Cipo gets his wish

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  1. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be Petacchi and McEwen. I'm not really
    thinking of the possibility of getting beaten. But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather get beaten
    by Petacchi because he's a great athlete and a great person."

    Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise his hands. Looked like Graeme
    Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's Christmas list.
     
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  2. Dave

    Dave Guest

    "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > "I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be Petacchi and McEwen. I'm not
    > really thinking of the possibility of getting beaten. But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather
    > get beaten by Petacchi because he's a great athlete and a great person."
    >
    > Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise his hands. Looked like Graeme
    > Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's Christmas list.
    >

    Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about 95% today? Could he have
    been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work? Dave
     
  3. Me

    Me Guest

    nah i'm not buyin it, the pink jersey, 41 stage wins, points lead etc all in one race with the
    rainbow on his back.... he wanted it but Pettachi did a better job of finishing.. at least he didn't
    lose it to Robbie Mc...

    Dave wrote:
    > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>"I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be Petacchi and McEwen. I'm not
    >>really thinking of the possibility of getting beaten. But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather
    >>get beaten by Petacchi because he's a great athlete and a great person."
    >>
    >>Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise his hands. Looked like Graeme
    >>Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's Christmas list.
    >>
    >
    >
    > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about 95% today? Could he have
    > been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work? Dave
     
  4. "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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    > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > > "I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be
    Petacchi
    > > and McEwen. I'm not really thinking of the possibility of getting
    beaten.
    > > But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather get beaten by Petacchi
    because
    > > he's a great athlete and a great person."
    > >
    > > Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise his hands. Looked like Graeme
    > > Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's Christmas
    list.
    > >
    >
    > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about
    95% today? Could he have
    > been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work?

    I can't see him giving away any wins until he beats Binda's record.
     
  5. Dave

    Dave Guest

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > > "I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be
    > Petacchi
    > > > and McEwen. I'm not really thinking of the possibility of getting
    > beaten.
    > > > But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather get beaten by Petacchi
    > because
    > > > he's a great athlete and a great person."
    > > >
    > > > Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise his hands. Looked like
    > > > Graeme Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's Christmas
    > list.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about
    > 95% today? Could he have
    > > been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work?
    >
    >
    > I can't see him giving away any wins until he beats Binda's record.

    I can..even though he was in a good spot, the finish didn't suit him today, plenty of flat stages
    left, I think by his statement in cyclingnews.com the other day he gave us a glimpse of today's
    stage Dave
     
  6. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about
    95% today?

    I'm thinking that it was just you.

    That look on Cipo's face as Petacchi came around him wasn't the look of someone who didn't care. I
    think the zebra train left him a bit early, maybe 150m short of the line (hard to tell from the
    camera angle, but it seemed like a longer distance than Cipo usually likes). His train had to work
    harder than usual, I think -- the final approach was kinda technical. I was surprised to see one of
    the Domina riders who'd already peeled off have to come back into the lead.
     
  7. "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote
    > >
    > > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at about
    > 95% today?
    >
    > I'm thinking that it was just you.
    >
    > That look on Cipo's face as Petacchi came around him wasn't the look of someone who didn't care. I
    > think the zebra train left him a bit early,
    maybe
    > 150m short of the line (hard to tell from the camera angle, but it seemed like a longer distance
    > than Cipo usually likes). His train had to work harder than usual, I think -- the final approach
    > was kinda technical. I
    was
    > surprised to see one of the Domina riders who'd already peeled off have to come back into
    > the lead.

    A technical finish is easier to control if the team knows how to chop the corners (inside
    to outside).

    I think a straight finish is harder to control. Then again, over on this side of the ocean, we're
    basically crit scum.
     
  8. "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > "I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be
    > > Petacchi
    > > > > and McEwen. I'm not really thinking of the possibility of getting
    > > beaten.
    > > > > But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather get beaten by Petacchi
    > > because
    > > > > he's a great athlete and a great person."
    > > > >
    > > > > Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise
    his
    > > > > hands. Looked like Graeme Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's
    Christmas
    > > list.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at
    about
    > > 95% today? Could he have
    > > > been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work?
    > >
    > >
    > > I can't see him giving away any wins until he beats Binda's record.
    >
    > I can..even though he was in a good spot, the finish didn't suit him
    today, plenty of flat stages
    > left, I think by his statement in cyclingnews.com the other day he gave us
    a glimpse of today's
    > stage

    He didn't give it away, he got beat.

    It doesn't make sense for him to give anything away until he gets the 42nd stage win. Then he can
    relax. He's 36 years old - there aren't an infinite number of chances left.
     
  9. Robert Chung

    Robert Chung Guest

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote
    > A technical finish is easier to control if the team knows how to chop the corners (inside to
    > outside).

    Right, and last year A&S did that very well but yesterday the Domina train couldn't scrape the
    contenders off in the corners. It was interesting seeing how many guys were left at the end trying
    to fight for Cipo's wheel. That's when Brown and McEwen were leaning on each other. Even so, I
    thought Cipo was going to win. Petacchi surprised me.
     
  10. Davide Tosi

    Davide Tosi Guest

    "Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I was surprised to see one of the Domina riders who'd already peeled off have to come back into
    >the lead.

    Even more meaningful was the fact that the rider was Mario Scirea, Cipo's most faithful lieutenant.
     
  11. Me

    Me Guest

    add to this the stage profiles stat climbing all this week and he may not get another shot till
    week two....

    Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
    > "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >
    > message
    >
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >>>"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>>>"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>>>>"I think that my two major rivals in the sprints are going to be
    >>>
    >>>Petacchi
    >>>
    >>>>>and McEwen. I'm not really thinking of the possibility of getting
    >>>
    >>>beaten.
    >>>
    >>>>>But if I'm going to get beaten, I'd rather get beaten by Petacchi
    >>>
    >>>because
    >>>
    >>>>>he's a great athlete and a great person."
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Henry will want to know that Petacchi had enough of a gap to raise
    >
    > his
    >
    >>>>>hands. Looked like Graeme Brown won't be on Robbie McEwen's
    >
    > Christmas
    >
    >>>list.
    >>>
    >>>>Was it just me or did it look to anyone else that Cipo sprinted at
    >
    > about
    >
    >>>95% today? Could he have
    >>>
    >>>>been paying Pettachi back for his Worlds work?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>I can't see him giving away any wins until he beats Binda's record.
    >>
    >>I can..even though he was in a good spot, the finish didn't suit him
    >
    > today, plenty of flat stages
    >
    >>left, I think by his statement in cyclingnews.com the other day he gave us
    >
    > a glimpse of today's
    >
    >>stage
    >
    >
    >
    > He didn't give it away, he got beat.
    >
    > It doesn't make sense for him to give anything away until he gets the 42nd stage win. Then he can
    > relax. He's 36 years old - there aren't an infinite number of chances left.
     
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