridiculous places, where they would never consider overtakin
other "vehicles". I have taken to riding in the centre of the lane fo
two reasons

1) The LHS is where all the patches, holes, broken glass, stones
frayed tarmac edges, soft shoulders etc. etc. exist (not a saf
place to be)

2) Stupid motorists are less inclined to squeeze past in stupid places
they just get ****** off that they have to use the brake or tak
their foot off the accelerator

BTW a previous post suggested that the news reporter/ editor migh
apologise for a biased story. In your dreams. Apparently there is n
compulsion for reports to be unbiased or balanced under th
voluntary code


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Michael Day <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[...]

> What ****. There was no correlation between cars, lanes, drivers and
> last Tuesday's accident. Dozen riders down is **** too. That accident
> had nothing to do with the issue being discussed. That's what causes
> a lot of the frustrations between bikes and cars - people throwing in
> red herrings!


What happened?

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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Peter Cremasco <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "rickster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...

>
> > And in my expereince, on a big day, this happens often. And it seems,
> > this, more than anything, pisses motorists off, forcing them to take
> > risks to go around.

>
> Nothing FORCES anyone to take risks. They choose to do so.
>
> They wouldn't do it if it was a slow car/tractor/truck in front of them.
> So why MUST they squeeze past just because it's a human powered vehicle?
>
>


Becasue the human powered vehicle is illegally in the second lane
(both lanes) leaving the motorist no where to go. A slow
truck/tractor will only be in ONE lane.

See the difference ?
 

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