On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:04:25 +0800, "Moosh
" <
[email protected]> wrote:
>Mack, You snipped the diabetes group off this. I wonder
>why. I've put it back for you
>
>
>
>On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:33:32 -0500, Mack©®
><
[email protected]> posted:
>
>>On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:32:00 +0800, "Moosh
"
>><
[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 23:42:51 +1100, Alan
>>><
[email protected]> posted:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:34:37 +0800, "Moosh
"
>>>><
[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 12 Mar 2004 07:54:54 -0800,
[email protected]
>>>>>(tcomeau) posted:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kev <
[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:<BC768C8A.14330%
[email protected]>...
>>>>>>> Where do you buy your cheap bulk Cinnamon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want to cut your risk of diabetes, for real,
>>>>>>just cut the refined and high-GI carbs from your diet.
>>>>>>Especially sugars.
>>>>>
>>>>>Makes no difference unless you are talking about type 2
>>>>>and you don't cut your calories and take more exercise,
>>>>>and thus already have the disease.
>>>>
>>>>The lack of understanding of T2 displayed in those two
>>>>posts led me to check the cross-posts. Being
>>>>simplistically almost right is better than being totally
>>>>wrong I suppose. If either of you actually have T2 and
>>>>want to learn a little more on the subject, cut the
>>>>sci.med.nutrition header and come over to a.s.d. for a
>>>>little education. You'd be welcome.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
>>>
>>>Another "expert because he has it"?
>>>
>>>The DM groups are full of them.
>>>
>>>Type two DM is characteristcally caused by having the
>>>genetic prediposition and then sitting on your ass for a
>>>few decades, eating too much, and becoming obese. Excess
>>>calories and lack of exercise are what contribute to it.
>>>Once you have it, then exercise, calorie reduced diet and
>>>strict carb reduction may help the continual progress of
>>>the disease. Eventually, if you live long enough, you
>>>will likely need drugs and/or insulin.
>>
>>well that certainly explains the thin, physically active
>>type 2s.
>
>No, only the 90% of obese ones. Did you not realise that
>type 2 DM covers several diseases? The one I described is
>the epidemic that experts are worried about. The
>obesity/exersise jobby. The syndrome X sequel.
>
>>>The other silly bugger still thinks that sugar diabetes
>>>is caused by eating too much sugar. He claims to feel ill
>>>when he eats carbohydrates and so I suspect he is
>>>syndrome X.
>>>
>>>What do you think you can add to that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>are you saying that a diabetic who eats to many carbs and
>>has high blood sugar doesn't feel sick?
>
>Not at all. But the other silly bugger claims not to be a
>diabetic.
>
>>do you know even know what it feels like to have a BG in
>>excess of 250 mg/dl?
>
>Usually symptomless, unless you go acidic.
thank you, you just proved beyond any doubt that you know
only what you have read on the web and have no personal
experience.
please continue to lie and prove yourself a fruit cake
>
>>how about in excess of 800
>>mg/dl?
>
>Unusual as the kidneys tend to spill excess glucose way
>before this level. But is this relevant to someone who
>claims a normal bg level?
>
>>you know just enough about diabetes to sound like you are
>>informed,
>
>So why are you not adding to what I said? Different disease
>to yours?
>
>> to someone who doesn't know anything about it. But to
>> those of us who have lived our lives, all of our lives,
>> as diabetics you sound like you are serious need of an
>> education.
>
>So what is missing? What gives you with Type 1 DM any cred
>with type 2, or didn't you realise they were different
>diseases?
>
>
>Perhaps if you reread what I said?
