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Compact cranks and Q factor

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  1. I want to replace my standard road double Shimano 105 crankset (52/42)
    with a compact for light touring. I have tried the Stronglight Impact
    compact double but the Q factor is 11 mm greater (158 mm, previously
    147) than my old 105s and this causes real pain in my left knee. Both
    LH and RH Stronglight cranks curve out further than the 105s and
    neither crank goes on the 107 mm Shimano UN71 BB as far as the old
    ones, exacerbating the problem.

    My questions are: does anyone know if FSA CFJ compact cranks have a Q
    value nearer 147 mm, or are there any other reasonably priced compacts
    out there that would do the job? Note that due to being fairly long
    legged I really need 175 mm cranks. I can't find any info on FSAs
    website on CFJ cranks.

    Also, can I stick with a short rear mech even if I use a 12-25 with the
    50/34 of the FSA chainrings?

    Thanks.

  2. Hallo. I write from Ravenna, Italy, I read this ng for its
    interesting technical contents.

    Quoted message said:

    My questions are: does anyone know if FSA CFJ compact cranks have a Q
    value nearer 147 mm,


    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Also, can I stick with a short rear mech even if I use a 12-25 with the
    50/34 of the FSA chainrings?

    I replaced few weeks ago an Ultegra 2003 crankset with a FSA Energy,
    preserving Shimano Octalink BB I had. Q factor is the same (should be
    143 mm, not 147, AFAIK), and I didn't noticed any difference with
    Ultegra. Just climbing is easyer now :-)

    12-25 should work very well with short-cage rear derailer, I have a
    13-25 and works perfectly. I just replaced chain with a new one 2 links
    shorter.

    Unluckyly, it seems that octalink FSA crankset are out of order, so
    probably you should replace also BB.
    BTW, an FSA Gossamer Compact with MegaEXO BB is reasonably cheap and
    should work for you.

    Cheers.

    --
    Massimo Bacilieri AKA Crononauta
    ICQ:4005815

  3. Hi--
    I was quite concerned about this when I switched a bike to compact from
    Ultegra, especially as the main reason not to use a triple on a backup
    bike is to maintain the same Q-factor.

    As far as I recall, all the FSA doubles were at 147mm, which is exactly
    the Ultegra (and probably all other Shimano road groups) standard.

    The Q-factor feels exactly the same on my Gossamer compact as it does
    on my Ultegra double.

    BTW, they are great, and everyone should use them. I have an XT
    long-cage rear derailleur hooked up to my ultegra shifter, so it's
    50x34 in the front and 11-32 in the back. I'd ideally like to compact
    the rear cluster a bit, a 13-14-15-16-18-21-24-28-32 instead of the
    11-12-14-16... that is standard XT. Range _greater_ than a standard
    triple, with superior front DR performance and narrower Q-factor of a
    double.

    --Shayana kadidal

  4. Quoted message said:

    My questions are: does anyone know if FSA CFJ compact cranks have a Q
    value nearer 147 mm, or are there any other reasonably priced compacts
    out there that would do the job? Note that due to being fairly long
    legged I really need 175 mm cranks. I can't find any info on FSAs
    website on CFJ cranks.

    Also, can I stick with a short rear mech even if I use a 12-25 with the
    50/34 of the FSA chainrings?

    Look for an old crankset 110 like a Sugino V/P, G/P, AT, or Mighty
    Tour. They use a 113 bb as a compact double. The Q is very narrow.
    I know, because I switched from my Mighty Tour to FSA compact, I could
    feel the difference. BTW, I prefer wide Q. FSA chainrings are great.
    You can get their twins on a set of Nashbar compact cranks and throw
    the arms away. The Nashbar ones say 'RPM' instead of "FSA". If you
    are looking at the reverse side of the ring, you can''t tell the
    difference. Booth 7000 series aluminum.

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    Quoted message said:

    I want to replace my standard road double Shimano 105 crankset (52/42)
    with a compact for light touring. I have tried the Stronglight Impact
    compact double but the Q factor is 11 mm greater (158 mm, previously
    147) than my old 105s and this causes real pain in my left knee. Both
    LH and RH Stronglight cranks curve out further than the 105s and
    neither crank goes on the 107 mm Shimano UN71 BB as far as the old
    ones, exacerbating the problem.

    _ You might just need a different BB. It sounds like the Impact
    cranks need a Campy or ISO taper. Measure the chainline on your
    current setup, if it's not somewhere near 43mm, then you might
    be able to solve the problem with the correct BB.

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ca-m.html

    _ Phil Wood makes ISO taper BBS in 102 and 110 widths.

    _ Booker C. Bense

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