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Donga
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Terry Collins
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Kim wrote:
> Anybody tried any colostrum based products?
> What did you think?
Is this another dairy waste product?
If so, selling it is probably a profitable option to paying disposal costs
> Anybody tried any colostrum based products?
> What did you think?
Is this another dairy waste product?
If so, selling it is probably a profitable option to paying disposal costs
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Donga
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Wikipedia:
Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
giving birth.
Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
quantity.
Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
giving birth.
Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
quantity.
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Bean Long
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SteveA wrote:
> Donga Wrote:
>> Wikipedia:
>> Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
>> produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
>> giving birth.
>>
>> Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
>> high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
>> quantity.
>
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
>
> SteveA
>
>
Not that I know of but even if there's a market for the stuff that's not
a convincing reason for my wife and I to have another child! The
colostrum only lasts for a week or so but the kids hang around for years!
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Bean "there done that"
Remove "yourfinger" before replying
> Donga Wrote:
>> Wikipedia:
>> Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
>> produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
>> giving birth.
>>
>> Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
>> high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
>> quantity.
>
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
>
> SteveA
>
>
Not that I know of but even if there's a market for the stuff that's not
a convincing reason for my wife and I to have another child! The
colostrum only lasts for a week or so but the kids hang around for years!
--
Bean "there done that"
Remove "yourfinger" before replying
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MalP
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SteveA wrote:
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
Certainly are :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/colo.html
Bovine, not human.
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
Certainly are :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/colo.html
Bovine, not human.
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Donga
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Now this has got to equal oxygen shots for snakeoil value! You'd have
to be severely deprived nutritionally or immunocompromised, and in
either case you'd be better off in bed with some good soup.
Suckers literally - on the teat!
Donga
to be severely deprived nutritionally or immunocompromised, and in
either case you'd be better off in bed with some good soup.
Suckers literally - on the teat!
Donga
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Terry Collins
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Donga wrote:
> Wikipedia:
> Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk)
err, yer, I know what it is, agriculture and biology at level one for
the HSC. Not that I believe anything on wikipedia either.
but my general understanding is that milk companies are desperately
seeking "products" they can sell instead of having to pay the disposal
costs of dairy by-products and I was wondering if this was just another
junk product they have come up with.
Seriously lots of and a wide variety of fresh fruit and vegetables does
wonders for everyone. And if you are trying to treat a particular
"medical" problem, then go to the usenet group that specialises in that
problem.
> Wikipedia:
> Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk)
err, yer, I know what it is, agriculture and biology at level one for
the HSC. Not that I believe anything on wikipedia either.
but my general understanding is that milk companies are desperately
seeking "products" they can sell instead of having to pay the disposal
costs of dairy by-products and I was wondering if this was just another
junk product they have come up with.
Seriously lots of and a wide variety of fresh fruit and vegetables does
wonders for everyone. And if you are trying to treat a particular
"medical" problem, then go to the usenet group that specialises in that
problem.
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Stuart Lamble
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On 2006-02-20, Terry Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Seriously lots of and a wide variety of fresh fruit and vegetables does
> wonders for everyone. And if you are trying to treat a particular
> "medical" problem, then go to the usenet group that specialises in that
> problem.
alt.medicine.hypochondriacs?
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the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@" to "usenet".
> Seriously lots of and a wide variety of fresh fruit and vegetables does
> wonders for everyone. And if you are trying to treat a particular
> "medical" problem, then go to the usenet group that specialises in that
> problem.
alt.medicine.hypochondriacs?
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the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@" to "usenet".
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BruceA
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Theo Bekkers
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BruceA wrote:
> I tried it when I was much younger.
> I couldn't walk for about a year after drinking it!
I shat myself.
Theo
> I tried it when I was much younger.
> I couldn't walk for about a year after drinking it!
I shat myself.
Theo
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Graeme Dods
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:34:48 +0800, Theo Bekkers wrote:
> BruceA wrote:
>> I tried it when I was much younger.
>> I couldn't walk for about a year after drinking it!
>
> I shat myself.
I ended up in hospital!*
Graeme
*okay, I was there already, tat just means they must have known it was
strong stuff!
> BruceA wrote:
>> I tried it when I was much younger.
>> I couldn't walk for about a year after drinking it!
>
> I shat myself.
I ended up in hospital!*
Graeme
*okay, I was there already, tat just means they must have known it was
strong stuff!
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Donga
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Theo Bekkers wrote:
> I shat myself.
>
> Theo
After colostrum? Hehehehe. No more details please!
> I shat myself.
>
> Theo
After colostrum? Hehehehe. No more details please!
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Shane Stanley
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Terry Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> my general understanding is that milk companies are desperately
> seeking "products" they can sell instead of having to pay the disposal
> costs of dairy by-products and I was wondering if this was just another
> junk product they have come up with
They actually sell a lot of it fresh to farmers rearing poddy calves and
orphan calves. And it's supposedly the best thing to use when making
kulfi.
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Shane Stanley
<43fa4971$0$1043$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>
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Terry Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> my general understanding is that milk companies are desperately
> seeking "products" they can sell instead of having to pay the disposal
> costs of dairy by-products and I was wondering if this was just another
> junk product they have come up with
They actually sell a lot of it fresh to farmers rearing poddy calves and
orphan calves. And it's supposedly the best thing to use when making
kulfi.
--
Shane Stanley
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Kim
Guest
SteveA wrote:
> Donga Wrote:
>
>>Wikipedia:
>>Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
>>produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
>>giving birth.
>>
>>Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
>>high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
>>quantity.
>
>
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
>
> SteveA
>
>
Yeah, thinking about trying one, I have heard and read good things about
it, only thing is if you have ever seen or smelt colostrum it isnt
particularly appealing, I am going for a flavoured powder.
> Donga Wrote:
>
>>Wikipedia:
>>Colostrum (also known as beestings or first milk) is a form of milk
>>produced by the mammary glands in late pregnancy and the few days after
>>giving birth.
>>
>>Human and bovine colostrum is thick and yellowish. In humans, it has
>>high concentrations of nutrients and immunities, but it is small in
>>quantity.
>
>
> Are there commercial colostrum products available?
>
>
> SteveA
>
>
Yeah, thinking about trying one, I have heard and read good things about
it, only thing is if you have ever seen or smelt colostrum it isnt
particularly appealing, I am going for a flavoured powder.
K
Kim
Guest
Kim wrote:
> Anybody tried any colostrum based products?
> What did you think?
Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2002 Jul;34(7):1184-8. Related Articles, Links
Click here to read
Dose effects of oral bovine colostrum on physical work capacity in
cyclists.
Coombes JS, Conacher M, Austen SK, Marshall PA.
School of Human Movement Studies, University of Queensland, St
Lucia, Australia. [email protected]
PURPOSE: There is interest in the potential long-term use of
dietary supplementation with bovine colostrum to enhance exercise
performance. The purpose of the present study was to determine the dose
effects of bovine colostrum on cycling performance. METHODS: Forty-two
competitive cyclists were randomly divided into three groups and
required to consume either 20 g/d bovine colostrum + 40 g whey protein
concentrate (wpc), 60 g of bovine colostrum, or 60 g of wpc (placebo).
Two measures were used to assess performance before (pre-) and after
(post-) an 8-wk supplementation period. The first measure required
subjects to complete two VO2max tests separated by 20 min with the
amount of work completed in the second test used to evaluate
performance. The second performance measure was the time to complete a
work-based time trial following a 2-h cycle at 65% VO2max. Subjects were
required to maintain their regular training and keep a food and training
diary over the study period. RESULTS: After supplementation, the
performance enhancement in Measure One was not statistically
significantly different in the colostrum groups compared to the placebo
group (placebo = 3.4%, 20 g = 4.0%, 60 g = 3.9%; 95% confidence interval
(CI) for differences, +/-1.8%, P > 0.05). In performance Measure Two
subjects in the 20 g and 60 g groups completed the time trial
significantly (P < 0.05) faster post supplement compared to pre
supplement (improvements in performance times, placebo = 37 s, 20 g =
158 s, 60 g = 134 s; 95% CI for differences, 47 s). CONCLUSION: Oral
bovine colostrum supplementation at 20 g or 60 g/d provided a small but
significant improvement in time trial performance in cyclists after a
2-h ride at 65% VO2max.
> Anybody tried any colostrum based products?
> What did you think?
Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2002 Jul;34(7):1184-8. Related Articles, Links
Click here to read
Dose effects of oral bovine colostrum on physical work capacity in
cyclists.
Coombes JS, Conacher M, Austen SK, Marshall PA.
School of Human Movement Studies, University of Queensland, St
Lucia, Australia. [email protected]
PURPOSE: There is interest in the potential long-term use of
dietary supplementation with bovine colostrum to enhance exercise
performance. The purpose of the present study was to determine the dose
effects of bovine colostrum on cycling performance. METHODS: Forty-two
competitive cyclists were randomly divided into three groups and
required to consume either 20 g/d bovine colostrum + 40 g whey protein
concentrate (wpc), 60 g of bovine colostrum, or 60 g of wpc (placebo).
Two measures were used to assess performance before (pre-) and after
(post-) an 8-wk supplementation period. The first measure required
subjects to complete two VO2max tests separated by 20 min with the
amount of work completed in the second test used to evaluate
performance. The second performance measure was the time to complete a
work-based time trial following a 2-h cycle at 65% VO2max. Subjects were
required to maintain their regular training and keep a food and training
diary over the study period. RESULTS: After supplementation, the
performance enhancement in Measure One was not statistically
significantly different in the colostrum groups compared to the placebo
group (placebo = 3.4%, 20 g = 4.0%, 60 g = 3.9%; 95% confidence interval
(CI) for differences, +/-1.8%, P > 0.05). In performance Measure Two
subjects in the 20 g and 60 g groups completed the time trial
significantly (P < 0.05) faster post supplement compared to pre
supplement (improvements in performance times, placebo = 37 s, 20 g =
158 s, 60 g = 134 s; 95% CI for differences, 47 s). CONCLUSION: Oral
bovine colostrum supplementation at 20 g or 60 g/d provided a small but
significant improvement in time trial performance in cyclists after a
2-h ride at 65% VO2max.
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Terry Collins
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Shane Stanley wrote:
> They actually sell a lot of it fresh to farmers rearing poddy calves and
> orphan calves. And it's supposedly the best thing to use when making
> kulfi.
My immediate thought was "Right, must be some great dairy farmer if he
has to buy this stuff in." {
Actually, my wife has oodles more experience with poddy raising than I
ever had. The things farm kids do for money. {.
> They actually sell a lot of it fresh to farmers rearing poddy calves and
> orphan calves. And it's supposedly the best thing to use when making
> kulfi.
My immediate thought was "Right, must be some great dairy farmer if he
has to buy this stuff in." {
Actually, my wife has oodles more experience with poddy raising than I
ever had. The things farm kids do for money. {
.
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Shane Stanley
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Terry Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> My immediate thought was "Right, must be some great dairy farmer if he
> has to buy this stuff in." {
A lot of poddies are raised by people who have no cows of their own.
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Shane Stanley
<43fb2cc0$0$1035$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>
,
Terry Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> My immediate thought was "Right, must be some great dairy farmer if he
> has to buy this stuff in." {
A lot of poddies are raised by people who have no cows of their own.--
Shane Stanley
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Donga
Guest
Kim:
>CONCLUSION: Oral bovine colostrum supplementation at 20 g or 60 g/d provided a small but significant improvement in time trial >performance in cyclists after a 2-h ride at 65% VO2max
Kim
Did the authors venture an explanation for this? Earlier I expressed
unsubstantiated skepticism, but the results are fairly persuasive and
the time difference is quite substantial. However, I would be
interested to know HOW it works (and my skepticism lingers).
Donga
>CONCLUSION: Oral bovine colostrum supplementation at 20 g or 60 g/d provided a small but significant improvement in time trial >performance in cyclists after a 2-h ride at 65% VO2max
Kim
Did the authors venture an explanation for this? Earlier I expressed
unsubstantiated skepticism, but the results are fairly persuasive and
the time difference is quite substantial. However, I would be
interested to know HOW it works (and my skepticism lingers).
Donga
