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  1. Leo Lichtman said:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen through the
    stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I knew a
    mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were sick, on
    the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she was a
    dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

  2. Terry Morse said:
    Pat in TX said:

    There is more to electrolytes that just sodium chloride. You need to
    study
    some more.

    Yet the only electrolyte that's been shown to get depleted to
    performance affecting levels is sodium. Sweating out all your sodium
    stores can make you very sick.

    Plenty of anecdotes that potassium can help prevent muscle cramps,
    though.

    I generally use dextrose (blood sugar), protein (whey), and "low salt",
    which has both salt and potassium.

    --
    Bob in CT

  3. "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Leo Lichtman said:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen through the
    stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I knew a
    mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were sick,
    on
    the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she was a
    dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

  4. trino said:

    "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Leo Lichtman said:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen through the
    stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I knew a
    mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were sick,
    on
    the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she was a
    dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

    Shakespear called it "Much Ado About Nothing"

  5. Quoted message said:

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    He makes sense. Gatorade or Powerade is really not all that expensive,
    especially if you pick it up in the supermarket (as opposed to a
    convenient store) and water it down. This seems like the kind of stuff
    that if you start splitting hairs as to what's best to drink, you never
    stop splitting hairs. If you're thirsty, drink something: water,
    Kool-Aid, Gatorade, juice, whatever. Whatever satisfies your mouth and
    keeps you going.

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    He makes sense. Gatorade or Powerade is really not all that expensive,
    especially if you pick it up in the supermarket (as opposed to a
    convenient store) and water it down. This seems like the kind of stuff
    that if you start splitting hairs as to what's best to drink, you never
    stop splitting hairs. If you're thirsty, drink something: water,
    Kool-Aid, Gatorade, juice, whatever. Whatever satisfies your mouth and
    keeps you going.


    I was not trying to split hairs. I just offered an alternative to sports
    drinks. Some thought it was a good idea which is what I was going for. Not
    a war. I was flamed plenty and some people just do not get it. We are all
    allowed an opinion. Why was I ridiculed? No good turn goes unpunished.
    Makes me think twice about coming back here when everybody gets so offensive
    over a simple suggestion. which was by the way supported by a nutritionist
    for the drinks and the bars.
    So kill me.

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    He makes sense. Gatorade or Powerade is really not all that expensive,
    especially if you pick it up in the supermarket (as opposed to a
    convenient store) and water it down. This seems like the kind of stuff
    that if you start splitting hairs as to what's best to drink, you never
    stop splitting hairs. If you're thirsty, drink something: water,
    Kool-Aid, Gatorade, juice, whatever. Whatever satisfies your mouth and
    keeps you going.

    Besides If you buy it by the bottle it sure as hell is a big expense.
    Sugar and salt plus water is still free almost. It is just not as fancy,
    and status branded. If they said sewer water was good for you would you buy
    it. Russia in fact uses it to cure all their diseases so I guess that was a
    bad example for my purposes but you know what I am saying.
    Have a good life
    wonderful day today

  8. gds said:


    trino said:

    "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Leo Lichtman wrote:
    > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen


    through the

    Quoted message said:

    > stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I


    knew a

    Quoted message said:

    > mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were


    sick,

    Quoted message said:

    > on
    > the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she


    was a

    Quoted message said:

    > dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of


    powdered

    Quoted message said:

    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

    Shakespear called it "Much Ado About Nothing"

    I also make my own replenishment drink. I use dextrose, protein, and
    other stuff. To each his own.

    --
    Bob in CT

  9. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    gds said:


    trino said:

    "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > Leo Lichtman wrote:
    >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >> This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen
    through the
    >> stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I
    knew a
    >> mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were
    sick,
    >> on
    >> the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she
    was a
    >> dumb peroxide blonde.
    >
    > The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    > Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    > of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    > joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    > Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of
    powdered
    > Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    > cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    > out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.
    >
    > It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

    Shakespear called it "Much Ado About Nothing"

    I also make my own replenishment drink. I use dextrose, protein, and
    other stuff. To each his own.

    --
    Bob in CT
    I also make my own replenishment drink. I use dextrose, protein, and
    other stuff. To each his own.

    protein is good too for performance
    there is a good article on energy bars at olsen on your side as well.
    http://vancouver.ctv.ca/olsen.jsp just do a search top right

    suit yourself on those facts
    have a g'day

  10. On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:56:52 -0400, trino <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Leo Lichtman said:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen through
    the
    stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I
    knew a
    mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were
    sick,
    on
    the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she
    was a
    dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

    I also use my own drinks. I support you, even if Gatorade is cheap. And,
    I used to ride (though not every day) in the southern and mid AZ desert
    (thankfully, I moved from there).

    --
    Bob in CT

  11. Bob in CT said:
    Quoted message said:


    I also use my own drinks. I support you, even if Gatorade is cheap. And,
    I used to ride (though not every day) in the southern and mid AZ desert
    (thankfully, I moved from there).

    --
    Bob in CT

    Gee, I moved here from CT. I wouldn't trade the Sonoran Desert for
    anywhere!

  12. "gds" wrote: Shakespear called it "Much Ado About Nothing"
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Shakespear knew about Gatorade?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Trino wrote: Is is not a joke. did you go to the link?
    Carbonated pop always cures my stomach upsets. BTW
    same concept as ENO I suspect which is fruit salt. Extremely bubbly.
    Correction She was a SMART peroxide blond.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    My comment was on the idea of taking in oxygen through the stomach. And the
    even more absurd idea that the oxygen in CO2 is what makes you feel better
    when you drink it. She WAS a dumb peroxice blonde.

    I am NOT disputing the fact that carbonated drinks can help settle an upset
    stomach.

    Quoted message said:
  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    He makes sense. Gatorade or Powerade is really not all that expensive,
    especially if you pick it up in the supermarket (as opposed to a
    convenient store) and water it down. This seems like the kind of stuff
    that if you start splitting hairs as to what's best to drink, you never
    stop splitting hairs. If you're thirsty, drink something: water,
    Kool-Aid, Gatorade, juice, whatever. Whatever satisfies your mouth and
    keeps you going.

    Double or Triple shot of expresso, three teaspoons of sugar fill with
    water in a 1 liter Glacier "Smart Water" bottle, ; fits right in the
    cage.

  14. "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "gds" wrote: Shakespear called it "Much Ado About Nothing"
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Shakespear knew about Gatorade?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Trino wrote: Is is not a joke. did you go to the link?
    Carbonated pop always cures my stomach upsets. BTW
    same concept as ENO I suspect which is fruit salt. Extremely bubbly.
    Correction She was a SMART peroxide blond.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    My comment was on the idea of taking in oxygen through the stomach. And
    the even more absurd idea that the oxygen in CO2 is what makes you feel
    better when you drink it. She WAS a dumb peroxice blonde.

    I am NOT disputing the fact that carbonated drinks can help settle an
    upset stomach.

    Quoted message said:



    Most pop is carbonated so she still did the right thing whether she knows it
    or not. Arguing about it is dumb.
    O2 drinks is what the link was for. I did not make it up.

  15. "R Brickston" <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    He makes sense. Gatorade or Powerade is really not all that expensive,
    especially if you pick it up in the supermarket (as opposed to a
    convenient store) and water it down. This seems like the kind of stuff
    that if you start splitting hairs as to what's best to drink, you never
    stop splitting hairs. If you're thirsty, drink something: water,
    Kool-Aid, Gatorade, juice, whatever. Whatever satisfies your mouth and
    keeps you going.

    Double or Triple shot of expresso, three teaspoons of sugar fill with
    water in a 1 liter Glacier "Smart Water" bottle, ; fits right in the
    cage.

    Does adding salt make that taste better? Good thing is expresso has little
    caffeine. Salt would help your ride.
    I always drink dark coffee. and as much fair trade as I can buy
    Premium idea!

  16. "trino" wrote: (clip) Arguing about it is dumb. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I guess so, so I'll quit. Are you too dumb to do the same thing?

  17. "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:56:52 -0400, trino <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Leo Lichtman wrote:
    > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    > This is a joke, right? How are you supposed to absorb oxygen through
    > the
    > stomach? Yet, I can give you one that is even more ridiculous. I
    > knew a
    > mother who would give her children carbonated drinks when they were
    > sick,
    > on
    > the theory that the CO2 provided them with needed oxygen. But, she
    > was a
    > dumb peroxide blonde.

    The whole idea is pretty much a joke. If someone doesn't like
    Gatorade, or any other branded product, that's fine with me. But lot's
    of folks do like it. As to making a "cheap" alternative that is the
    joke part. How much can you save? I ride every day in the southern
    Arizona desert. So, it is pretty warm. I use 2-3 large cans of powdered
    Gatorade a year. I'm going to be hard pressed to save much on my total
    cost of ~$50 per year to support 5-6000 miles of riding as that comes
    out to less than $.25 per ride and less than $.01 per mile.

    It's the club coffee break after the ride that is expensive ;-)

    Well, I do not want to pay .10 for sugar and salt period.
    Gatorade has limited flavors too which is the point here also.

    I also use my own drinks. I support you, even if Gatorade is cheap. And,
    I used to ride (though not every day) in the southern and mid AZ desert
    (thankfully, I moved from there).

    --
    Bob in CT

    I make my own version too...mostly because I think the standard Gatorade is
    woefully deficient in electrolytes. From my research on the subject, even
    full strength Gatorade doesn't have enough sodium, and it has almost no
    potassium and no magnesium or calcium at all (all 4 of these have been
    implicated in cramping issues).

    ~_-*
    ....G/ \G
    http://www.CycliStats.com
    CycliStats - Software for Cyclists

  18. In article <a_tvg.214434$IK3.36307@pd7tw1no>,

    trino said:

    popcorn same content as energy bar,

    I wonder how dried pitted dates compare to energy bars?

    During these hot summer days I'm appreciating Mediterranean-type
    foods, especially fruits -- dates, figs, pomegranate (juice).
    I gotta find a source for lots of Moro oranges, so I can get
    some for juicing, some for just plain eatin'.

    Olives are lovely too, for apres-ride.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  19. I'm not touting this as any sort of power drink but my drink is a mix of
    pure unsweetened undiluted cranberry juice, diluted fruit juice of the
    frozen concentrate variety.

    I make up two 1.5 litre bottles [plus a 2 litre if I'm really going for a
    long long haul] I fill one almost full and the other half full and put them
    into the freezer. Come morning I fill the half full bottle so that by the
    time I finish the first bottle the second is suitably melted. I store them
    in the back pack against my back for added cooling.

    Works for me.

  20. "trino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "trino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    nutritionists can tell you that energy bars and gatorade are merely
    sugar, salt and fibre.
    they would rather have us consuming these for more bang for the buck.
    popcorn same content as energy bar,

    gatorade recipe, 2 litre container
    one kool aid package w/o sugar
    1/2 tsp salt
    1/2 c. sugar
    1 c. juice
    Add to container and then fill with cold filtered water.
    adjust to taste. Alot better for you than gatorade and other energy
    drinks. I water mine down quite alot more.


    I do not know if anyone here gets Street Cents but a few years back they
    did a double blind survey to see what sport drink was the best for energy
    boosting during a workout and the group of teenagers all picked the
    kool-aid.

    And who better to choose what's nutritionally best than teenagers! 😉

    But, let's see what's in powdered Gatorade Frost Glacier Freeze and compare
    ingredient by ingredient.

    Sucrose [sugar]
    Anhydrous dextrose [sugar]
    Citric Acid [if your juice is orange juice, that will have citric acid in
    it]
    Natural Flavors [This is "frost glacier freeze" flavor. What the heck is
    natural "frost glacier freeze" flavor?]
    Salt [salt]
    Sodium Citrate [need chemical help, but would this be some combination of
    the sodium in table salt and citric acid?]
    Monopotassium phosphate [potassium, 30 mg per serving, 1% of daily
    requirements; 1 cup of orange juice will have 450 mg]
    Calcium Silicate, a flow agent [It's a flow agent; label says "not a
    significant source of calcium"]
    Coconut oil [and we all know what a great source of nutrition THAT is!]
    Brominated vegetable oil
    Blue 1 [dye; possibly much the same dye as Kool Aid]

    So, on an ingredient by ingredient basis, your recipe seems to consist of
    pretty much the same stuff.

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