coca -cola

What I find frustrating is the tendency, many years old now,
to offer bottled water at a profit in places where I
previously could have gotten tap water. I eat at an
inexpensive Brazillian cafeteria downtown. The place is
perfect for lunch since I can serve myself the exact portion
size I want, and they have a balanced meal including a few
sorts of vegetables every day. The price is right so I
shouldn't be complaining, but I can't get tap water there. I
pay a ridiculously low price for the meal ($4.00) and then a
buck for water to go with it. For another example, I used to
visit New York city 25 years ago. On a hot day, I could stop
in most businesses, ask for water and get it. Store owners
were kind enough to hand out water to thirsty tourists. Now
I feel compelled to buy it in a bottle. Luckily I can afford
it, but the tightwad in me rebels.

--Lia

While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, Julia Altshuler of Comcast

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What I find frustrating is the tendency, many years old
now, to offer bottled water at a profit in places where I
previously could have gotten tap water. I eat at an
inexpensive Brazillian cafeteria downtown. The place is
perfect for lunch since I can serve myself the exact
portion size I want, and they have a balanced meal
including a few sorts of vegetables every day. The price is
right so I shouldn't be complaining, but I can't get tap
water there. I pay a ridiculously low price for the meal
($4.00) and then a buck for water to go with it. For
another example, I used to visit New York city 25 years
ago. On a hot day, I could stop in most businesses, ask for
water and get it. Store owners were kind enough to hand out
water to thirsty tourists. Now I feel compelled to buy it
in a bottle. Luckily I can afford it, but the tightwad in
me rebels.

That I can understand. I'd also rather have plain tap-water,
when I can get it. I don't like having to pay a lot for
bottled water, but if it's water I want, and bottled water
is the only kind I can get - I buy it, even if I don't like
having to, either. I think we agree entirely on this.
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MEow said:

That I can understand. I'd also rather have plain tap-
water, when I can get it. I don't like having to pay a
lot for bottled water, but if it's water I want, and
bottled water is the only kind I can get - I buy it, even
if I don't like having to, either. I think we agree
entirely on this.

Yes. Why should I pay $1.00 for a 7-up that I don't want
when I can pay $1.00 for a bottle of water that I do want?
Because it bothers me, that's why! I'm a tightwad! Paying
for water, especially in New York where the tap water tastes
good, rubs me wrong, but I got used to it.

--Lia

In article <[email hidden]>,

Saerah said:

considering that aspartame is in all the diet soda i've
seen, i don't think that they give a [censored] unless they get
caught putting something that doesnt have a lobby to back
it up in soda.

IIRC, Pepsi's One uses Splenda (sucralose).

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Julia Altshuler said:

What I find frustrating is the tendency, many years old
now, to offer bottled wate

Similarly, I find it irksome when I go somewhere (either an
expensive or a "trendy" place, ask for water, and they ask
me which brand I would prefer. When I reply "just tap
water," they usually get an annoyed look on their face.

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Scott said:

Similarly, I find it irksome when I go somewhere (either
an expensive or a "trendy" place, ask for water, and they
ask me which brand I would prefer. When I reply "just tap
water," they usually get an annoyed look on their face.

I know. When asked what I'd like to drink in a restaurant, I
usually ask for plain tap water with no ice. You'd think I'd
asked for roast pureed camel from the looks I get. They
invariably get it wrong. I start asking for plain tap water,
with no ice, at room temperature, straight from the faucet,
lemon optional, please I can't stand the cold on my teeth,
but don't boil it and I'm not paying for tea, etc. They
still get it wrong. Maybe I'll ask for roast pureed camel.

--Lia

In article <xlZ6c.48701$SR1.86037@attbi_s04>,

Julia Altshuler said:

Yes. Why should I pay $1.00 for a 7-up that I don't want
when I can pay $1.00 for a bottle of water that I do want?
Because it bothers me, that's why! I'm a tightwad! Paying
for water, especially in New York where the tap water
tastes good, rubs me wrong, but I got used to it.

There's a bit of cruel irony here. My sister-in-law is very
much one of the "oh, only bottled water will do. Drinking
tap water? What an odd idea!!"

She and my brother raised their son (now 5-1/2) with only
bottled water (also fruit juice; I don't know the milk
situation), and he's had a TON of cavities. Had to be
intubated when he was 2-1/2 (!!) to have 11 cavities filled.
I think there was also a root-canal. He just had some more
work done this past summer.

The dentist believed that a *contributory* factor was that
he'd never had fluoridated tap water.

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Scott said:

There's a bit of cruel irony here. My sister-in-law is
very much one of the "oh, only bottled water will do.
Drinking tap water? What an odd idea!!"

She and my brother raised their son (now 5-1/2) with only
bottled water (also fruit juice; I don't know the milk
situation), and he's had a TON of cavities. Had to be
intubated when he was 2-1/2 (!!) to have 11 cavities
filled. I think there was also a root-canal. He just had
some more work done this past summer.

The dentist believed that a *contributory* factor was that
he'd never had fluoridated tap water.

I love that story. I don't know how to respond; I just love
it. Cruel irony or poetic justice. And I'm not normally one
to wish cavities on a 3 year old.

A friend lives in an area where the water's not fluoridated.
Her dentist gave her flouride tablets to put in her
daughters' water. It was no big deal; she never mentioned
it, but I noticed and asked when I was out there visiting. I
don't know anything more about how it worked.

--Lia

Never anonymous Bud said:

While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', Steve Wertz
<[email hidden]> scribbled:

Quoted message said:

Which mean you won't get cancer until later - when it's
too late to positively blame Coca-Cola.

Before you start sticking your foot in your mouth, you
REALLY need to do some research.

I'm simply using the information contained in the article:

"Coca-Cola has advised the agency that they are
immediately withdrawing the product from sale. This is a
sensible measure by the company as bromate is a chemical
that could cause an increased cancer risk as a result of
long-term exposure, although there is no immediate risk to
public health."

Obviously you are an expert in this field and I bow to your
superior knowledge of bromates and bromides, [censored].

-sw

Julia Altshuler said:

Levelwave© said:

To save me the trouble of reading the article - why is it
only being recalled in the UK? Do they purify Dasani
differently here in the states?

Yes. Different laws regarding standards for bottled water.

They have a completely different water source over there
(tap-water from Thames). So it probably goes though a
different process.

-sw

(paula) said:

not a food, but this is after all the best group. A couple
of months ago i heard/read of a new drink brought out by
the coke firm.Tonight on the news i heard that over half a
million bottles of it has been removed from the
supermarket/shop shelves because one of the ingredients
could be a potential health risk.Now i wonder why such a
big concern as coca cola would make such a blunder as to
promote something that is not 100% safe, surely they try
and test, and try and test new products.I know the
ingredient begins with the letter B but i cannot remember
the name of the drink.( it may have been a "water"😉 Have
any of you in the USA drank of this liquid? and are you
still feeling o.k., Wonder if there are any impendind
lawsuits?.

Here's a link to the full story...

guardian.co.uk0,3604,11741Open ↗
27,00.html

Regards, Tracy R.

in article [email hidden], Virginia Tadrzynski
at [email hidden] wrote on 3/19/04 10:34 PM:

Quoted message said:

what is the general consensus of the new diet coke with
lime? my daughter said it tastes like pine cleaner (I
swear I never gave her pine cleaner to drink, honest). I
tried it and it tasted the way turpentine smells to me.
Any other comments? -Ginny

Evil.
Vile.Disgusting.

I tried it. I hate diet Coke, I don't know why I tried it,
the only diet coke product I can honestly say I like is the
diet vanilla coke. But I tried
it. They were sampling at the grocery store. I took a sip.
Made a face. Kinda like the face on that cartoon
character on the bottles of household cleaner to let
kids know not to taste it. The demonstrator smiled
meekly at me and said "i agree". I took one more sip,
just to make sure. Vile. Evil, Disgusting. I made
another face. I refused to take the last sip.

I do not like their lemon diet coke either. It's too "Fake"
tasting. Tastes the way lemon pledge smells.

If I only have Coke products to choose from, I take coca
cola, not diet coke. I did that just today, in fact.

Scott wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, "Saerah"

Quoted message said:

considering that aspartame is in all the diet soda i've
seen, i don't

think

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that they give a [censored] unless they get caught putting
something that

doesnt

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have a lobby to back it up in soda.

IIRC, Pepsi's One uses Splenda (sucralose).

still tastes like [censored] 🙁

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing
swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive
power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony."

Quoted message said:

THe stiff in those bottles is the same water that comes
out of your tap, and in some cases, worse because it
stagnates, not to mention all the chemicals it absorbs
from the plastic bottle.

This depends on the type of water. I buy jugs of distilled
water. It may start out as tap water, but distillation
removes most impurities. I know distillation is not perfect,
but the tap water here tastes like ass. Seriously. I may as
well drink liquid iron, it would probably be more pure,
although it would burn on the way down...

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Saerah said:

Scott wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, "Saerah"

Quoted message said:

considering that aspartame is in all the diet soda i've
seen, i don't think that they give a [censored] unless they
get caught putting something that doesnt have a lobby to
back it up in soda.

IIRC, Pepsi's One uses Splenda (sucralose).

still tastes like [censored] 🙁

--
Saerah

You'd be the expert on that taste?

Never anonymous Bud said:

While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Saerah"
<[email hidden]> scribbled:

Quoted message said:

isn't conventional white flour treated with bromate?

Yes, and it's a byproduct of the purification process
for water.

What probably happened was a processing glitch that either
failed to remove the bromate, or removed too little.

I'm sure it will be fixed easily. And I'm ALSO sure a
bunch of loonies will go frantic needlessly.

To reply by email, remove the XYZ.

The company said the level of bromate increased when they
increased the level of calcium. Bromates are toxic and
Dasani is just tap water anyway.

BOB wrote in message
<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Saerah said:

Scott wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, "Saerah"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

> considering that aspartame is in all the diet soda i've
> seen, i don't

think

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> that they give a [censored] unless they get caught putting
> something that

doesnt

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> have a lobby to back it up in soda.

IIRC, Pepsi's One uses Splenda (sucralose).

still tastes like [censored] 🙁

--
Saerah

You'd be the expert on that taste?

oh man, you got me. total burn.

whatever.

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing
swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive
power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony."

Julia Altshuler said:

What I find frustrating is the tendency, many years old
now, to offer bottled water at a profit in places where I
previously could have gotten tap water. I eat at an
inexpensive Brazillian cafeteria downtown. The place is
perfect for lunch since I can serve myself the exact
portion size I want, and they have a balanced meal
including a few sorts of vegetables every day. The price is
right so I shouldn't be complaining, but I can't get tap
water there. I pay a ridiculously low price for the meal
($4.00) and then a buck for water to go with it. For
another example, I used to visit New York city 25 years
ago. On a hot day, I could stop in most businesses, ask for
water and get it. Store owners were kind enough to hand out
water to thirsty tourists. Now I feel compelled to buy it
in a bottle. Luckily I can afford it, but the tightwad in
me rebels.

--Lia

I went to a county fair in Wisconsin several years ago.
There were drinking fountains, but they were shut off. It
was a very hot summer day, and I was thirsty. I was short on
cash that day, and had to choose between water or food.
Plus, I refused to pay $2.50 for a 16oz bottle of water. I
went to the cow barn, and got a drink from the faucet where
they water the cows. I had some guy tell me that was not
suited for human drinking ([censored]).

When I got home, I wrote to the fair board, and sent a
complaint. I told them that the drinking fountains were shut
off, and I was unwilling to pay $2.50 for water in a bottle,
and so I got a drink from the cattle barn, and some guy was
complaining.

They sent me a letter and said they would take care of this.
But never mentioned anything about the cattle faucets. The
next year the drinking fountains worked...

One just has to complain, because I believe there is a law
that requires proper toilet facilities, and access to water
at public events.

Quoted message said:

I went to a county fair in Wisconsin several years ago.
There were drinking fountains, but they were shut off. It
was a very hot summer day, and I was thirsty.

I can top that. My brother was in a fund-raising race, 5 or
10 miles I think, in South Florida. It was a nice big event
with the streets closed off and lots of onlookers and both
serious and hobbyist runners. They SOLD water to the
participants.

--Lia

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Julia Altshuler said:

I can top that. My brother was in a fund-raising race, 5
or 10 miles I think, in South Florida. It was a nice big
event with the streets closed off and lots of onlookers
and both serious and hobbyist runners. They SOLD water to
the participants.

There's nothing like a captive audience.

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