try a hard shell seat from Turner, IMHO, the most comfortable seat i've used, hard shell that
is, and it is designed to be more upright with out the slipping, feeling. about 130.00 with pad
I believe.
Jude T. McGloin wrote:
> Rorschandt, IMO you are correct about the Swanson and Optima seats being quite similar. These
> seats as well as the M5 are designed for 25/30 degrees of recline. Like you I have found that
> using these seats in the more upright position causes butt slip and in the long run discomfort
> from the front lip digging into your lower butt or upper thigh area. I use the open cell foam on
> the M5 Its great, for me anyway. The coarseness has no effect on me and a Tee Shirt is all the
> protection you need as another poster pointed out. Last year, I said to a Street Machine rider
> that I like his seat cover. It was August and he turned around to show me the back of his sopping
> wet jersey, his complaint was its always wet and slippery. I am a big fan of the Euro seats. I
> find them to be quite comfortable. I have experience with many of the current foam based and
> slung seats. I prefer the hard-shell. My touring version of the STRADA will sport the standard
> Bacchetta recurve seat because of the underseat pannier mounting option, However, making a
> mounting system for an underseat system for the hard-shells is not really a big deal. All in all
> I think that the euro seat will be an ever increasing presence in the US market. Possibly some
> will be designed with a more upright rider in mind. However, IMO the reclined position
> distributes the weight and can for many have a virtually recumbent buttless result. But.... as
> always trial and error seems to be the way that we find this out...and this can be expensive.
> Lets hope that the prices come down.
>
> Jude....///Bacchetta AERO St. Michaels and Tilghman Island.. Maryland Wheel Doctor Cycle and
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>>"Mikael Seierup" <
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>>>"Joshua Goldberg" skrev ...
>>>
>>>>Not an M5, but the Optima Hard-shells are close in design and the "porous open cell" foam UR
>>>>talking about needs to be covered...the foam is as soft to the skin as steel wool.
>>>
>>>A T-shirt is all you need to be comfortable on the foam unless you absolutely want to parade your
>>>gorillatie.
>>>
>>>
http://www.zephyr.nl/shop/enter.html ("Zittings en kussens" in left menu)
>>>
>>>Has the foam in 30 x 100 cm pieces which is big enough for the HP-Velotechnik seat that I think
>>>is the widest one around. (28 cm) I paid the 20 euro listed plus 5 euro postage to Denmark.
>>>
>>>He also sells seats for 79 euro but only small and medium if you want fiberglass. Payment via
>>>Pay-Pal or bank transfer.
>>>
>>>Regards Mikael
>>>
>>
>>I haven't tried the M5 seat, but I have had the HP Velo and Swanson seats. The fit is almost
>>identical, with the Swanson having a bit of cupping action at the lumbar. I actually like the fit
>>of the Swanson a bit better than the HP seat. The Swanson seat is supposed to have been based upon
>>the Optima seat. I would trade my Swanson for an Optima Trike seat, IF what I have read is true:
>>The Optima trike seat has a wider base. Garrie Hill sells (sold?)the foam in the U.S. by square
>>foot, and also built some carbon shells. My problem with hardshells is that I am trying to use
>>them in a more upright position than perhaps for which they were designed, it feels like I'm going
>>to slide off the front edge of the seat. That feeling is gradually reduced the further back it is
>>reclined.
>>
>>rorschandt
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