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[ritcho]

Just the FORKS on the Peleton are heavy? What about the rest of the frame? fairly ordinary tube - RSX groupset ain't no lightweight neither . . .

You can get a really nice roadie for $1800 nowadays.

Quite true - the RSX died and was replaced by 9sp Ultegra. The wheels were replaced by homemade Ultegra/32h/CXP33. The saddle and the pedals have been replaced... the frame, seatpost, forks, stem and handlebars are all that is left.

Bear in mind that I bought the machine when I was a bloater (about 90kg/1.75m) and not really into bikes at all. A low-mid range roadie seemed like a good idea. The frame is starting to show a few pits under the paint near the junction of the top and seat tubes (6061 Al), so a year or two more of daily commuting and racing should finish it off.

Then I'll buy a better and lighter bike.

What will I do for excuses then?

Ritch

 

[ritcho]

"ritcho" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> PS. Does CBD stock forks as well? It was pointed out in my one BR
> participation that my particular model has a very heavy fork (1998
> Giant Peleton). I've not noticed 'cos it's my only bike, but I'm sure
> it is responsible for holding me back from moving up to A-grade.
>
>
> --
> ritcho
>

Hi Ritcho,

[snip useful clarifying comments]

I bet it really upsets the some of the other B Graders on their expensive
bikes when you knock them off the podium on your not so expensive steed. ;-)

Geoff

Ha! It does... in a similar way that _I_ was upset when a 16yo flogged us all in B-grade at Heffron Park late last year.

Ritch

 

[Geoff]

"ritcho" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> mfhor Wrote:
>> Just the FORKS on the Peleton are heavy? What about the rest of the
>> frame? fairly ordinary tube - RSX groupset ain't no lightweight neither
>> . . .
>>
>> You can get a really nice roadie for $1800 nowadays.
>
> Quite true - the RSX died and was replaced by 9sp Ultegra. The wheels
> were replaced by homemade Ultegra/32h/CXP33. The saddle and the pedals
> have been replaced... the frame, seatpost, forks, stem and handlebars
> are all that is left.

Sounds a bit like my road bike that started life as an off the self 1999
Avanti Kona an now bears very little in common with the original bike except
for the fact it is still blue..

All that remains of the original bike is the Frame, Fork, 105 STI Levers,
105 Cranks/Bottom bracket, 105 Brake Calipers, 105 Hubs, 105 Front Derailer
and seat post collar.

The CXP23 rims were replaced by CXP33 ones (built on the original hubs)
after being hit by a car.
105 headset was replaced by an Ultegra one.
ITM Mantis Handle Bars - Less Flex than the original ones.
Replaced the Quill stem with a Cinelli Ahead adapter and ITM Road Racing
Stem. (Done at same time as new bars)
105 Rear Derailer replaced by Ultegra one (better bearing mechinism on the
jockey wheels)
SRAM or Ultegra Cassettes now live on the back wheel.
SRAM PC-99 chain (The best chain I have ever used)
ITM Mantis Seatpost replaced the original TranzX one (Better more precise
adjustment)
Currently a Selle Italia SLR Carbon/Ti replaces the various TriMatics and
original Octavia used over the years.
All cables have been replaced.

I also have an Ultegra Front Derailer ready to go the next time I take the
chain off.
The only other thing that needs replacing at the moment are the STIs as they
have not been quite the same since the August Beach Road BR Crash.
Sometimes the right one gets stuck and will not move unless extreme pressure
is applied.

>
> Bear in mind that I bought the machine when I was a bloater (about
> 90kg/1.75m) and not really into bikes at all. A low-mid range roadie
> seemed like a good idea. The frame is starting to show a few pits under
> the paint near the junction of the top and seat tubes (6061 Al), so a
> year or two more of daily commuting and racing should finish it off.

If you are looking to keep it for that long maybe rather than getting a new
Carbon Fibre fork it might be better to have a hunt around your local bike
shops to see if they have a pre loved/old stock one laying around. You'll
be looking for a CF fork with a 1" steel steerer of an adequate length for
cutting/threading to match your frame's steerer tube length as well as the
correct rake to match the geometry of your frame.

This would get rid of a big chunk of the bike's front end weight right now
for a not too large an outlay.
Also did you replace the RSX chainrings when doing the Ultegra upgrade? The
RSX cranks have Steel Chainrings. 105, Ultegra and DA Chainrings are
lightweight alloy. Maybe this is another area where you can reduce the
weight a little bit.

> What will I do for excuses then?

Faster Wheels (Home made in your case) , More CF bits....

Geoff

 

[ritcho]

[snip]

If you are looking to keep it for that long maybe rather than getting a new
Carbon Fibre fork it might be better to have a hunt around your local bike
shops to see if they have a pre loved/old stock one laying around. You'll
be looking for a CF fork with a 1" steel steerer of an adequate length for
cutting/threading to match your frame's steerer tube length as well as the
correct rake to match the geometry of your frame.

This would get rid of a big chunk of the bike's front end weight right now
for a not too large an outlay.
Also did you replace the RSX chainrings when doing the Ultegra upgrade? The
RSX cranks have Steel Chainrings. 105, Ultegra and DA Chainrings are
lightweight alloy. Maybe this is another area where you can reduce the
weight a little bit.

> What will I do for excuses then?

Faster Wheels (Home made in your case) , More CF bits....

Geoff

I tested the waters today with the finance minister regarding the prospect of getting a new bike. I tried to convince her that the pitting in the top tube is corrosion that will ultimately result in frame failure. I think I'll only get another year out of it...

The RSX chainrings were junked with the shift to Ultegra (everything was changed). The effect of the upgrade was obvious - shifting became very precise and the bike weighed less... it felt like a new bike (it ought to - the upgrade cost as much as the original whole bike).

The bits are only a year old, so a new frame/fork/stem/handlebar/seatpost should finish off the old bike and give hard-rubbish scavengers something to pinch from the front lawn.

Ritch

 

[mfhor]

I tested the waters today with the finance minister regarding the prospect of getting a new bike. I tried to convince her that the pitting in the top tube is corrosion that will ultimately result in frame failure. I think I'll only get another year out of it...

The RSX chainrings were junked with the shift to Ultegra (everything was changed). The effect of the upgrade was obvious - shifting became very precise and the bike weighed less... it felt like a new bike (it ought to - the upgrade cost as much as the original whole bike).

The bits are only a year old, so a new frame/fork/stem/handlebar/seatpost should finish off the old bike and give hard-rubbish scavengers something to pinch from the front lawn.

Ritch

Why not make it into a pub/milkbar bike? Just sling any old bits you can find onto it, and let it live out it's retirement as a much-loved shitter which you don't mind flinging against the wall, leaving out in the rain, and not much worried if someone nicks it? I ride mine to the movies, an obvious place to target for thieves, but not with this bike. The only person it's worth anything to is me.

MH

 

[ritcho]

Why not make it into a pub/milkbar bike? Just sling any old bits you can find onto it, and let it live out it's retirement as a much-loved shitter which you don't mind flinging against the wall, leaving out in the rain, and not much worried if someone nicks it? I ride mine to the movies, an obvious place to target for thieves, but not with this bike. The only person it's worth anything to is me.

MH

It may yet prove to be cheaper to do just that... in about a year's time.

Ritch

 

[powinc]

Why bother searching hi & low to save $50. Support your local LBS.

And besides I wouldn't buy a Giant anyway.

powinc

 

[Roadie_scum]

Why bother searching hi & low to save $50. Support your local LBS.

And besides I wouldn't buy a Giant anyway.

powinc

Why would you not buy a Giant? I don't ride one, nor do I sell them, but they are fine bikes. Good componentry for the money and good quality control. A few years ago on some of the newer models (eg early alloy TCRs) there were some problems. These days they are great. Better than forking out for a lie (this bike was made in Italy...)

 

[nitrous]

Why would you not buy a Giant? I don't ride one, nor do I sell them, but they are fine bikes. Good componentry for the money and good quality control. A few years ago on some of the newer models (eg early alloy TCRs) there were some problems. These days they are great. Better than forking out for a lie (this bike was made in Italy...)

Couldn't agree more. When I first started looking I said I wouldn't buy a Giant. Well, 4 months, multiple test rides, too much research and an angry wife later, I have just purchased a TCR Euro. What can I say about it???

I LOVE IT!

Great componentry, very good quality frame (carbon fibre monocoque for the same price as a low end euro alloy, decent wheels (better than the 540's that you'd get on an Avanti, Specialised, Orbea, DBR etc....

Certainly does the job, rides beautifully, absorbs road chatter and is very stiff and responsive. Can't find a negative actually.

What do you ride powinc? Why is it so much better than a Giant? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

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[NickZX6R]

nitrous wrote:
> Roadie_scum Wrote:
>
>>Why would you not buy a Giant? I don't ride one, nor do I sell them, but
>>they are fine bikes. Good componentry for the money and good quality
>>control. A few years ago on some of the newer models (eg early alloy
>>TCRs) there were some problems. These days they are great. Better than
>>forking out for a lie (this bike was made in Italy...)
>
> Couldn't agree more. When I first started looking I said I wouldn't
> buy a Giant. Well, 4 months, multiple test rides, too much research and
> an angry wife later, I have just purchased a TCR Euro. What can I say
> about it???
>
> I LOVE IT!
>
> Great componentry, very good quality frame (carbon fibre monocoque for
> the same price as a low end euro alloy, decent wheels (better than the
> 540's that you'd get on an Avanti, Specialised, Orbea, DBR etc....
>
> Certainly does the job, rides beautifully, absorbs road chatter and is
> very stiff and responsive. Can't find a negative actually.
>
> What do you ride powinc? Why is it so much better than a Giant? I'd be
> interested to hear your thoughts.
>
> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1616262", true);
>
>

Well I'll go out on a limb here.

I reckon Giant road bikes look ****. It's not personal, I just don't
like compact road frames with sloping top tubes.

But then when it comes to aesthetics, I'm a retro grouch who's only
interested in lugged brazed steel

--
Nick

 

[hippy]

"NickZX6R" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I reckon Giant road bikes look ****. It's not personal, I just don't
> like compact road frames with sloping top tubes.
>
> But then when it comes to aesthetics, I'm a retro grouch who's only
> interested in lugged brazed steel

So you don't want that carbon fork?

hippy
- taking a stab you DO have a carbon fork on da black beast?

 

[flyingdutch]

So you don't want that carbon fork?

hippy
- taking a stab you DO have a carbon fork on da black beast?

haha
sprung baaaad. NickZ

F "still-lervs-that-black-on-black-look-tho" D

 

[Andrew Morris]

Pretty much what I ended up doing... we bought the bike from Freedom
Machine, where I have a long history of buying bikes...

They looked after us very well, and she's very happy with her new bike...



"powinc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Why bother searching hi & low to save $50. Support your local LBS.
>
> And besides I wouldn't buy a Giant anyway.
>
> powinc
>
>
> --
> powinc
>

 

[NickZX6R]

hippy wrote:
> "NickZX6R" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I reckon Giant road bikes look ****. It's not personal, I just don't
>>like compact road frames with sloping top tubes.
>>
>>But then when it comes to aesthetics, I'm a retro grouch who's only
>>interested in lugged brazed steel
>
>
> So you don't want that carbon fork?
>
> hippy
> - taking a stab you DO have a carbon fork on da black beast?
>
>

hehehe...I admit it.

It's got a carbon seat post and carbon headset spacers too (only because
the spacers were given to me). Ask FD, he knows it looks cool. Actually,
the frame isn't lugged either - it's TIG'd 853 But that's because the
budget couldn't stretch to a lugged frame, and not that many
framebuilders will do it anyway.

But it did replace a beautiful lugged Dedacciai Bianchi.

And just to try and slow down the hole I'm digging, I'll have a new
(old) lugged Columbus SL frame arriving next week, with absolutely no
carboplastic bits on it at all

You'll be pleased to know the other two bikes are both Taiwanese-made
aluminium.

--
Nick

 

[NickZX6R]

flyingdutch wrote:
> hippy Wrote:
>
>>
>>So you don't want that carbon fork?
>>
>>hippy
>>- taking a stab you DO have a carbon fork on da black beast?
>
>
> haha
> sprung baaaad. NickZ
>
> F "still-lervs-that-black-on-black-look-tho" D
>
>

Ahhh you're just jealous

"Even the white bits are black".

--
Nick

 

[flyingdutch]

Ahhh you're just jealous

"Even the white bits are black".

--
Nick

maybe
still every person and their Dog(ma) is into black! so there

My green is noice just cos its so unique.
No more black, or celeste green.
Aaaawwww sheeeet. I jsut remembered my fixie is (runs from room screaming) BLUE! Collins St here i comes

PS I got a loverly chromed straight-bladed fork if your in need for that SL frame (and Campag Veloce 8spd bits with wheels)

 

[NickZX6R]

flyingdutch wrote:
> NickZX6R Wrote:
>
>>Ahhh you're just jealous
>>
>>"Even the white bits are black".
>>
>>--
>>Nick
>
>
> maybe
> still every person and their Dog(ma) is into black! so there
>
> My green is noice just cos its so unique.
> No more black, or celeste green.
> Aaaawwww sheeeet. I jsut remembered my fixie is (runs from room
> screaming) BLUE! Collins St here i comes
>
> PS I got a loverly chromed straight-bladed fork if your in need for
> that SL frame (and Campag Veloce 8spd bits with wheels)
>
>

I could use some cranks, but they'd need to be no longer than 170mm I
think.

Front wheel is taken care of. All I really need is a rear track wheel,
which is proving to be elusive or expensive. I was hoping to build my
own rear wheel but it's going to cost a fair bit more than I thought.

--
Nick