Come on, England !!!

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:21:22 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"SD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
<snip>

>>
>> Halfwit.
>> --
>
>Thats a self description i assume.
>

I think he was boasting
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[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:22:36 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
<snip>

>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that intimidates
>> another with their vehicle because they cannot contain their temper
>> should not be driving. This applies especially to professional drivers
>> like truckers.
>>
>
>I dont consider myself professional. I drive trucks. Its a job.
>

So what do you think the definition of "professional" is?

If you are driving as part of your job, then you are a professional
driver. Simple as that.
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[McKev]

"Alex Heney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:22:36 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> <snip>
>
>>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that intimidates
>>> another with their vehicle because they cannot contain their temper
>>> should not be driving. This applies especially to professional drivers
>>> like truckers.
>>>
>>
>>I dont consider myself professional. I drive trucks. Its a job.
>>
>
> So what do you think the definition of "professional" is?
>
> If you are driving as part of your job, then you are a professional
> driver. Simple as that.
> --

I think "professionals" earn a hell of alot more than me. I dont see myself
(with regards to this job) in the same category as, say, an architect or
doctor. Truck driving is a fairly dirty job with some companies and I dont
consider their positions as professional either. I do, however, regard
myself as a professenional printer (if I was working as one). Ive served 2
aprenticships and know the trade inside out.

McK

 

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:20:24 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Alex Heney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:22:36 GMT, "McKev" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that intimidates
>>>> another with their vehicle because they cannot contain their temper
>>>> should not be driving. This applies especially to professional drivers
>>>> like truckers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I dont consider myself professional. I drive trucks. Its a job.
>>>
>>
>> So what do you think the definition of "professional" is?
>>
>> If you are driving as part of your job, then you are a professional
>> driver. Simple as that.
>> --
>
>I think "professionals" earn a hell of alot more than me. I dont see myself
>(with regards to this job) in the same category as, say, an architect or
>doctor.

What you are talking about is members of "the professions".

Which is not the same as doing something "professionally".

All that being a "professional" driver mean is that you get paid for
doing it.


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[Conor]

In article <[email protected]>, says...
> "McKev" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>:
>
> >
> ><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Conor <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >>>And that's why we let you find the mobile speed cameras on your own....
> >>
> >> And truckers aren't immune to that.
> >>
> >> I recently (ish) managed to pull one past a speed camera when he was
> >> having a little temper tantrum and I managed to dive off a side road...
> >> managed to see the flash though.
> >
> >What did you pull? A rabbit from your hat?
>
> I'd pulled out onto a main road from my driveway. The driveway is fairly
> blind due to being situated after a bend. Matey in the truck came
> around the corner after I'd pulled onto the road and made no attempt to
> back off the throttle and decided he'd drive up my **** (it's downhill).
>
Perhaps you should have made an attempt to accelerate?

> I did the only thing reasonable and slowed down to about 30 to teach him
> some manners.
>
So you drove without due consideration for other road users?

Pot kettle black.


--
Conor
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Same ****, Different Day.

 

[Conor]

In article <[email protected]>, Alex Heney
says...

> So what do you think the definition of "professional" is?
>
Depends. There's many with quite a few involving being a member of a
body such as The Law Society or the BMA.

> If you are driving as part of your job, then you are a professional
> driver. Simple as that.
>

--
Conor
Grumpy Old Man
Same ****, Different Day.

 

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Alex Heney <[email protected]> saying
something like:

>All that being a "professional" driver mean is that you get paid for
>doing it.

No it doesn't. Any monkey can be a driver - it's the ones who do it well
and take a pride in their work that can be considered professional at
it, same as any field.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
In my trousers.
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"Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
<[email protected]>:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that intimidates
>> another with their vehicle because they cannot contain their temper
>> should not be driving. This applies especially to professional drivers
>> like truckers.
>>
>
>What about self-centered "stuff you Jack" car drivers?

If you read the post my irritation was because matey flew around a bend
and didn't take his foot off the throttle preferring to try to menace me
into driving faster.

 

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:49:04 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember Alex Heney <[email protected]> saying
>something like:
>
>>All that being a "professional" driver mean is that you get paid for
>>doing it.
>
>No it doesn't. Any monkey can be a driver - it's the ones who do it well
>and take a pride in their work that can be considered professional at
>it, same as any field.

As in any field "professional" means "paid to do it".

There are additional meanings, but that is the most basic meaning of
the word, and it applies to *anybody* being paid to do something.

You cannot say that anybody being paid to drive is not a professional
driver.

You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but that
is a different thing.
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[Brimstone]

In news:[email protected],
[email protected] said:
> "Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that
>>> intimidates another with their vehicle because they cannot contain
>>> their temper should not be driving. This applies especially to
>>> professional drivers like truckers.
>>>
>>
>> What about self-centered "stuff you Jack" car drivers?
>
> If you read the post my irritation was because matey flew around a
> bend and didn't take his foot off the throttle preferring to try to
> menace me into driving faster.

So you felt entitled to intimidate him?

 

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:30:55 +0100, Conor <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Alex Heney
>says...
>
>> So what do you think the definition of "professional" is?
>>
>Depends. There's many with quite a few involving being a member of a
>body such as The Law Society or the BMA.
>

Yes. There are other definitions.

But the most basic definition of "professional", that applies to
*anybody* doing *anything*, is that if you are paid to do it then you
are doing it professionally.

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[Brimstone]

In news:[email protected],
Alex Heney said:

> You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but that
> is a different thing.

What is a "professional manner"?

 

[[email protected]]

"Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
<[email protected]>:

>In news:[email protected],
>[email protected] said:
>> "Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that
>>>> intimidates another with their vehicle because they cannot contain
>>>> their temper should not be driving. This applies especially to
>>>> professional drivers like truckers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about self-centered "stuff you Jack" car drivers?
>>
>> If you read the post my irritation was because matey flew around a
>> bend and didn't take his foot off the throttle preferring to try to
>> menace me into driving faster.
>
>So you felt entitled to intimidate him?

I was driving a small car. He was driving a lorry.

"Oh I'm so intimidated, the small car is going slowly..."

 

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Alex Heney <[email protected]> saying
something like:

>You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but that
>is a different thing.

Granted, but I wouldn't sully the word "professional" by association
with some of the utter loons I've seen driving for a living.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a
In my trousers.
Folding@Home Team UKRM http://www.tinyurl.com/jkxwv

 

[Brimstone]

In news[email protected],
[email protected] said:
> "Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>:
>
>> In news:[email protected],
>> [email protected] said:
>>> "Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>> I think the English is straightforward enough; anyone that
>>>>> intimidates another with their vehicle because they cannot contain
>>>>> their temper should not be driving. This applies especially to
>>>>> professional drivers like truckers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What about self-centered "stuff you Jack" car drivers?
>>>
>>> If you read the post my irritation was because matey flew around a
>>> bend and didn't take his foot off the throttle preferring to try to
>>> menace me into driving faster.
>>
>> So you felt entitled to intimidate him?
>
> I was driving a small car. He was driving a lorry.
>
> "Oh I'm so intimidated, the small car is going slowly..."

Nevertheless, you braked and so caused him to do so in the full knowledge if
he had hit you that he would have been in more trouble than you. That's
intimidation.

 

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:16 +0100, "Brimstone"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In news:[email protected],
>Alex Heney said:
>
>> You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but that
>> is a different thing.
>
>What is a "professional manner"?
>

The manner in which you *hope* a professional would act.
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[Brimstone]

In news:[email protected],
Alex Heney said:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:16 +0100, "Brimstone"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In news:[email protected],
>> Alex Heney said:
>>
>>> You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but
>>> that is a different thing.
>>
>> What is a "professional manner"?
>>
>
> The manner in which you *hope* a professional would act.

Which is?

 

[Bear]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:01:29 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon said ...
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Alex Heney <[email protected]> saying
> something like:
>
> >You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but that
> >is a different thing.
>
> Granted, but I wouldn't sully the word "professional" by association
> with some of the utter loons I've seen driving for a living.

Well no, but "professional" isn't the same thing as "talented" or even
"competent".

ICBW but I've always understood that "professional" merely means one is
paid to do a thing, not that one is necessarily good at it.

<googles>

Ah now, here were are:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional

Says that both meanings can be applied. So, basically, like so many
arguments on UseNet, this one is completely pointless.
--
Bear

 

[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:41:10 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

> "Brimstone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
<snip>

>>> If you read the post my irritation was because matey flew around a
>>> bend and didn't take his foot off the throttle preferring to try to
>>> menace me into driving faster.
>>
>>So you felt entitled to intimidate him?
>
>I was driving a small car. He was driving a lorry.
>
>"Oh I'm so intimidated, the small car is going slowly..."

If you think you were not intimidating him, then for the sake of
everybody else, hand in your driving licence NOW.

The fact that his vehicle would suffer less damage than yours in a
crash does not mean he would want that crash to occur, not that he
would not be scared of it happening.
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[Alex Heney]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:12:08 +0100, "Brimstone"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In news:[email protected],
>Alex Heney said:
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:16 +0100, "Brimstone"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In news:[email protected],
>>> Alex Heney said:
>>>
>>>> You can say they are not driving in a "professional manner", but
>>>> that is a different thing.
>>>
>>> What is a "professional manner"?
>>>
>>
>> The manner in which you *hope* a professional would act.
>
>Which is?
>

You tell me.
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